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[Freya]

Candidates like Boebert and Oz are objectively fucking awful. If anything, it shows that people are just tired of retards claiming to tell it how it is but lack even the basic grasp of how anything works. People not just reflexively voting for the other side is a good thing although I think we’re beyond voting at this point.

Last election most people here thought Trump was going to get over 400 electoral votes because of Hunter Biden’s penis. This is the consequences of an echo chamber.

Having said that, I think a red wave could have easily happened but Republican leadership didn’t want it because that means they have a mandate to do things they don’t want to do. Guys like Bitch McConnell would rather just do nothing but push for more aid to Israel and Ukraine. Maybe some strongly worded letters get issued out that are promptly circularly filed.

People don’t seem to realize that abortion bans are a dead issue We just got told for two years that we have no rights to what we can do with our bodies and here it’s popping up again. I think abortion is abhorrent but nobody’s been able to explain why we need millions of unwanted children, a disproportionate amount are niggers, scurrying around. Most people pressing for this ban is just the usual ownin’ da libs bullshit.

Yup. Not to mention the non-nigger abortions are usually subhumans as well.

What's upsetting to me is the background for this election could not have been more perfect for the Republicans. And they just had to throw it away to moralfag over Shaniqua's uterine lining because "it's about morals and principles." Why doesn't the pragmatic "pro business" party focus on that instead of trying to die on every retarded culture war hill they can? And to top it off you have all the fuckwits in here talking about how this was actually just rigged by the communists/CIA/Democrats.

Just frustrating

 

[Yankee Shogun]

Why does everyone seem so pessimistic? Republicans are pretty much confirmed to have the House and have a decent chance of gaining the Senate. I get this wasn't the super sweep you were dreaming of, but it's pretty much just a repeat of the 2018 midterms with the roles reversed. Republicans have the House and Democrats the Senate, look how much the Democrats fucked with Trump in his last two years, so why can't Republicans do the same? You just seem to be buying into the Democratic Hopium they keep pushing to try and motivate their base.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Well some news from the most libtard state in the nation.

Newsom won as expected but his margin of victory is way way lower than in the recall last year and his first gubernatorial win.



And LA will vote in Caruso.



Seems more like to me that the GOPe tried to fuck this election up though the zoomers and young colleged aged woman did their part as well, but the GOP takes the blame for this fuckup.

 

[Freya]

Imagine voting to be poor and have us go to the brink of war with Russia because you’re mad you don’t have the choice to commit infanticide. Abortion isn’t even illegal everywhere, it’s only illegal in certain places and you can travel elsewhere to get it.

don't worry. we will make sure it is legal everywhere soon enough

 

[SBG]

But criminal justice reform started with Trump when Ivanka and Kim Kardashian sobbed to him about needing reform. Trump put more effort into getting that bill passed than anything meaningful on immigration. Also there was no plan to address crime. No plans to address inflation which again started with policies that began with Trump.

Trump did a ton on immigration in spite of the Republican congress adamantly opposing him on it. Partly this was because you had a faction that believed they could be "more Trump than Trump" and push for even more restrictions than the moderates would allow, while the leftist Republicans felt Trump had no sway at all and were working the complete opposite direction for no restrictions.

For instance Trump did his Public Charge policy which was allowed by SCOTUS

U.S. Supreme Court lets hardline Trump immigration policy take effect

The U.S. Supreme Court gave the go-ahead on Monday for one of President Donald Trump's hardline immigration policies, allowing his administration to implement a rule denying legal permanent residency to certain immigrants deemed likely to require government assistance in...

www.reuters.com

Trump's changes to immigration rules helped ensure a ton of would be asylum seekers were sent right back home.

Denied asylum, migrants return to place they fear most: home

SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras (AP) — By now, the young couple thought they’d be in the United States. Somewhere, anywhere, in the United States...

apnews.com

Trump arranged a pact with Guatemala to have them accept immigrants at the Mexican border who had passed through more than one country to try getting to the US.

Guatemala Is Set to Finalize Deal With U.S. to Accept Mexican Asylum …

archived 30 Dec 2019 06:16:40 UTC

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Trump's rule changes helped double denial rates for H-1B visas.

