Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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Feline Supremacist said:
Kurwachen, I worry about your brain after you've inhaled all those toilet cleaners. Also my condolences on the shit ton of Polish mercs the Kalibr took out the other night. Remember, you don't trigger Article 5 if you start shit first.
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Imagine believing any of this shit :story:

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UVB-76 said:
Lukashenko is coming up with all sort of excuses to not send troops into Ukraine lmao
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Pimpleking55 said:
Nah i don't care for either in the sense that every casualty is a tragic loss of life, for the Russian and the Ukrainian people both, my personal opinion however is that Russia is in the right. What i am happy about however that maybe Putin stopped caring about his image in the international community and realized he is damned if he don't and damned if he do, even if he would bow down, retreat and surrender. Russia would be run over by the liberal democrats and turned into a western society where hedonism and consumerism runs rampant like the USA. Our Dutch government(run by liberal democrats) is ignoring every form of diplomacy and keep warmongering screaming that this is our war too and our economy collapsing is a small sacrifice to pay for the "freedom" of Ukraine while sending weapons and euro's in a time we are getting run over by African refugee's and soaring inflation thus throwing our own people into suicide and poverty.....fuck globalism.
So every cruise missile hitting the Ukrainians however tragic is a middle finger to the Nato and the USA and a shit post against idiocracy, Ukraine have only themselves to blame for selling out to the western idiots instead of staying a sovereign nation and abiding to the democratic referendum. What do you think what happens if Ukraine would win??, they get the bill for all the foreign aid and have no say no more about their own nation whatsoever. Blackrock has already bought farmland and gasfields in Ukraine so they are fucked anyhow but at least with Russia there is a chance of independence in the near future.

Babushka loves Putin and babuska is always right.
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For russians is less about the whole "western degeneracy" and more about not going back to the 90's. For many of us those were some good times but for russians it was a catastrophe, and I'm not exaggerating there. Just look at the census data and there's a massive spike in infant mortality, quality of life and average lifespan took a nosedive, and there was a ridiculous almost wartime-scale population drop.

While this was happening us, the west, were praising russia for not being commies anymore, yeltsin was the darling of the foreign press, and oligarchs were completely out of control with corruption being even worse than it is now.

So in the mind of the average russian the return to westernization means the return of the really really bad times.
76LD910 said:
Well for a start Moscow isn't the entirety of Russia, considering the effort they've been willing to put in for Ukrainian territory they probably aren't going to risk them or even "proper" Russian territory like Belgorod or Kirst being dusted with fallout. To say nothing of the fact the front line are currently well within all four of the newly annexed territories borders, the capital city of one is still only a few miles away from the 2014 lines and another was never reached at all by the Russian's initial push.

So tactical nukes used in anything less than strategic manner would be of little use and at that point the entire stated objective of the war is lost because the land and people they're fighting for will be fucked.

Building on that, using nukes to the extent it would have a legitimate effect on the outcome of the war (i.e. strategically, regardless of the yields) or even potentially much less would likely result in a conventional military response from the west that would thoroughly destroy Russia's conventional warmaking abilities and leave them in a position to choose continuing a fight they cant win or further escalating with nukes against nations that could hit back in kind.

Aside from the potential severity of a western response, any use of nukes at all in a war of conquest against a non-nuclear power would immediately put them on the shit list every other nation that even slightly matters, including all their so called allies and in particular China and Iran. Japan, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia and other gulf Arab nations are at most a few months away from either producing warheads themselves or buying them from allies, the non-proliferation treaty would die the moment Russia uses nukes under these circumstances.
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Moscow is russia, the degree of centralization was already high in the cold war, now its so that while moscow almost looks like a first world capital the moment you drive outside it all looks like "nigeria with snow" as some say. Most of the AA/ABM defenses are in moscow, same with fallout shelters. SAC concentrated most of its nukes in the moscow area for a decapitation attack which is why the soviets build the perimeter system, which was never taken offline, so that as a soviet general said "even if the shelters failed and we are dead there will be revenge".

