Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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detrans women are the biggest lolcows
it just shows you how women are incapable of taking any amount of accountability for their own mistakes
Lurk more lol. There's plenty of "I made an appointment, broadcast it to the world, ignored the warnings and photos and poor surgical reviews and my crying wife and angry family, and at the last minute my own doubts and the voice inside yelling me to STOP, DONT DO IT, and then: I cut my entire dick off.
How could this happen to me?? Why didn't someone do something????"
If you see more girls whining about it, that's because there's a higher number of stupid women with zippertits who are more visible online than retarded autogynephiles who got the chop.
 
I'm planning on making a lolcow thread on detransitioners and their main subreddit. Any help or suggestions are accepted.
You could include the links/examples I've provided or just quote mine and larry david's comments on the thing wholesale here, here and here, they're a good springboard/introduction to what's wrong with r/detrans to help anyone jump into the discussion.
 
To further drive the point home of how bug fuck nonsense SRS procedures are in current year... Let's use the power of positive thinking and working with them to prove them wrong for once. And a criminal amount of sperging, just a wretched sum of it.

Let's not use harsh current scenarios or averages, let's be generous for once and assume the best possible outcome in all cases. But still grounded in what is currently possible. What does a troon have to look forward to for SRS surgery if they meet someone who mastered the craft with current year tech? Like skies the limit and they have access to every possible advantage. No matter how thin the margin of actually finding the hypothetical SRS surgeon who has all these backgrounds and traits realistically is.

Let's say money is no object, you somehow have a blank check for your procedure. You meet a wonder surgeon, a master of their craft. A person who can vet and match skin tones and grafts with such grace and expertise that you can't even find a seam or a scar in the end result, and has unparalleled wound care teams and an in hospital full suited lab that'd make academics blush. An outright miracle worker of their time. They can even do fine tune micro surgery for nerve routing and repairing. And they have been supplied early life or even from birth stem cells from the exact person they are working on and are top of their field with this research and applications and have a special FDA "Do what you want" clearance in terms of allowance to use and apply all this.

(Remember, stem cells are not magic. Every story of "We grew X bodypart with them!" past the clickbait headline shows that they still had harvested at least some material for the grown part from an original part and used a biological scaffolding. IE: An "ear" grown in a lab is just skin grafted onto a cartilage shape grown from a growing medium frame and the frame is directly seeded with cartilage cells. The stem cells at best are just a booster/bonus to help it all along. In a majority of cases it always needs a growing frame and medium to begin with, you can't make something from oops all stem cells necessarily. And there's a narrow band of what cells taken from someone can do and sex DOES dictate what is and isn't possible and influences the end result IE: It's highly unlikely you can take stem cells from a fetal state male and grow vaginal tissues. And graft VS host complications RISE with a mismatch of donor to recipient sex. )
https://genderedinnovations.stanford.edu/case-studies/stem_cells.html

We know shaping existing flesh into a faux vagina just simply doesn't work well. What about using this man's expertise to grow your own DIY Real and true vagina (or dick if FTM)?

Well- a very important snippet from the article.

"A week later, the team created a cavity in the body and surgically attached the vaginal implants to existing reproductive organs."
meaning this was the internal structure only

And an important distinction clarified in a secondary article.

The women in the study weren't just smooth barbie dolls. They had the outside anatomy and a majority of the proper parts, It just lacked or had a very poor connection to their existing plumbing as it were.

"The four women had undeveloped vaginas because they all have a severe form of a condition called Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser Syndrome (MRKH), which affects about 1 in 5000 women. They also had some abnormal development of the uterus, although they did have a vulva – the external part of the sex organ which includes the labia and the clitoris."

IE: This is what it looks like if you have this condition, (Resized for the sake of our brothers and sisters phone-posting and to make it less of a fucking nightmare for the already terrible formatting I'm doing.)
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It is less "WE GREW A WHOLE VAGINA" and largely just growing the finer more nagging tissues and supporting and helping along the existing anatomy for whatever they can't modify in the existing structures, and I mean quite literally just modifying the existing anatomy and not outrageously putting entirely new bits and pieces in wholesale.

Medical articles aimed at the average layperson tend to be far more flowery and optimistic and grandiose because it's more exciting and grant and donation money enticing and enthusiasm building than the dry less impressive facts of the matter, and typically the people actually involved had nothing to do with talking to the press or being the face of the operation.

With bonus upsetting "transphobia" if it were used in any other context.

"Currently it is possible to surgically create vaginas using grafts from either intestinal or skin tissue, but these can lead to severe complications. Skin cell grafts do not provide lubrication which causes pain during sex, and can thicken to the point where the vagina closes. Intestinal cells secrete mucus constantly, which is unhygienic and causes an unpleasant odour. Using the women’s own cells from the vulva gets around these issues."