Denial rates for H-1B visas — awarded to high-skilled workers — have more than doubled since Trump took office, according to tabulations from National Foundation for American Policy. Processing delays for citizenship applications have doubled. Naturalization and visa fees have skyrocketed.

And continuously worked at trying to prevent refugees coming in.

The problem wasn’t that the 26-million-strong global refugee population lacked a single person who met America’s strict screening requirements. No, our admissions flatlined because Trump announced and then delayed signing a new refugee ceiling for the 2020 fiscal year. This delay led to a complete moratorium on admissions.
Hundreds of flights were canceled for approved refugees who had waited years or decades to come — once again, legally — to our shining city on a hill. As the moratorium dragged on, some refugees’ eligibility expired. At least four were minors who have now turned 18. This means they’ve aged out of the resettlement program they were accepted under and now must get back in line, perhaps indefinitely, to reapply under a different system as adults.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/theres-no-other-way-to-explain-trumps-immigration-policy-its-just-bigotry/2019/11/25/348b38f4-0fcc-11ea-9cd7-a1becbc82f5e_story.html

And so on and so on.

Trump was constantly jumping through hoops trying to deal with immigration and he deserves credit for it. It's been a failing of right wing media that they rarely talked about what all Trump was doing or succeeding with. Instead right wing media focused on hot takes and criticizing bullshit like the prison reform bill because it said prisons should respect the legislated amount of time off for good behavior that inmates were supposed to be getting. Led to people that didn't bother reading about the bill into believing it started programs to let violent criminals out of prison sooner.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Why does everyone seem so pessimistic? Republicans are pretty much confirmed to have the House and have a decent chance of gaining the Senate. I get this wasn't the super sweep you were dreaming of, but it's pretty much just a repeat of the 2018 midterms with the roles reversed. Republicans have the House and Democrats the Senate, look how much the Democrats fucked with Trump in his last two years, so why can't Republicans do the same? You just seem to be buying into the Democratic Hopium they keep pushing to try and motivate their base.

Republicans didn't win as hard as projected.

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

I've gotten you upset. More than enough for me.

Aren't you that guy who combs through whole threads tacking little stickers (which are about as valuable an input as your vote) on things that make your butt ache?

 

[LurkTrawl]

Why does everyone seem so pessimistic? Republicans are pretty much confirmed to have the House and have a decent chance of gaining the Senate. I get this wasn't the super sweep you were dreaming of, but it's pretty much just a repeat of the 2018 midterms with the roles reversed. Republicans have the House and Democrats the Senate, look how much the Democrats fucked with Trump in his last two years, so why can't Republicans do the same? You just seem to be buying into the Democratic Hopium they keep pushing to try and motivate their base.

In concept I think the reason is that things have gotten pretty bad but yet people are still voting D in droves.

Problem is there's a difference between "pretty" bad, and "as bad as it takes". We're going to get the second pretty soon and the first isn't enough to rattle the braincages of the niggercattle. I was kind of expecting this but tempering your expectations tends to lend one the moniker "doomer" nowadays so... I didn't say anything specific regading that. Though I still wish the comedy scenario I was hoping for came to pass but that's just me. Certainly nothing to doom over if your local officials are all on the level.

 

[Yankee Shogun]

Republicans didn't win as hard as projected.

Okay, and? I would take that more as a lesson and not winning as hard is ultimately good for 2024 and the Democratic base won't be as motivated to vote and you can more easily diagnose and purge the problems in the party.

 

[BillTheButcher]

The whole 'candidates were bad' argument is stupid. Oz was not a bad candidate compared to his competition and judging by the governors race, it wouldn't have mattered. The candidates didn't decide the election in PA. I said pages back that focusing on PA was dumb and I was proven right.

GOPe operatives and associated grifters are completely blaming Trump as predicted. Won't mention McConnell pulling funding from swing states to back his friends or Lindsey Graham attempting to throw the election by suggesting a nationwide abortion ban though. The takeaway from Florida isn't the importance of securing elections or actually doing the things you campaigned on, its Trump bad DeSantis good.

I agree that focusing on PA was a mistake, but I disagree wholeheartedly that OZ "wasn't a bad candidate". If you trully think that, then you don't understand midwest voters.

