Lula barely beats Bolsonaro to become the President of Brazil AGAIN

Will he die in office?

  • Lmao Yes

    Votes: 198 72.8%
  • Lmao No

    Votes: 74 27.2%

  • Total voters
    272
Meh. Bolsonaro only managed to make enemies left and right as president. He walked back every single promise he made for a more libertarian economy, he walked back his promises for a public safety reform, he walked back removing the protection against criminal judgement because his son is corrupt, etc. He was a goddamn waste of 4 years.
 
I don't know why I upset everyone. Brazil is infact a massive shithole it was one when Bolsonaro took off and it will be one long after Lula is removed against for corruption a second time.

I've been to that dump of a country and when there are signs in hotels tell you you shouldn't wear anything expensive and where not to go you know you're in a real garden spot.
 
The supreme federal court (STF) said that Bolsonaro recognized the election results by authorizing the beginning of the transition.
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I know nothing about Brazil, but is Brazil usually this politically divided by two different extremes? Because that's what I'm seeing with Bolsonaro and Lula. It's pretty backwards.
 
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I can see it now. The upcoming Brazilian boogaloo.

The roads will be lined with the discarded flip-flops of the dead. Unchecked hordes of moped gangs scourge the cities, while in the countryside the cartels fight a desperate war against the alienígenas. The heroic off duty cops who once protected the cities are now dying on the frontlines in the civil war. Such is the fate of Brazil.

Good luck Brazil bros, I hope you all make it through okay.
 
The roads will be lined with the discarded flip-flops of the dead. Unchecked hordes of moped gangs scourge the cities, while in the countryside the cartels fight a desperate war against the alienígenas. The heroic off duty cops who once protected the cities are now dying on the frontlines in the civil war. Such is the fate of Brazil.
Thats not a vision of the future, thats just Brazil
 
Brazil anons I hope you're all safe. Looks pretty crazy out there.
Yeah, I heard rumors a few bolso folks had been killed, not sure how true that is. Real hard to find much about what's going on when you don't speak the language.
I like bolso, but my opinion means fuckall, I really hope it sorts out without bloodshed.
 
Lula and Bolsonaro represent extreme total polar opposites, the rural poor Socialist North, and the urban rich Conservative South.
Both sides don't want to collaborate with each other, and now see each other with hostility, and not as fellow Brazilians, but as the "others".
Think about Gran Colombia when it broke into Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador.
We need new political figures, if we continue 10 more years in the hands of these two Cold War Era leaders, it might blow in our faces 1992 Bosnia style.
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You are definitely generalizing things too much, a lot of the rural side of Brazil also encounters itself in the Mid-West region of the country, a region where Bolsonaro won, Bolsonaro also won in 4 out of the 7 states of the Northern region plus the capital of state of Amazonas, Bolsonaro lost in the rich urban city of São Paulo, he also lost in the extreme South of Rio Grande do Sul, and while Bolsonaro lost in the state of Minas Gerais his allies won as Governor, a seat on the Senate and the majority of the votes both as a federal and state deputy.
There is way too many factors to be considered instead of just summarizing into a North vs South thing, people usually use this argument because of Northeast, but Northeast is a region that is completely secluded from the rest of the world that survives mostly of assistencialism for almost 2 decades and is ran by corrupt political families like the Sarneys and Calheiros that just keeps the region down on its poverty.
I believe the current governor of Minas Gerais would be the best candidate that could unite the regions, but if progressivism keeps infecting the mind of zoomers in the Southeast and assistencialism keeps reigning as king in the Northeast, I doubt the situation will revert anytime soon.
 
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Meh. Bolsonaro only managed to make enemies left and right as president. He walked back every single promise he made for a more libertarian economy, he walked back his promises for a public safety reform, he walked back removing the protection against criminal judgement because his son is corrupt, etc. He was a goddamn waste of 4 years.
Ah, so he really was the Brazilian Trump.
 
Ah, so he really was the Brazilian Trump.
And Lula is the Brazilian Biden.

Btw, one guy on Unz posted a rant about Lula and some of the comments are worth to check.

Luis Ignacio “Lula” da Silva may be the ultimate 21st century political comeback kid. At 77, fit and sharp, leading an alliance of 10 political parties, he has just been elected as Brazilian president for what will be a de facto third term after his first two from 2003 to 2010.

Lula even staged a comeback-inside-a-comeback, during the extremely fast and tight electronic vote counting, reaching 50.9% against 49.1% to the incumbent, extreme right President Jair Bolsonaro, representing a difference of only two million votes in a country of 215 million people. Lula’s back in office on January 1, 2023.

Lula’s first speech was somewhat anti-Lula; noted for his Garcia Marquez-style improvisations and folksy stream of consciousness, he read from a measured, carefully-prepared script.

Lula emphasized the defense of democracy; the fight against hunger; the drive for sustainable development with social inclusion; a “relentless fight against racism, prejudice and discrimination.”

He invited international cooperation to preserve the Amazon rainforest and will fight for fair global trade, instead of trade “that condemns our country to be an eternal exporter of raw materials.”

Lula, always an exceptional negotiator, managed to win against the formidable state machine apparatus unleashed by Bolsonaro, which saw the distribution of billions of dollars in vote-buying; an avalanche of fake news; outright intimidation and attempts of voter suppression against the poor by rabid Bolsonarists; and countless episodes of political violence.

Lula inherits a devastated nation that, much like the US, is completely polarized. From 2003 to 2010 – he rose to power, incidentally, only two months before America’s “shock and awe” against Iraq – it was quite a different story.

Lula managed to bring to the table economic prosperity, massive poverty alleviation and an array of social policies. In eight years, he created at least 15 million jobs.

Vicious political persecution ended up canceling him out of the 2018 presidential elections, paving the way for Bolsonaro – a project entertained by the hard-right Brazilian military since 2014.
 
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