Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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No, i am salty because Putin is shelling civilians again, I know hard for me not to be onboard with killing random civilians and masses like you fake Russians.
Those civilians need to evacuate then, or they get what they get. War isn't very pretty is it. People die. Bad stuff happens. You're not a better or more moral person because you condemn one side on only one metric. "Those poor civilians! We should never have war because civilians will die." I'm so sure the biolabs and other blatant Ukrainian corruption had absolutely no negative impact on any civilian, ever.
 
Those civilians need to evacuate then, or they get what they get. War isn't very pretty is it. People die. Bad stuff happens. You're not a better or more moral person because you condemn one side on only one metric. "Those poor civilians! We should never have war because civilians will die." I'm so sure the biolabs and other blatant Ukrainian corruption had absolutely no negative impact on any civilian, ever.
There's a smidge of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and collateral.

That being said idk which is occurring atm and I didn't see it mentioned in the last several pages. Can I get a tldr on why people are freaking out over Russia shelling shit today?
 
There's a smidge of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and collateral.
Not so. Biolabs are responsible for every covid death, which were all civilians killed by biowarfare, by their own leaders, on purpose, in peacetime. It's not collateral; rather a job well done.
That being said idk which is occurring atm and I didn't see it mentioned in the last several pages. Can I get a tldr on why people are freaking out over Russia shelling shit today?
I just assume shelling is happening all the time, and so I don't care. I resent the modicum of government Ukraine has for soaking up resources to protect blatant corruption. I legit do not care. The sooner they string up Zelensky the happier I am.
 
There's a smidge of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and collateral.

That being said idk which is occurring atm and I didn't see it mentioned in the last several pages. Can I get a tldr on why people are freaking out over Russia shelling shit today?
Russia does literally anything: golems outrage.
Simple as that.
Pigs need more shelling after they organized a literal terrorist attack at Crimean Bridge.
 
There's a smidge of difference between intentionally targeting civilians and collateral.

That being said idk which is occurring atm and I didn't see it mentioned in the last several pages. Can I get a tldr on why people are freaking out over Russia shelling shit today?
Basically the Ukrainians attacked the Kerch bridge an essential supply route from Russia to Crimea and Putin got really mad about it so he started to send missile strikes and suicide drone strikes into civilian zones outside of the battle zone. It caused some infrastructural damage and a few dozen deaths. They had been doing this kind of thing for months but ratcheted up the intensity. Fortunately they did not target the Ukrainian military installments and focused the attack to I guess cause terror in cities.
 
Why can no one ... fucking no one ... doing amateur coverage like this ever manage to look at the fucking camera lens instead of the screen when they insist on including themselves in the shot? Why is this faggot in the shot in the first place? There's a fucking dead body right there! That seems like it'd be the more important subject for the camera in that situation.
 
That being said idk which is occurring atm and I didn't see it mentioned in the last several pages. Can I get a tldr on why people are freaking out over Russia shelling shit today?
Kiev was targeted, which is where journos are.
Also the targets were kind of nonsensical like public parks, Samsung HQ, German consulate where they handle visas, etc.
 
Basically the Ukrainians attacked the Kerch bridge an essential supply route from Russia to Crimea and Putin got really mad about it so he started to send missile strikes and suicide drone strikes into civilian zones outside of the battle zone. It caused some infrastructural damage and a few dozen deaths. They had been doing this kind of thing for months but ratcheted up the intensity. Fortunately they did not target the Ukrainian military installments and focused the attack to I guess cause terror in cities.
No, surely not a few dozen! Oh the humanity. Boo hoo
 
Basically the Ukrainians attacked the Kerch bridge an essential supply route from Russia to Crimea and Putin got really mad about it so he started to send missile strikes and suicide drone strikes into civilian zones outside of the battle zone. It caused some infrastructural damage and a few dozen deaths. They had been doing this kind of thing for months but ratcheted up the intensity. Fortunately they did not target the Ukrainian military installments and focused the attack to I guess cause terror in cities.
Not at all what happened, but try again. Missile strikes on strategic targets where Ukraine has been caught intentionally moving civilians to to generate war crime publicity, civilians that they forbade by military force from evacuating despite Russia's offers of it; yes, civilians are gonna die, but it's not Putin's fault. The Ukrainian government doesn't seem to see its people as anything more than resources to be expended, or fodder to be used so the press can call Russia evil. Any death in war is tragic, but those civilians wouldn't die if Ukraine didn't deliberately put them in a position to die.
 
If they were actually aiding the Russia invasion or illegal annexations, it is completely justified to execute them as traitors. Up to 105,000 people who collaborated with the Nazis and Vichy regime in France were summarily executed during and after the Liberation.