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So we come to the conclusion part of our positive thinking exercise and giving every advantage within realistic possibility of modern medical science that assumes you have infinite money, meeting one of the best surgeons and possibly the top of their field human based biological researchers in the world. And you get the utmost peak ceiling of our current scientific advancement and consideration and care with ABSOLUTELY no rejections or complications or error during a series of procedures. What are you looking forward to?

Note: I am going to go revoltingly into detail in parts, I am also not citing (As there are ZERO successful real world citations for actual transplants of genitals across the sexes, only for matching sex as of this moment) mentioning nor entertaining cross sex transplantation of genitals or anatomy wholesale from deceased donors because it's so outside the realm of consideration or possibility even the biggest quack wouldn't try it. The only citation of it being attempted and not pure conjecture is a solitary cosmetic surgeon from fucking India in 2022 and it's merely "Talk" of it that went radio silent one month after it was mentioned.

You still have no way to have your own flesh matching labia or properly formed and feeling vulva, nor uterus or ovaries or canals or associated nerves and sensory tissue still as a MTF. These things are already impossible to grow or regrow in full and entirety as of now from a biological woman's stem cells even taken from birth or fetal stage. Much less a male donor wanting to transition.

Flip flop the wording around for FTM and same deal. You can't grow entire penises, testicles, prostates and all proper anatomical features to have them be viable and working in bulk either.

As a FTM MAYBE, You can have a scrotum, maybe. But lacking the male stem cell derived features of the twin sets of muscle fibres and layers in and below the flesh. And only able to be "filled" with fake aesthetically implanted testicles like they make for testicular cancer survivors.

As a MTF You will have a diminished sensation divot or narrow muscle lined canal in your pelvis that leads to a dead end nowhere more like a sleeve or pocket than an orifice proper, closer to a belly button in anatomy. And internal anatomy WILL have to be fucked with further to make space for it to have any depth. There isn't anything to "connect" it to without closing it off and not leave an open wound in your body and there's no way to make anything even remotely uterine in nature.
That and or if you want authenticity more than "Deep belly button sheathed with muscle" it will be have to still lined with a thin layer of connected lab grown intestinal cells leading to the previous issue of constantly being mucous-y, malodorous and you will have to manually deep clean yourself and be more prone to infection yet still. You're a male cell donor- You have fuck all success rate of growing vaginal wall lining from your samples.

At BEST as a MTF you will have a simplified vulva simulacrum leading to it all with "Best match" substitutions of stem cell assisted grafts or grown tissues matching your outer most skin. That still don't have the same sensations, visuals, muscle fibers or associated specialized nerves. Ditto if you want a clit with a non functional aesthetic hood. It will be a small nub of what remains of your penile tissue grafted over.

You also have to decide how much sensation you want to have internally as you have to play sophie's choice with the limited amount of existing nerve connections between your neovagina and neoclit made from the last scraps of your penile tissue. We can "Extend" nerves potentially. We can't wire up new ones to say the least.

For FTMs? You could have something resembling a penis purely on a cursory glance aesthetic front, It will functionally just be a reskinned quite literally mega clit in it's internal structure and nervous and veinous construction with stretched to fit scaffolded nerves, sure you might be able to pee out of it semi reliably as an improvement over current phallopasty but that's the extent of your use you'll get.

As a FTM you will still not have the proper associated tissues and functions nor be accurate down to the way it hangs, rests, feels and more. You were born biologically female- Your own stem cells all but can't be used to seed the specialized tissues.
You COULD have clitoral erectile tissue added but it absolutely will not be close still. It will still not entirely shape match due to limitations, It will have no true corpus spongiosum and corpus cavernosum which are male specialized tissues you can't pull from your own cell stock with reliability.

As a FTM you still could not physically have foreskin as we can't even stem cell regenerate foreskin in natural born males. "No human foreskin has ever been regenerated by medical science," still holds true. So either you will have an odd, over sensitive wrong looking and feeling clit hood foreskin, or look like you are vat grown smooth and never had one. Either way? It will be obvious.
And regardless of how painstaking and careful they are to move around nerves and blood vessels from your original genitals. Even if they were being oh so careful and extending your clitoral nerves with matching stem cells and scaffold grown sets there's no guarantee it'll take or feel fully- And erections are a coin flip entirely even with all the hypothetical talent and ability at play here.

If it were possible to feasibly rebuild and repair male genitals to restore or grant the ability to achieve erection with reliability with good results even with experimental procedures? We wouldn't even be entertaining the ideas of stupid manual pumps either external or internal for injured, deformed or aging natural born men now fucking would we?


TL;DR: As of this very date and moment assuming the absolute peak of current surgical skill and medical science and flawless self care, the truth remains whether FTM or MTF.

You STILL would have your natural born sex markers, sex variations in every single cell and organ, skeletal structure, brain structure, muscle density, and more.
You STILL couldn't pass once the pants are off in a lit room against anyone who didn't fall asleep in sex ed.
You STILL would not have functional internal reproductive anatomy.
You STILL would be unable to produce cross sex hormones in your own body
You STILL have to continue to undergo HRT treatments and take the associated drugs.
You STILL would never be a real woman if you were born a man, nor a real man if you were born a woman.
 
