Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Grotesque Bushes]

The Kherson evacuation, aside from being a propaganda W for Ukies, is a potential huge problem. If they engage then urban combat can be a massive resource drain, the surrounding terrain is a river delta, and Dnipro is wide enough that they likely don't have the capabilities to cross it aside from the three points - either Kakhovka or one of the two Antonivsky bridges. Walking into prepared, layer defense at obvious chokepoints won't be fun. There's a fair chance Russians will stop them there, and the counterplan will be to attack Melitopol and give up on trying to cross Dnipro altogether.

"We shot at these drones, and therefore they deviated a little from the course. And if they hadn't been shooting, they would have hit the target exactly. Into a strategic facility with four pipes, which was located 50 meters across the road."

But he regrets that there are victims due to the fact that the drone deviated from the target and hit a residential building. Ganapolsky immediately changes the subject.


To the last holhol.

What is the lesson behind this koan, "If you try to prevent the enemy from achieving their objectives in a war, they win"?

So Ukraine has to pay shills to post pro-Ukraine news. And you coping Ukro retards are doing it for free in this thread. Pathetic.

At a certain stage in life enjoying your hobbies at your own pace wins over taking in extra income, even doing something you like doing.

Must be embarrassing when modern NATO AA costing millions of dollars of taxpayer money get absolutely mogged by wooden RC planes made from shit and sticks.

Come on, step away from this shit verbiage and try to address the actual problem, cause it's interesting. This war will be one of the testbeds/case studies for equivalent nation drone warfare and how to address it. Drones are in some way a similar multiplier to MANPADS and MANPATS. As of now they create very unfavorable economic equations as you HAVE TO take out that 100k observation drone that's gathering intel of your forces, or that 20k drone that can hit your fuel depot. As of now the tool to counter them are very expensive missiles, experimental-ish anti-drone weapons and conventional SPAAG like the Shilka or Gepard. The most interesting question of this entire conflict right after 'who will win' is 'how will drones be used and countered in the future'.

 

[Dylan]

I have translated some excerpts from the interview with General Surovkin( the new leader of the Military Operation)

-Kherson officials had been organizing evacuation of the citizens
-The situation at Kherson is difficult. Ukrainian forces shell civil objects and infrastructure, making it difficult for people to leave. (just like they did at Mariupol)
-They have gathered information that their NATO heads demand offensive actions at any cost, without consideration for civilians' safety. (typical for any conflict NATO has participated in)
-They have gathered information Kyiv is preparing massive missile strikes at Kherson, they won't be targeting anything specific. (This means they plan to grind the city into ruins)
-The current objective is to protect the citizens.
-Their next move depends on the outcome of the current situation.
-They are considering taking *difficult* decision

So essentially Kiev plans on doing maximum damage to Kherson since they can't capture it. Russian side is preparing to take *difficult* decisions, which may mean anything from leaving "kherson in ruins"(which is bad) to "leveling kiev's ground"(which is bad too).
Anyway, with General Surovkin in charge, Ukrain side will suffer consequences just like they did after blowing Crimean Bridge.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Why do you think that European leaders even want to stop them? They helped create this crisis to get cheap labor, a diverse workforce, and compliant brown euro-golems. Your leaders are not stopping anybody, they want those refugees to replace you because you use too much energy and are bad for the environment.

Is this Luka's fault too?

Syrian refugees mass in convoy on Turkish border to walk into Greece

Tens of thousands of people are planning to enter EU country together, after alleged racist attacks and rising tensions

www.theguardian.com

The fact that Europe is wiling to let sandniggers in, but not Russians, says more about Russians than it does about the sandniggers.

We are not letting them in. Frontex has been funded through the roof.

 

[EyeGuy]

Two Russian lovebirds get woken up by a Ukrainian drone:

Spoiler: no more handjobs for you

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

The Kherson evacuation, aside from being a propaganda W for Ukies, is a potential huge problem. If they engage then urban combat can be a massive resource drain, the surrounding terrain is a river delta, and Dnipro is wide enough that they likely don't have the capabilities to cross it aside from the three points - either Kakhovka or one of the two Antonivsky bridges. Walking into prepared, layer defense at obvious chokepoints won't be fun. There's a fair chance Russians will stop them there, and the counterplan will be to attack Melitopol and give up on trying to cross Dnipro altogether.


What is the lesson behind this koan, "If you try to prevent the enemy from achieving their objectives in a war, they win"?


At a certain stage in life enjoying your hobbies at your own pace wins over taking in extra income, even doing something you like doing.


Come on, step away from this shit verbiage and try to address the actual problem, cause it's interesting. This war will be one of the testbeds/case studies for equivalent nation drone warfare and how to address it. Drones are in some way a similar multiplier to MANPADS and MANPATS. As of now they create very unfavorable economic equations as you HAVE TO take out that 100k observation drone that's gathering intel of your forces, or that 20k drone that can hit your fuel depot. As of now the tool to counter them are very expensive missiles, experimental-ish anti-drone weapons and conventional SPAAG like the Shilka or Gepard. The most interesting question of this entire conflict right after 'who will win' is 'how will drones be used and countered in the future'.

Drone usage is indeed one of the more interesting aspects of this war, we're seeing a process somewhat similar to how airplanes were adopted for military use starting in WW1.

As for countering them, I expect it to branch off into two directions, one being EW, the other being physical measures, like swarms of mini-drones designed solely for taking out bigger drones or a resurgence of flak-type autocannons combined with some kind of advanced targeting system.

We are not letting them in. Frontex has been funded through the roof.

For every migrant they stop, a hundred more come in. Just look at the current state of Europe right now.

