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[Random Internet Person]

Rackets is mad on tonights stream.

The Red Ripple and Why Republicans Don't Win, Salt Over Depp Appeal, Trans Banned from Beauty

That Red wave didn't hit so hard when it came to shore. I'll share my thoughts on why they won't win and how to change it. The Media thinks Depp should just suck up his defamation loss to Amber Heard.

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Though it does show how much bullshit this nation will put up with, when it comes to ballot counting.

Something like this would be considered outright lunacy or riots in any other sane nation and rightfully so.

It’s like some people WANT the cold civil war to get red hot.

 

[Paul Pelosi's Boyfriend]

"One of the reasons that I will win is the voters in Arizona are tired of shoddy elections that are run by imbeciles. And that's going to change."

Rolling Stone rages about Kari Lake refusing to concede

GOP Candidates Are Alleging Fraud and Refusing to Concede – Rolling S…

archived 9 Nov 2022 13:04:24 UTC

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[MrJokerRager]

It’s like some people WANT the cold civil war to get red hot.

When the Civil War happens, it will be when nobody expects it.

Not when Tim Pool wants it.

Like the war in the Donbass after Maidan just exploding out of nowhere when Ukraine from 1991 till 2012 ish had deep political divisions but nobody would have guessed a Civil War would happen, that would later escalate even further as we have seen this year.

 

[Random Internet Person]

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Rolling Stone rages about Kari Lake refusing to concede

GOP Candidates Are Alleging Fraud and Refusing to Concede – Rolling S…

archived 9 Nov 2022 13:04:24 UTC

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Has it been projected yet that Kari lost?

 

[Potatoherder]

Has it been projected yet that Kari lost?

30% of the vote hasn't been counted yet.

 

[MirrorNoir]

It's all the more reason we need to expunge Cocaine Mitch from the party once and for all.

While Mitch has done a lot to warrant his removal, he survives purely by being the ultimate rules lawyer type son of a bitch and having the vindictive autism to push and push and push on shit like "don't fuck with the filibuster" and "don't try and pull a Bork on another one of our Supreme Court nominees" in a way that makes it a legit threat and something that you DO. NOT. WANT. TO. CROSS. HIM. OVER.

And while he hates Trump with a passion, on some level Mitch KNOWS he can't fucking wholesale stab Trump in the back Ceaser-style. If he wanted Trump truly destroyed, he would have gone full in on retroactively impeaching Trump instead of forcing the deal he made with Trump to effectively castrate him in his final days in office after Jan 6 in exchange for Mitch ensuring that the Senate trial failed to convict him. Even with DeSantis around, Mitch is probably secretly hedging his bets even as we speak in case Ron refuses the call of the Never Trumpers.

But going back to the first thing, Mitch is the best God-damn rules lawyer in the GOP's side in Congress and knows how to manipulate them even while in the minority to fuck shit up for the Democrats. Along with having an inherit vindictiveness that he gleefully puts on display whenever the Democrats try and pull bullshit like their threats to nuke the filibuster or falsely calling a GOP Supreme Court nominee a rapist to Bork them.

Removing Mitch means you have Lindsay Graham (quisling supreme) or Ted Cruz (who thinks he is as smart as Mitch but isn't) or someone like Rand Paul (who doesn't have the ability to instill fear to keep the GOP Senators in line) or a naive cuckservative rookie Senator like Eyepatch McCain (aka Dan Crenshaw) running the Senate GOP side.

 

[Jaimas]

While Mitch has done a lot to warrant his removal, he survives purely by being the ultimate rules lawyer type son of a bitch and having the vindictive autism to push and push and push on shit like "don't fuck with the filibuster" and "don't try and pull a Bork on another one of our Supreme Court nominees" in a way that makes it a legit threat and something that you DO. NOT. WANT. TO. CROSS. HIM. OVER.

And while he hates Trump with a passion, on some level Mitch KNOWS he can't fucking wholesale stab Trump in the back Ceaser-style. If he wanted Trump truly destroyed, he would have gone full in on retroactively impeaching Trump instead of forcing the deal he made with Trump to effectively castrate him in his final days in office after Jan 6 in exchange for Mitch ensuring that the Senate trial failed to convict him. Even with DeSantis around, Mitch is probably secretly hedging his bets even as we speak in case Ron refuses the call of the Never Trumpers.

But going back to the first thing, Mitch is the best God-damn rules lawyer in the GOP's side in Congress and knows how to manipulate them even while in the minority to fuck shit up for the Democrats. Along with having an inherit vindictiveness that he gleefully puts on display whenever the Democrats try and pull bullshit like their threats to nuke the filibuster or falsely calling a GOP Supreme Court nominee a rapist to Bork them.

Removing Mitch means you have Lindsay Graham (quisling supreme) or Ted Cruz (who thinks he is as smart as Mitch but isn't) or someone like Rand Paul (who doesn't have the ability to instill fear to keep the GOP Senators in line) or a naive cuckservative rookie Senator like Eyepatch McCain (aka Dan Crenshaw) running the Senate GOP side.