EDIT: Note that this doesn't include people who just cooperated with the occupation out of necessity but didn't outright aid it, for example a police officer who continued to serve on the force, or doctors in the hospital, utility workers, etc. In some cases they might face charges depending on the circumstances but execution would be nothing more than murder.

To be honest Russia's level of sheer savagery is closer to the conduct of Japan in the Sino-Japanese war than the German occupation of France so it's even more egregious to collaborate.
The statistic of 105,000 were specifically the ones committed extrajudicially, as claimed by Adrien Tixier and promoted by an article in the American Mercury, numbers which have since been dropped down to an approximate 9,000 (or occasionally 30-40,000 depending on the source). Likewise, French sources directly contradict your edit by including victims of the so-called Épuration who were forced to continue their work out of necessity or to simply survive, victims which include not only the aforementioned doctors, police officers, or utility workers, but notably also women who refused to leave their German husbands they may have married or prostitutes who either continued their work or took up service under occupiers under roles such as maids or seamstresses. It should also be noted that the "purification" of collaborators is to this day a very controversial topic among the French for those reasons stated above and more (including accounts that a portion claims of collaboration were made to extrajudicially handle personal feuds); it is hardly considered "completely justified" and to claim otherwise is a deliberate distortion of the reality and later opinion of the period.

While all that is said, the subsequent legal trials of collaborators (The accepted manner internationally and by the public), saw about 300,000 claims or cases, of which only 2/5 actually were considered trial-worthy (127,000), and only 1,500 of which saw the death penalty and were executed, the other 97,000 convicted being sentenced to various other punishments such as time-limited "National indignity" (stripping of rights, up to and including seizure of property and expulsion from the country; many accused individuals were tried simply on the grounds of membership to certain parties or groups), permanent indignity, and eventual amnesty post 1951 (for most). This ratio of execution to accused of 0.5%, less than a single percentage point, seems to also be in direct contradiction to the claims of "complete justification", as does the findings of the court to place their comparative number of executions at a mere 1/6th that of the extrajudicial ones using the modern, conservative findings, even more so if using the 105,000 number, which would put it at 1/70th, or about 1.4%.

If anything, the Resistance fighters were the ones considered to be the savages later on by the French, as even Allied sources describe their behavior as akin to that of "a riot, or civil war", acting without the Free French state able to control matters or properly assess their claims due to the war. After all, much like the Revolution, when the town deputy head for the Resistance didn't like the the prices you sold bread at before the war, who would investigate why someone with such "courage" or "patriotism" accused you of collaboration, lest they be accused themselves?
 
Not at all what happened, but try again. Missile strikes on strategic targets where Ukraine has been caught intentionally moving civilians to to generate war crime publicity, civilians that they forbade by military force from evacuating despite Russia's offers of it; yes, civilians are gonna die, but it's not Putin's fault. The Ukrainian government doesn't seem to see its people as anything more than resources to be expended, or fodder to be used so the press can call Russia evil. Any death in war is tragic, but those civilians wouldn't die if Ukraine didn't deliberately put them in a position to die.

Vatniggers: Russia is not a terrorist state because their civilian targets had soldiers in them.

Also vatniggers: Ukraine bombing civilian targets with soldiers in them in Donetsk is terrorism.
 
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Not at all what happened, but try again. Missile strikes on strategic targets where Ukraine has been caught intentionally moving civilians to to generate war crime publicity, civilians that they forbade by military force from evacuating despite Russia's offers of it; yes, civilians are gonna die, but it's not Putin's fault. The Ukrainian government doesn't seem to see its people as anything more than resources to be expended, or fodder to be used so the press can call Russia evil. Any death in war is tragic, but those civilians wouldn't die if Ukraine didn't deliberately put them in a position to die.
Yeah the Samsung building was housing tanks on the 19th floor.
 
We have bridges to spare. You should insist Polish schools teach geography in addition to janitorial skills.

Thank you for your butthurt contribution to the thread. Again, tell your dad to use lube tonight, you feel better.

The former Polish city of Lviv, as of a few minutes ago.
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That image is actually kinda scary, i remember this one time when i was in the city and an earthquake hit in the dead of the night, it was so strong it blew up a lot of the grids and it all went black for kilometers on end. That and the weird so called "earthquake lights" that flash in the sky repeatedly truly made it look like the world was ending.
 
yes, civilians are gonna die, but it's not Hitler's fault. The Soviet government doesn't seem to see its people as anything more than resources to be expended, or fodder to be used so the press can call Germany evil. Any death in war is tragic, but those civilians wouldn't die if Stalin didn't deliberately put them in a position to die.

no difference.
 
At this point I don't think anyone cares but the Gen. Zaluzhnyi bracelet case was solved.
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