Stable Diffusion, NovelAI, Machine Learning Art - AI art generation discussion and image dump

[Starved Artist]

Ai is meh. For people who have absolutely zero talent, it's the best thing ever. For people with talent, nothing's changed. For people who's job it is AKA the Gatekeeping Faggots who tell people" You need to learn how to do XYZ" when they don't have the considerable knowledge, talent or skill to back it up? This is their worst fucking nightmare.

Now is the time. Now is where you can tell the good art students from the shit art students.

On a side note: The advent of ai art has revealed a lot of DeviantArt artists are actually really shit tracers that can color very well.






Individual OC DONUT STEEL Community is having a meltdown since they're notorious for being filled with tracers, but it's goddamn blatent these days. Most of these "artists" all make the same mistake. They leave their older work up, which allows you to compare and contrast everything they've made since the public launch of SD. And by older Artwork, I mean, it's been a week.


Personally, I've been running my own artwork through stable diffusion to generate new variations. The only problem is... SD shits itself if the artwork is already missing limbs or has 6 alien fingers. So I can't get anything useful out of it aside from shitty Bayonetta looking rejects. Of course, I'm biased against myself and believe everything I do is shit, I don't have the confidence to attempt to pass Ai shit off as my own lmao.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

Thank you for featuring this, Null. My porno dreams are coooooooooming!!

 

[hydrochloric gunt wash]

You see how shitty it turns out when you try to make it create something that isn't a half naked anime girl of about 12 years old? Cause this AI has a very clear and obvious purpose and has been fed very specific source material.

I’m all for protecting kids from pedos that are so rampant on this here internet, but some of you motherfuckers are uncomfortably obsessed. is there a predator in the mirror too, buddy?

 

[Eddie Riggs]

Pol Pot wearing glasses

 

[Equivocal_Iki]

Why try? I no longer want to learn new skills, because the moment I learn them to any competent level they'll just be automated and unnecessary.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

I’m all for protecting kids from pedos that are so rampant on this here internet, but some of you motherfuckers are uncomfortably obsessed. is there a predator in the mirror too, buddy?

Nah, I think this guy is just a Taliban “art and music is haram” kind of guy. If anything his way of thinking explains why certain groups of people want to stay in pre-industrial eras.

 

[Estate]

You see how shitty it turns out when you try to make it create something that isn't a half naked anime girl of about 12 years old? Cause this AI has a very clear and obvious purpose and has been fed very specific source material.

One can make an AI and feed it classical art and make beautiful things. Again, by your own logic, it's always up to the individual and it's input.
Yours is a very dumb stance to take and it's in the same zone as "video games turn my kids into murderers".

 

[Fools Idol]

Japanese art community is passing around a Google form which asks you if you can tell the difference between ai-generated art from this tool and human made art. The results may surprise you. Some prompts are NSFW.

The quiz is here.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhEpBRnOwiFI-ieNKKu3Y0KcoFbd_ZWod1LeyoV6EEfY78HA/viewform

Human or AI

archived 17 Oct 2022 02:30:36 UTC

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Spoiler: results

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In conclusion, no, ai is not replacing experienced artists at the moment. It IS replacing artists with poor skill and abstract or minimalistic style, however. Ai has poor understanding of three-dimensional space around characters that create awkward scenes and poses. Experienced artists are able to tell which are ai and which are human, but some ai work is bewilderingly good.

I got 37/45, suck my dick Skynet.

 

[3322]

I’m all for protecting kids from pedos that are so rampant on this here internet, but some of you motherfuckers are uncomfortably obsessed. is there a predator in the mirror too, buddy?

No but there are plenty of pedos waiting to take real pictures of children they personally know to turn them into photorealistic porn with the click of a button. They can then share those pictures all over the internet or use them to harass the kids and their families. Shadman making porn of people's kids is now something everyone who so inclined can easily do. You really see nothing wrong with this? Even if you don't have kids yourself this should make you sick.

 

[Samir Al Hajeed]

Why try? I no longer want to learn new skills, because the moment I learn them to any competent level they'll just be automated and unnecessary.

Dumb defeatist attitude, even if ai wasn't a thing there'd still be a million chinese 11 year olds better than you no matter what discipline you choose. Learn skills for yourself not for other people.

 

[AmpleApricots]

SD is perfect for one-off images, for example in games (these little portraits with events in paradox games come to mind) if you want any consistency out of it there's little hope though as things are usually fairly random.

I'm not too familiar with the NAI model but the default open source model knows a ton of different art styles via using the artist name as a tag. Somebody did the work to put it all on a website. It knows a ton of artists. Here's another resource. (milage may vary with the leaked AI models as they're probably weighted very, very differently) Interestingly enough, in my experience it's very good at 19th century style portrait painting and impressionism. A combination of architecture and picasso also creates interesting results.

The AI field has been accelerating insanely in the last few years and there's some very exicting things in the text generation pipeline coming too. Problem with text generation right now is that it's very computing intensive for relatively meh results. We'll soon see a few very efficient models here that'll punch way above their weight. Some so efficient that they'll even be able to be ran on a CPU, no GPU required. I've lived to see it and see a lot of parallels with the current AI "revolution" and the home computer revolution in the 80s and 90s, complete with people scared of it and skeptics that claim it's a fad that'll never take off.