The flippancy of these people and their cheerleaders towards a major surgery in some of the most sensitive areas of the body is just ludicrous. It’s even worse with the phallos because they constantly have a reminder on their arms of what they’ll never have again: a functioning sex organ. No wonder so many of these people end up killing themselves.
 
The flippancy of these people and their cheerleaders towards a major surgery in some of the most sensitive areas of the body is just ludicrous.
Since they hate their genitals, they want to destroy & reshape them. That these body parts are sensitive & vulnerable doesn't matter to them. They are only concerned with the srs result and that's just a fantasy anyway because they will never get the genitals of the opposite sex.
 
The flippancy of these people and their cheerleaders towards a major surgery in some of the most sensitive areas of the body is just ludicrous. It’s even worse with the phallos because they constantly have a reminder on their arms of what they’ll never have again: a functioning sex organ. No wonder so many of these people end up killing themselves.
The Rotdogs in some way are more ridiculous than the Stinkditches.
I don't think they're as gross maybe, because its just a fucking comical looking rolled up tube of skin and fat as opposed to a fucking extra deep belly button made from colon and ball sack filled with hairballs and pus, but they're far fucking stupider looking
Amholes are just vile, the Rotdogs are fucking comically dumb.
I can't for the life of me imagine how fucking insane someone would have to be to want that. :story:its not even like it looks or functions like a real dick, they're just so fucking stupid.
At least Rot pocket carriers could maybe find a chaser degenerate enough to try and fuck one, if they're not bothered about the chance of it busting open right through to their asshole, what the fuck is even the point in an arm cock?
 
Was scrolling through r/TopSurgery and found a newly mutilated 15 year old.
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Diagnosed, put on Testosterone and mutilated all in a 12-24 month span.

Surgeon - Dr. Joseph M. Serletti
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He specializes in butchering young girls and botching cancer victims from what I can tell on google results. Lots of social media buzz about him.

He's on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joseph_serletti/?hl=en
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joseph.serletti

https://www.med.upenn.edu/apps/faculty/index.php/g275/p5442937 (archive)

Contact Information
Division of Plastic Surgery
University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
South Pavilion, 14th Floor
3400 Spruce Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104-4283
Office: (215) 360-0645
Fax: (215) 615-3397
Email: joseph.serletti@uphs.upenn.edu

Home:
129 Cherry Ln
Wynnewood, PA 19096
 
She could easily grow her hair out and dress like an adult woman instead of an 8 year old boy and even if her voice is deep and she has body hair, people would just think "oh she must be Greek" or something and let it go without a question.

But ewwww long hair is what gross brainless cumdumpster/dickrider STACEYS do amirite? And she is NOT like those other girls.

NOT a coincidence that they catapult directly into radfemmery from their troon experimentation.
For real, I don't think she even would need to grow her hair out, just adult clothing in her size would be enough. It's so obvious that all of these troons, detransitioned or not, have body dysmorphia one way or another.
 
FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
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Isn't body dysmorphia just good old low self-esteem?
Not really, you can have genuine reasons to be dysmorphic, like obesity and various other genetic mishaps or accidents. There are plenty of people that drew a rather short straw in life and have severe difficulties finding affection and partners, but the answer will never be inceldom, suicides or amputating things you dislike.
 
FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
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Not really, you can have genuine reasons to be dysmorphic, like obesity and various other genetic mishaps or accidents. There are plenty of people that drew a rather short straw in life and have severe difficulties finding affection and partners, but the answer will never be inceldom, suicides or amputating things you dislike.
She says she is "too far gone" to detransition and is getting hugboxed by stupid women for this "brave honesty yada yada." (archive)

The baldness is unfortunate (lol) but she could shave it off and wear a wig- women with health conditions and even ultra orthodox Jewish housewives do this all the time and it is not any kind of big deal.

She'd also look less like George Costanza if she swapped out the dork glasses for something more current and dressed like, you know, a woman.

Here's some actual brave truth telling:

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People like this bald weirdo want it both ways. They realize they are fucking themselves up beyond repair with the trooning "medicine." But they detest the idea of trying to be a "normie" and will fight it with all they have.
 
FtM and half a decade of likely irreversible damage, one QT observes that this is going in debt to look like what makes most males desperate to avoid, an out of shape balding manlet.
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Not really, you can have genuine reasons to be dysmorphic, like obesity and various other genetic mishaps or accidents. There are plenty of people that drew a rather short straw in life and have severe difficulties finding affection and partners, but the answer will never be inceldom, suicides or amputating things you dislike.
This is fucking awful, and I bet, completely useless, as her face probably gives it away, anyway. They fuck with their hormones, grow pube beards and lose their hair, only to look like a balding PCOS beard chick.
 
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