There was never a single flying fuck of a chance that some east coast snake oil salesman was going to just buy 34 acres in PA (with a buyback clause agreed to with the sellers lmao), and win the senate election. Midwesterners are notoriously suspicious of outsiders anyways, and that's moreso with NJ/NY types (unless you're trump and ONLY trump). He's a floridian now, anyways.

We are basically the winterfell of the political landscape. It's always cold, we dont trust outsiders, and our women have beards. This is the way.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Why does everyone seem so pessimistic? Republicans are pretty much confirmed to have the House and have a decent chance of gaining the Senate. I get this wasn't the super sweep you were dreaming of, but it's pretty much just a repeat of the 2018 midterms with the roles reversed. Republicans have the House and Democrats the Senate, look how much the Democrats fucked with Trump in his last two years, so why can't Republicans do the same? You just seem to be buying into the Democratic Hopium they keep pushing to try and motivate their base.

Consider the state the country is in. The fact that people thought "meh I will continue doing the exact same thing" is fucking mortifying.

Okay, and? I would take that more as a lesson and not winning as hard is ultimately good for 2024 and the Democratic base won't be as motivated to vote and you can more easily diagnose and purge the problems in the party.

Funny, that's sounds awfully similar to what the right was saying for the past two years. Next time though, next time all the rigging and propaganda won't matter! Definitely, for sure next time, just two more years! Americans are totally sane and rational and the far left is just fringe and not actually representative of the American left, even though they just showed up to support it. Pure coincidence, we'll get em next time bucko.

 

[LaxerBRO]

EVERY state that voted on abortion last night voted in favor of abortion rights. Even Kentucky. This is why Republicans lost

For once you are correct. Below is a graphic of the Cook Political Report. It shows the political orientation of each state, as you can see Kentucky is as red as Idaho. In fact, Kentucky is even more Republican per this chart.

This should be a fucking wake up call to Republicans. They should stop pushing abortion bans as it's fucking poisonous to their campaigns. I understand it's morally reprehensible but if you are not in power, your political objections means fuck all. Some battles are lost and they can only limit the damage.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Consider the state the country is in. The fact that people thought "meh I will continue doing the exact same thing" is fucking mortifying.

Grocers still have stock, electricity generally still runs as well as water, money isn't completely worthless (Venezuela-tier), and the internet still works so porn/consoom is still on the table.

Our cushy 1st world lives have really deadened not just the people you'd expect but each of us who believes that this is "mortifying" to not vote against, as to just how willing humans on average are to put up with a shitty government. Things will have to get much, much worse before you see a real "red tsunami" event.

This should be a fucking wake up call to Republicans. They should stop pushing abortion bans as it's fucking poisonous to their campaigns. I understand it's morally reprehensible but if you are not in power, your political objections means fuck all. Some battles are lost and they can only limit the damage.

Point to me exactly which "abortion ban" you're talking about, if you would. Because to my knowledge literally no candidate was running on complete abolition of abortion. Nor has one.

 

[Socrates]

Yup. Not to mention the non-nigger abortions are usually subhumans as well.

What's upsetting to me is the background for this election could not have been more perfect for the Republicans. And they just had to throw it away to moralfag over Shaniqua's uterine lining because "it's about morals and principles." Why doesn't the pragmatic "pro business" party focus on that instead of trying to die on every retarded culture war hill they can? And to top it off you have all the fuckwits in here talking about how this was actually just rigged by the communists/CIA/Democrats.

Just frustrating

They don't seem to realize that McConnell played them. He gets to continue to run the party as his personal fiefdom while putting egg on the face of the MAGA movement. This had nothing to do with voter fraud lol.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

I'm going to get downvoted for this but holy shit it needs to be said.

If you're crying about not getting a "Red Tsunami" you're not paying attention hard enough. Not only are things not necessarily as bad as you'd think for everybody everywhere, but more importantly things would have to get a fuckload worse before that would happen. Which they very, very likely are going to get a shitload worse.

Which means that if you're angry that there wasn't a complete dem blowout you're making the same mistake that the dems made in 2020, in that the immediate short-term gain is blinding you to the fact that you don't want to be the motherfuckers in charge nominally or otherwise when something like "running out of diesel" happens.