There's also some very impressive synth voice AI around, AI that can generate good subtiles for speech in realtime (not the garbage google has on youtube) and AI video and 3D modeling. Interesting times ahead.

In my opinion, the only way to take away it's power is to make it open source and spread it as wide and as far as possible. If technology like this remains in the hand of a select few, the effects could be disastrous.

 

[Estate]

No but there are plenty of pedos waiting to take real pictures of children they personally know to turn them into photorealistic porn with the click of a button. They can then share those pictures all over the internet or use them to harass the kids and their families. Shadman making porn of people's kids is now something everyone who so inclined can easily do. You really see nothing wrong with this? Even if you don't have kids yourself this should make you sick.

You sound like that schizo femcel Gina Giletti turning everything into a pedo discussion.
Anyway, going by your reasoning, why not also ban photo cameras? or ban the internet?

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Why try? I no longer want to learn new skills, because the moment I learn them to any competent level they'll just be automated and unnecessary.

Art at it's core is just an expression of our feelings as humans, which ai can never replicate so don't worry about it. I don't think any real artists, those who aren't coom-brained, are concerned because their art isn't about how it looks, but what it takes to get there and how it makes other people feel. Bob Ross always emphasized this in his work.

Consider ai just another tool to make art--just like physical stamps and photoshop brushes can be used to make art. Say you want to envision a character, well, now you can use an ai to manifest that vision. Now, if you have a story you want to tell, you have a tool to help manifest your vision. Now, even those who are paralzyed or suffer from Parkinsons can create art. Those who create art to express an idea or emotion will continue doing so while those who mass produce for the coom will lose their shit.

 

[Moon Cricket]

As someone who just got quoted £400 for some custom art to use as a wrap for my car…. This is fucking awesome news. I really really like the artists style but it is anime-like and now I am thinking of rejecting that offer and trying to create it myself using this.
I can’t download it right at this moment though. :/

 

[3322]

ban the internet

Good idea actually.

 

[Equivocal_Iki]

One way to look at it on the positive, AI dungeon hasn't replaced literature.

 

[Lurking9e9]

You see how shitty it turns out when you try to make it create something that isn't a half naked anime girl of about 12 years old? Cause this AI has a very clear and obvious purpose and has been fed very specific source material.

Stable Diffusion by itself cannot do anime, since it wasn't trained on that.
So your argument of "IT WAS TRAINED ON NAKED 12 YEAR OLD ANIME GIRLS" makes no sense.

 

[Starved Artist]

Japanese art community is passing around a Google form which asks you if you can tell the difference between ai-generated art from this tool and human made art. The results may surprise you. Some prompts are NSFW.

The quiz is here.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhEpBRnOwiFI-ieNKKu3Y0KcoFbd_ZWod1LeyoV6EEfY78HA/viewform

Human or AI

archived 17 Oct 2022 02:30:36 UTC

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Spoiler: results

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In conclusion, no, ai is not replacing experienced artists at the moment. It IS replacing artists with poor skill and abstract or minimalistic style, however. Ai has poor understanding of three-dimensional space around characters that create awkward scenes and poses. Experienced artists are able to tell which are ai and which are human, but some ai work is bewilderingly good.

40/45 , Test is biased and it proves a point though.

1. The Ai doesn't know light direction and truly soft shadows which is the clear giveaway for most of the images. A really shit artist could pass their ai-work by simply saying they never learned how to shade properly / never learned to draw hands/ do the Rob Liefield Method of hiding the hands behind something - you know, the thing shit artists already do.

But Ai-Fakers don't know the tricks of trade, so it's gonna be hilarious.

2. a properly cropped image can hide all trace of AI-influence.

3. Decent artists who use a lot of post work will get accused of being ai.



This image is a great example of a human hiding their shit hands in a way that would look like an Ai did it.
You have to look at the images three times.
1. Normal display.
2. Zoomed in.
3. Zoomed out.
Upon close / normal inspection, you'd assume this is an ai image.
Upon zoomed out inspection, you can see it's human.

Also,
>including an obviously traced image in the test


Holy fuck. Actually take in consideration the SIZE of their skull to the body. You might have to zoom out understand what's REALLY fucking wrong with this image. I almost thought it was ai-generated but no ai would make THIS mistake.
When zoomed in, it looks normal.
When zoomed out, Jesus Fucking Christ.
Based Test Developers.

 

[ATI Escapee]

As someone who just got quoted £400 for some custom art to use as a wrap for my car…. This is fucking awesome news. I really really like the artists style but it is anime-like and now I am thinking of rejecting that offer and trying to create it myself using this.
I can’t download it right at this moment though. :/

As someone who does handmade/art crap for a living, this makes me sad but I also cannot blame you at all. Ugh. Good luck though!

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

One way to look at it on the positive, AI dungeon hasn't replaced literature.

Procedurally, generally writing is easy. Childrens movies already follow very few tropes. One day TV tropes will go from just being a den of autism to being a resource for ai to identify what media tropes stimulates humans. "ah yes so humans enjoyed THIS scene in The Count of Monte Cristo therefore I should recreate this too".

Procedural generation is already a thing for video games, with much of the 2008 game Spore and unreleased Star Citizen having procedurally generated environments. Just a matter of time.