Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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He lost the Chinese market, where the CCP doesn't want him anyway because Starlink would bypass The Great Firewall.
It's truly over, Elonbros.
Yeah it totally has nothing to do with his gigafactory in Shanghai or anything. Why would Elon protect his investments when he can do the American thing and sacrifice everything he accomplished just so Ukrainians can have gay parades in Kiev?

Riddle me this, if Ukraine is winning, why is Zelensky begging NATO to launch a first nuclear strike at Russia? Isn't that, just like, admitting defeat? At least according to some gigabrains here.
 
...then a series of tactical nukes turn all the Ukrainian troops and NATO mercenaries to ashes. A strong wind blows them into Poland. NATO sends their condolences. Game over, would you like to try again?


Both the US side and the Russian side have clearly indicated that nukes are very much on the table, so I don't see why people are like "oh it will never happen."


If nukes are involved, then the whole world will suffer and this discussion will become obsolete

If nukes arent involved, Ukraine will probably win. The trend is very much in their favor

Lets just hope Russia will choose the more reasonable path
 
@teriyakiburns

No one except the US lost anything from the energy arrangement, and that was because the EU wasn't buying overpriced LNG in favor of cheap and accessible Russian gas. From an American perspective the entire war is great on that front because LNG is now competitive. It's also good for the great democrats in Azerbaijan who can fill the gap that we created by ditching Russian deliveries and sell us what'll in part still be Russian gas with an extra fee attached. This will not wean anyone on the continent from green energy fantasies nor wean them from gas if you happen to be a green energy sperg, it'll just spike the prices and make a great many businesses non-functional. Russia and the European countries both won from the arrangement, the US didn't. If you're American, you've no reason not to back what's gone on, if you are in Europe and back it you're a retard or a Balt/Pole, but I repeat myself.
 
If nukes are involved, then the whole world will suffer and this discussion will become obsolete

If nukes arent involved, Ukraine will probably win. The trend is very much in their favor

Lets just hope Russia will choose the more reasonable path
Where is that certainty coming from? NATO will do nothing as long as no NATO members are attacked. Both NATO and the US specifically have repeatedly stated they will not get involved directly, even if Russia uses a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine.

Also, lol:
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Malcom Nance living in your head rent free. By Allah you people are dogs, I will go on as usual.
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There you go, recently-killed Amermutts fighting for Ukraine. Footage taken from a GoPro taken off a dead Ukrainian soldier. Note the characteristic American lips and nose.
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Malcom Nance living in your head rent free. By Allah you people are dogs, I will go on as usual.
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I take the rebel flag over this


They should ask Comcast or Verizon, im sure they rather dig fiber optic cables to the ukrainian front than the west north central states
 
I take the rebel flag over this
It's the Novorossiya flag.
There you go, recently-killed Amermutts fighting for Ukraine. Footage taken from a GoPro taken off a dead Ukrainian soldier. Note the characteristic American lips and nose.
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Not a mercenary. Cope, seethe, dilate, etc.
 
The same base rate pay any Ukrainian gets. For all intents and purposes, they are Ukrainian soldiers.
Just like green card holders can serve in the US armed forces and count as American soldiers even if they have no US naturalization.
So he does it for pay, got it.

Mercenary:
noun
  1. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

Anything else?
 
So he does it for pay, got it.

Mercenary:
noun
  1. a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army.

Anything else?
Protocol I Article 47 of the Geneva Convention -- Mercenaries
2. A mercenary is any person who:

(a) is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;

(b) does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;

(c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;

(d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;

(e) is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict; and

(f) has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.
French Foreign Legion are not mercenaries.
Gurkha soldiers in the British Army are not mercenaries.
And foreign volunteers in Ukraine are not mercenaries.
They are paid the same as Ukrainian soldiers. They are members of the armed forces of Ukraine. Those two points disqualify them from the legal definition of mercenary.
Nice try at using a colloquial definition which carries no weight, though.
 
Protocol I Article 47 of the Geneva Convention -- Mercenaries

French Foreign Legion are not mercenaries.
Gurkha soldiers in the British Army are not mercenaries.
And foreign volunteers in Ukraine are not mercenaries.
They are paid the same as Ukrainian soldiers. They are members of the armed forces of Ukraine. Those two points disqualify them from the legal definition of mercenary.
Nice try at using a colloquial definition which carries no weight, though.
When they get executed as mercenaries, I'm sure that your attempts at redefining the term will be of great relief to them.

Also, what makes you think they are not receiving additional compensation? They're clearly being sponsored by NATO, in addition to getting money from Ukraine.
 