 

[Male Idiot]

Drone usage is indeed one of the more interesting aspects of this war, we're seeing a process somewhat similar to how airplanes were adopted for military use starting in WW1.

As for countering them, I expect it to branch off into two directions, one being EW, the other being physical measures, like swarms of mini-drones designed solely for taking out bigger drones or a resurgence of flak-type autocannons combined with some kind of advanced targeting system.


For every migrant they stop, a hundred more come in. Just look at the current state of Europe right now.

The time of the Bofors have come again!

Frontex is shit. Hungarian border hunters are the only ones that managed to stem the tide for now.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

What is the lesson behind this koan, "If you try to prevent the enemy from achieving their objectives in a war, they win"?

I am pretty sure if you meditate on why using misiles (especially heat seeking ones) to try to shoot down a barrage of drones in a heavily populated city you will find it is a bad idea. Buildings can be quickly replaced, human beings take a couple of decades, a little over one if you aren't picky.

Pretty sure that's the reasoning behind the evacuation of civilians from Kherson as Ukraine will bomb it to bits or Russia will, and maybe only Russia cares enough about the people living there to get them out of the way. I fail to see how that's a propaganda win for Ukraine; in fact, it's quite the opposite. I say this as a human being, not a propaganda mouthpiece.

 

[draggs]

Why is Russia declaring martial law in Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia when 98% of the vote there was allegedly to happily join Russia

Appears to be more Nazi Banderist running dogs in Novorossiya than anticipated...

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Why is Russia declaring martial law in Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia when 98% of the vote there was allegedly to happily join Russia

Appears to be more Nazi Banderist running dogs in Novorossiya than anticipated...

Same reason NYC was under a de facto martial law for years, I imagine. Glownigger assets off the reservation (glowniggers nigging in this case).

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Why is Russia declaring martial law in Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia when 98% of the vote there was allegedly to happily join Russia

Appears to be more Nazi Banderist running dogs in Novorossiya than anticipated...

Thanks for proving my point, that the idea of not using the civilian population as a human shield frightens and confuses the NATO shill. They will be evacuated so Ukraine can't indiscriminately murder them.

 

[draggs]

Same reason NYC was under a de facto martial law for years, I imagine. Glownigger assets off the reservation.

When was NYC under de facto martial law?

Thanks for proving my point, that the idea of not using the civilian population as a human shield frightens and confuses the NATO shill. They will be evacuated so Ukraine can't indiscriminately murder them.

Where are these indiscriminate guerilla murders? You'd think there'd have been some spectacular high casualty attacks, but instead all there has been is targeted assassinations of Russian chimp officials and attacks on transportation and supply depots. Why hasn't the vatnigger propaganda machine been screaming about these indiscriminate murders? Time, location, numbers?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

When was NYC under de facto martial law?

Where are these indiscriminate guerilla murders? You'd think there'd have been some spectacular high casualty attacks, but instead all there has been is targeted assassinations of Russian chimp officials and attacks on transportation and supply depots

You mean like when Ukraine slaughtered civilians in Bucha? I honestly can't tell if you're playing dumb or if you actually drank so much of NATO cum-flavored KoolAid that you believe that shit for real.

 

[draggs]

You mean like Ukraine slaughtered civilians in Bucha?

Nobody but retarded vatnigger chimps believes the mass graves in Bucha were done by Ukraine, reeee about it some more

And we're not talking about mythological hohol mass murder retaliation in areas the hohol army has retaken, we're talking about guerillas in areas under Russian occupation

Of course a vatnigger chimp would try to conflate the two, even though he has nothing to stand on in either. Never mind the vatnigger chimp cooming over the prospect of Russia murdering hundreds of thousands or millions of civilians in Europe with nuclear weapons as he has ook ooked about multiple times in this thread

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Reminds me of this classic, just use Surovikin instead of Susanin.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Nobody but retarded chimps believes the mass graves in Bucha were done by Ukraine, reeee about it some more

And we're not talking about mythological hohol mass murder retaliation in areas the hohol army has retaken, we're talking about guerillas in areas under Russian occupation

Of course a vatnigger chimp would try to conflate the two, even though he has nothing to stand on in either. Never mind the vatnigger chimp cooming over Russia murdering hundreds of thousands or millions of civilians in Europe with nuclear weapons as he has ook ooked about multiple times in this thread

Again, look how upset the NATO shill gets at the fact that Ukraine won't get to slaughter the civilian population of Kherson like they did in Bucha. He just wanted to see residential buildings get shelled and civilians thrown into mass graves, you guys. He's totally not a bad guy.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

For every migrant they stop, a hundred more come in. Just look at the current state of Europe right now.

The current state of Europe is “desirable to live in.” Notice how they’re not migrating to Russia.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

When was NYC under de facto martial law?

Are you an ESL student? Look up what happened, and the meaning of the term de facto.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I have an extremely retarded question.

Could drones be efficiently destroyed by some kind of modern flak system?

 

[kuuu]

I have an extremely retarded question.

Could drones be efficiently destroyed by some kind of modern flak system?

Sure. You probably wouldn't want to use that shit in densely populated cities like Kiev though.
Also, detecting drones will still remain a problem. They'd only be able to shoot them down once they are in sight.

 

[AnonymousKot]

I have an extremely retarded question.

Could drones be efficiently destroyed by some kind of modern flak system?

that depends, usually drones are taken down with missiles that can track and hit them, shooting at them works if you can land enough bullets at sensitive parts, for flaks like artillery being shot at the air the shrapnel might damage it enough that a drone could be down but i doubt it, drones aren't that weak even kamikaze ones