I hate the Internet and the people who own it

[Wasbenzine]

Here is the Kiwifarms connectivity from a popular VPN service: https://archive.ph/mbfJK
Only the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway and a smattering of US servers are able to connect (look at the second coloured column). At this point I think Null should host a private Kiwifarms entry server on a host that VPN providers are connected to, like this one (if they would take the business, they provide services for Mullvad). If he only made it accessible to that services' intranet, that would mean that only people connected to that intranet (through a VPN) would be able to access it. This is why many businesses requires employees use VPNs to work from home. This would bypass the need for T1 providers completely, provided the intranet was connected with physical fiber, quite literally creating your own internet.

 

[gata]

>my third world shitty internet can access the clearnet site with no problems than amerimutts now.
Fucking t(y)rannies, you may cuck the burgers but you won't stop me and the other shithole posters from calling you niggerfaggot and how YNBAW.

 

[lolwatagain]

You say this as if there's anything else we can do. I can't think of a single technological or legal solution to this. We either have to live with this or we have to take the fight offline and start protests that scare the people responsible for this. If there's a legal or technological solution I'd love to hear it but I can't think of one.

At this point, the only solution is to classify ISPs at every level as common carriers and bring back Net Neutrality.

The economic argument against the excessive FCC regulations that would be imposed on the ISPs was a lot stronger when they weren't being ideologues who used their power to decide what customers who have no fucking input into who they peer with can view.

All the economic arguments are meaningless if they can shut everything down because a grifting sexual deviant in a dress cries. Fuck them, define them as common carriers.

 

[FatalTater]

Didja know that internet comes through underwater cables? Kinda interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTBLIYJSzdc

 

[Die Dunkle Maus]

This is a great moment to be alive!

I can't wait until they put us in Kiwi camp, we can like whistle while we work and pass scribbled memes and joke with the guards and shit. Just like HOGAN'S HEROES

 

[乙乙乙]

I already tried. If we're unwilling to take legal action or form some kind of positive media attention then this is our fate. We're relying on the good will of a bunch of tech bros and we lost that battle when Cloudflare folded. I went through a friend of a friend to talk to D list national journalist that got some clout reporting honestly on Ron Paul. He conveyed interest. When I brought it up I was told it wouldn't matter either way.

is there legal action that can be taken against a tier 1 provider censoring like this? i would donate to a kiwi legal fund

 

[Silhouette]

I'm using Optus to connect to clear net on my phone.

Must be location based since I had to install a VPN on my phone to connect.

 

[repentance]

At this point, the only solution is to classify ISPs at every level as common carriers and bring back Net Neutrality.

That's going to require different strategies in different countries. Even the government here couldn't force ISPs to blackhole KF in the aftermath of Christchurch. Some ISPs did it as a courtesy but others didn't and all of them made clear that they needed the government to provide some kind of legal authority for the action. That's why KF was only blocked for a short time by those ISPs.

We do have the e-Safety Commissioner now, and they can order sites be blocked for up to three months, but the criteria for that happening require more than just hurt feelings.

Must be location based since I had to install a VPN on my phone to connect.

Yeah, I always use a VPN.

 

[Gunter Hatherer]

Ameri-mutt checking in. Clearnet, but using Opera's quasi-VPN proxy.

So easy to run the troon blockade on my country.

 

[glow poster]

Bay Area has no problems, with the farms at least
Seems traffic goes through PNAP -> Unitasglobal -> NL endpoint.

 

[StutterBox]

VPNchads stay winning.

 

[Fomo Hoire]

is there legal action that can be taken against a tier 1 provider censoring like this? i would donate to a kiwi legal fund

Well, tinfoil hat time, two years ago (around this time of the year, and when lots of people were getting removed from social media too! Oh the coincidences!) we saw how the legal system is able to deny a lawsuit if it really really wants to. Either you're bringing a case too early and you have no standing, or you're bringing it so late that even if you win there's no remedy the judge can offer you, so they'll do you the courtesy of dismissing your case now to save you your time and your legal fees. There is no proper time to sue.

Hell, if you somehow got that perfect middle time, other people will maximize the use of their mandatory response times to stall until your case is now too late to do anything about anymore.

So, let's assume there is a legal action that can be taken. Does it stand a chance of getting its day in court?

 

[make_it_so]

Real talk, how the hell is Stormfront of all places able to stay up more than Kiwi can at this point?

Glowies need their boogeyman/honeypot to stay up to keep running gay ops and justify their yearly budget increases.

 

[Gat]

Are there more advanced tools in the same vein as tracert that can pinpoint where a break is?

 

[lolwatagain]

Well, tinfoil hat time, two years ago (around this time of the year, and when lots of people were getting removed from social media too! Oh the coincidences!) we saw how the legal system is able to deny a lawsuit if it really really wants to. Either you're bringing a case too early and you have no standing, or you're bringing it so late that even if you win there's no remedy the judge can offer you, so they'll do you the courtesy of dismissing your case now to save you your time and your legal fees. There is no proper time to sue.

Hell, if you somehow got that perfect middle time, other people will maximize the use of their mandatory response times to stall until your case is now too late to do anything about anymore.

So, let's assume there is a legal action that can be taken. Does it stand a chance of getting its day in court?

Standing isn't something that amorphous. If you've been damaged or you will clearly be damaged, then you have standing to sue. It's all a matter of finding the right Plaintiff.

Lolcow, LLC. is clearly damaged by this, standing isn't an issue and the remedy is obvious.

But clearly Null should kill two birds with one stone, and get funding by getting a VPN sponsorship. Just use the code MADATTHEINTERNET for 30% off a 2 year plan.

 

[Nekoi.Inukuma.00]

Agreed. If anything, we should take a page from the troons and be like the plague like they are. Its also important to remember that there was an actual time when they were heavily suppressed and had to get creative in getting past big brother.

The farms will not die as long as there are more people with balls to find ways to let it continue in one way shape or form. Even if its by spirit.

This. Organizing gayops is lame. However, thoughtful independent action, and use of existing power and connections by individuals so motivated is where this needs to escalate to. We just had some troon CTO of a IT startup literally break one of the foundations of the internet to keep a gossip forum from talking about her creepiness and embezzling from a trans charity.

That has got to raise some alarm bells. Even total cucks like Mike Masnick over a Techdirt have to be looking at this with some concern that it doesn't stop here. The recent Intercept article about just how much the government is putting their finger on the scale has congress critters who are likely to assume the majority looking at these issues.

That said, double down, triple down; be the change you want to see in the world. Who's up for working on some proxies to bypass the censorious fucks at GTT?

 

[Polarity]

You are all over-reacting. This is far better than before when the site would go down for a week at a time.

Nature is healing.

 

[M3xus]

Mutt here. Easier to get back in than I figured.

 

[Mimiga]

I wish TOR was easier to recommend to normies. The onion addresses are completely fucking lost on them, even if you tell them about how easy it is to download the browser.

 

[Grub]

Clearnet's down where I am up in leafistan.