If there's a nuclear attack it will most likely be over kiev or somewhere in western ukraine, single-digit megaton warhead in a shock&awe display to "show who's boss". As such most if not all of the fallout will fall in ukraine, and some might make it further west like it happened with chernobyl.

Now and here's when shit gets real: back in the cold war many game theorists said that there was the possibility that if the soviets launched their nukes towards non-nuclear nato allies the nuclear powers (we, the brits and the french) would refrain from shooting back because the moment they launch a missile the next volley would go to them, meaning they have to choose between standing for their allies or their population. Then after 1991 declassified warsaw pact docs showed that indeed the soviet command was planning to nuke every european country but the uk and france to create this scenario. And in this case the country being nuked would be a non-nato non-eu country where's there is not even a written compromise to protect. So on top of all the existing discontent among europeans you would have to tell them they have to die because now we have to nuke the russians back, because freedom, see the problem?

The soviets were far less careful with their nukes that we were which is why there where hundreds of warheads stationed in ukraine, kazakhstan and others vassals. We care about proliferation way more than the russians ever did, letting japan and taiwan get nukes while the right choice in the long term would be a huge political issue right now which is likely to get shot down. That without considering the political opposition within japan for historical reasons and the fact that china is very likely to launch an all-out invasion of taiwan to prevent this and that could very well trigger WWIII. And there's no way israel will let the saudies get the bomb, they are still wahabists who even ban jews from entering the country.

Overall the whole situation its FUBAR and the best course of action would be calling for talks now that we have the upper hand so we can get concessions from the russians that they wouldnt even consider a few months ago.
 
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I was thinking it was a dangerous thing to be within 100km of the front; lest an errant anything hit the house or otherwise.

The front moves, obviously. Like today in Kiev.

That said, probably the safest place to host this site tho. Can anyone crowdfund a protest by Keffals in front of the Datacenter, while the cruisy missiles are flying?
 
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dunn why I can't reply to that post but

cybertoaster said:
Now and here's when shit gets real: back in the cold war many game theorists said that there was the possibility that if the soviets launched their nukes towards non-nuclear nato allies the nuclear powers (we, the brits and the french) would refrain from shooting back because the moment they launch a missile the next volley would go to them, meaning they have to choose between standing for their allies or their population. Then after 1991 declassified warsaw pact docs showed that indeed the soviet command was planning to nuke every european country but the uk and france to create this scenario. And in this case the country being nuked would be a non-nato non-eu country where's there is not even a written compromise to protect. So on top of all the existing discontent among europeans you would have to tell them they have to die because now we have to nuke the russians back, because freedom, see the problem?
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why has NATO been expanding after 1991? trully a mystery, must be NWO anglo jew reptilians forcing the countries to join it, and not those countries knowing exactly this scenario was planned and begging NATO for protection
 
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potato fan said:
dunn why I can't reply to that post but



why has NATO been expanding after 1991? trully a mystery, must be NWO anglo jew reptilians forcing the countries to join it, and not those countries knowing exactly this scenario was planned and begging NATO for protection
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I dislike Globalism's excesses just like you but Russia is also reason enough for NATO to exist
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Did your daddy give you a good dicking again last night while shouting I LOVE PUTIN? Is that why you're so salty today? Tell him to use lube next time.
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No, i am salty because Putin is shelling civilians again, I know hard for me not to be onboard with killing random civilians and masses like you fake Russians.
 
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FatalTater said:
Russians messing with American airports, or does someone want us to think Russians are messing with American airports? I can't tell anymore.

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Russian hackers suspected over cyber attack on US airports

Websites for LaGuardia and Chicago O’Hare were targeted
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I'll be real with you as somebody who made regular flights all over the country in the US airports are already such a mess that I doubt anybody could tell the difference either way.
 
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