Exactly. My home state election turned out the way I was hoping. Other states can burn for all I care, and I see zero downsides to rubbing the bugmen's noses in their own doodoo. I'll be fine, since I've been preparing for a while. Everyone ITT should be fine because youse ya'lls should've been preparing as well. It was also a useful election in the sense that Texas and Florida are going to be bastions of liberty moving forward.

My only major concern is the fact that 40% of my state voted to have our children raped. Either they're extremely privileged and don't fully understand what's coming for them or Salt Lake is closer to a bughive than I thought. Personally, I blame the Mormon church for this unacceptable level of retardation. For those of you not in the know, the LDS church collects a massive amount of revenue from its members. Each member pays 10% of their income as a tax to the church, so it makes federal levels of money. The church turned around and used this money like an investment firm - they own massive holdings and massive amounts of land but spend practically none of it benefiting its members. The retards flew too close to the sun, so now they have the Antichrist as a bedfellow: "Nooooooo Blackrock, don't take away our money! We can prove we're ESG complaint. We'll support the vax, diversity, and drag queen story hour. We'll support a spook from an organization that ran a child trafficking ring and our state's own Liz Cheney - anything to maintain our on-paper wealth!" It's been kinda funny to watch a religious institution choose money over divine inspiration and adopt the Antichrist's own talking points. I guess Mormons now know how Catholics feel. It's also been pretty interesting to see how quickly churches have been folding to the Antichrist.

 

[Psyduck]

Why does everyone seem so pessimistic? Republicans are pretty much confirmed to have the House and have a decent chance of gaining the Senate. I get this wasn't the super sweep you were dreaming of, but it's pretty much just a repeat of the 2018 midterms with the roles reversed. Republicans have the House and Democrats the Senate, look how much the Democrats fucked with Trump in his last two years, so why can't Republicans do the same? You just seem to be buying into the Democratic Hopium they keep pushing to try and motivate their base.

Not pessimistic per se, but i find it legit *scary* that almost half of the country, living in the circumstances we are in right now, brink of war with Russia, deep in shit in inflation, items on the shelves getting pricier, all this and more after coming out of what, a year or more of lockdowns...

...All of that happened, and these moddas still pulled for the same lever, all because they want to keep cooming. Think about it, ultimately, their bigger issues all come down to their genitals!

God help us all

 

[BONE_Buddy]

Grocers still have stock, electricity generally still runs as well as water, money isn't completely worthless (Venezuela-tier), and the internet still works so porn/consoom is still on the table.

Our cushy 1st world lives have really deadened not just the people you'd expect but each of us who believes that this is "mortifying" to not vote against, as to just how willing humans on average are to put up with a shitty government. Things will have to get much, much worse before you see a real "red tsunami" event.

Honestly, I don't expect it even then. The convertible populations is continually shrinking. Many of these people would vote Democrat even if it meant the death of their parents and children, perhaps especially so.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Thank God for Libertarians, am I right guys? Gotta love close-knit votes being swayed by a few idiots not liking the Republicans that much so they decide to hand all the seats to the party that hates them fundamentally.


Considering it's kind of obvious neither Biden nor Fetterman are in charge of their behaviour, I think we can determine that they know they're both puppets and don't really care about transparency or consistency; these geriatrics are being puppeteered and controlled by reviled retards who know they have no chance of winning elections, so instead they abuse the elderly then use them as a cover for their shitty policies

Treating libertarians like democrats treat blacks isn't going to get you anywhere lol

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Grocers still have stock, electricity generally still runs as well as water, money isn't completely worthless (Venezuela-tier), and the internet still works so porn/consoom is still on the table.

Our cushy 1st world lives have really deadened not just the people you'd expect but each of us who believes that this is "mortifying" to not vote against, as to just how willing humans on average are to put up with a shitty government. Things will have to get much, much worse before you see a real "red tsunami" event.



Point to me exactly which "abortion ban" you're talking about, if you would. Because to my knowledge literally no candidate was running on complete abolition of abortion. Nor has one.

Exactly my point. By the time the nigger cattle are ready to do anything the country will be beyond repair. There is no hope, collapse is inevtiable.

Well it's not inevitable, but we're not going to do anything to stop it.

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Some of you really need to go get some air.