It's a common characteristic of post-USSR meme states like it who's entire infrastructure was constructed in the period from 1945 to 1989 and have done nothing but melt away both industrially and population-wise since their independence but still think it's everyone else who fucked them.
Funny, your description perfectly captures russia :story:
 
When they get executed as mercenaries, I'm sure that your attempts at redefining the term will be of great relief to them.

Also, what makes you think they are not receiving additional compensation? They're clearly being sponsored by NATO, in addition to getting money from Ukraine.
At this point, when both sides are heavily making use of mercenaries, and always have have use of unofficial fighters when it came to proxy wars in one form or another it leads to the question of why should I care.

It's why I don't give a shit about them, because getting ass twisted about it nearly always leads to hypocrisy because nearly everyone is only pointing to the mercs fighting for Russia or the mercs fighting for Ukraine.
 
At this point, when both sides are heavily making use of mercenaries, and always have have use of unofficial fighters when it came to proxy wars in one form or another it leads to the question of why should I care.

It's why I don't give a shit about them, because getting ass twisted about it nearly always leads to hypocrisy because nearly everyone is only pointing to the mercs fighting for Russia or the mercs fighting for Ukraine.
My point was simply that yes, there are NATO mercenaries in Ukraine. Ranging from organized mercenary groups like Forward Observation Group and Academi, to various freelancers like that American-looking fellow I posted above.

Calling them "volunteers" doesn't change the fact that they are mercenaries and will be treated as such.
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As long as Russia occupies parts of Ukraine, nobody should give a flying fuck that some Westerners went to help.
You invade and start a war, you'll face the repercussions. Stop crying that you're a fucking victim, stop seething and coping, and play your cards, nobody cares about narratives besides some low IQ dumbfucks, what matters is removal of invading force and returning peace to the lands.
Muh mercenaries. Who the fuck cares.
Muh NATO weapons. Who the fuck cares.
Russia really thought it could start shit up in another country, try to invade its capital city, and there would be no international serious opposition?
LMAO
 
Funny, your description perfectly captures russia :story:
Amerimutts talking out of their ass again. Have you ever been to Russia? Most big cities are well developed, even cities like Vladivostok all the way in the east. Medium sized cities with a population of 10k+ are nowadays closer to medium sized central european cities when it comes to infrastructure. And yes, every city in every country run down and poorer neighborhoods. Americans should know.


One thing too, buildings in Europe and Russia are actually built to last, made of concrete and bricks and not just drywall and plywood like in the US. Of course its easier to plonk down a suburb made from cheap materials compared to houses made from bricks, concrete and materials that last generations.

As long as Russia occupies parts of Ukraine, nobody should give a flying fuck that some Westerners went to help.
You invade and start a war, you'll face the repercussions. Stop crying that you're a fucking victim, stop seething and coping, and play your cards, nobody cares about narratives besides some low IQ dumbfucks, what matters is removal of invading force and returning peace to the lands.
Muh mercenaries. Who the fuck cares.
Muh NATO weapons. Who the fuck cares.
Russia really thought it could start shit up in another country, try to invade its capital city, and there would be no international serious opposition?
LMAO
Who opposed the US when they Invaded country after country? Where were the EU sanctions on the US when they violated other countries borders and violated their sovereignty? Where were EU countries confiscating houses, planes and yachts from US billionaires when the US commited war crimes in other countries and stole their resources? Why are people such hypocrite cucks with no morals that they now clutch their pearls? You people are legit clowns that can't be taken serious.
 
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As long as Russia occupies parts of Ukraine, nobody should give a flying fuck that some Westerners went to help.
You invade and start a war, you'll face the repercussions. Stop crying that you're a fucking victim, stop seething and coping, and play your cards, nobody cares about narratives besides some low IQ dumbfucks, what matters is removal of invading force and returning peace to the lands.
Muh mercenaries. Who the fuck cares.
Muh NATO weapons. Who the fuck cares.
Russia really thought it could start shit up in another country, try to invade its capital city, and there would be no international serious opposition?
LMAO
NATO really thought it could start shit up in another country, overthrow its leaders, and there would be no international serious opposition? History did not start in February of 2022, you know.
 
NATO really thought it could start shit up in another country, overthrow its leaders, and there would be no international serious opposition? History did not start in February of 2022, you know.
Always the same crap.
NATO has expanded. Americans do sponsor regime changes and intervene, sometimes in a really retarded manner.
Most of the time, the expansionism is offering at least some protections and trade agreements. Smaller states CANNOT defend themselves without significant outside help, so obviously they need to bend the knee somewhere.
And most Europeans choose America, for obvious reasons.
Again, play your own cards already and stop seething. Let's see where this goes, it's war, everyone acknowledges it, let's hope cards don't include nuclear chimpout, and let's see who wins.
 
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