That is a fucking really good point.

 

[Samuel Hyde]

The WI gubernatorial election was legit, see above for why.

> Doubt
The incumbent advantage exists everywhere. Milwaukee was one of the last counties to finish their vote count. I'm not going to trust the niggers in Milwaukee and my opinion hasn't changed.

In WI, they put weed on the ballot again in the cities of Kenosha & Racine, MKE and Dane Counties, and a few municipalities up Nort. Yuuge support (duh). They did that last time when Evers won. It brings in the nog vote I would assume or at least provides that "cover" for fuckery. Let's see whether Evers makes any movement on it lmao. It's pure bait like the student loan forgiveness.

I didn't know they put weed on the ballot again. Good thing I left the state before I have to put up with that Godawful smell of weed.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Also, meet a libertarian:

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You know, why is that bit about medical care for infants born alive even on a ballot? Something about the the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness in an old document.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Paul Ryan publicly wanting Trump gone lol.

Jack Posobiec

BREAKING: Paul Ryan calls on the GOP to not nominate Trump in 2024 https://www.wisn.com/article/paul-ryan-calls-former-president-donald-trump-drag-on-our-ticket/41917724

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The pretty boy try hard who lost to Joe Biden at debating.

 

[Gehenna]

> Doubt
The incumbent advantage exists everywhere. Milwaukee was one of the last counties to finish their vote count. I'm not going to trust the niggers in Milwaukee and my opinion hasn't changed.

I never said trust the guys in Milwaukee, but the legislature in Wisconsin in conjunction with the Wisconsin Supreme Court absolutely gutted their ability to play funny with the numbers. And additionally, while the incumbent advantage exists everywhere it is -particularly- strong in Wisconsin. It is why, despite bad disapproval numbers and an absolute fuckton of money thrown at it, Scott Walker survived his recall election by a comfortable margin.

 

[Samuel Hyde]

I never said trust the guys in Milwaukee, but the legislature in Wisconsin in conjunction with the Wisconsin Supreme Court absolutely gutted their ability to play funny with the numbers. And additionally, while the incumbent advantage exists everywhere it is -particularly- strong in Wisconsin. It is why, despite bad disapproval numbers and an absolute fuckton of money thrown at it, Scott Walker survived his recall election by a comfortable margin.

And there's definitely no way they can cheat again - right? I mean those kind hearted liberals in Milwaukee wouldn't do something illegal or ignore rulings would they? No, definitely not. That would never happen. They wouldn't do something like shred ballots that voted for the GOP (this is more difficult to prove than made up ballots and much more challenging to prosecute).

You need to actually go to the trouble of proving that the incumbent advantage in Wisconsin is magically stronger than elsewhere.

 

[make_it_so]

Why does everyone seem so pessimistic? Republicans are pretty much confirmed to have the House and have a decent chance of gaining the Senate. I get this wasn't the super sweep you were dreaming of, but it's pretty much just a repeat of the 2018 midterms with the roles reversed. Republicans have the House and Democrats the Senate, look how much the Democrats fucked with Trump in his last two years, so why can't Republicans do the same? You just seem to be buying into the Democratic Hopium they keep pushing to try and motivate their base.

I think it's mainly because after all the bad shit that's happened since Simple Joe got fortified into the oval office - from inflation, the economy, the Afghan fuck up, to ongoing social issues like the child grooming in school/general tranny insanity, the J6 kangaroo court and the DOJ acting as the DNC's personal gestapo, to the pro-Ukraine chucklefucks clownshowing us into potentially WW3 - people were hoping for a massive repudiation of him, his party, and everything they stood for.

 

[Gehenna]

And there's definitely no way they can cheat again - right? I mean those kind hearted liberals in Milwaukee wouldn't do something illegal or ignore rulings would they? No, definitely not. That would never happen. They wouldn't do something like shred ballots that voted for the GOP (this is more difficult to prove than made up ballots and much more challenging to prosecute).

You need to actually go to the trouble of proving that the incumbent advantage in Wisconsin is magically stronger than elsewhere.

Stop strawmanning to try to make a point, it only makes you look infantile.

I find it amusing though you demand proof from me then claim several things that you have no proof of and would be much harder than you think. For example, shredding ballots. In Wisconsin, we use almost entirely electronic voting in one of two forms. One is entirely electronic the other uses a physical ballot which is immediately scanned in your presence. Can't shred what doesn't exist.

As for an example of the strong incumbent advantage, see our entire history of Supreme Court elections which is massively stronger than literally any other states.

The Incumbency Advantage in Wisconsin Supreme Court Elections - Smart Politics

Only seven Wisconsin Supreme Court incumbents have been defeated in state history across more than 120 contests.

smartpolitics.lib.umn.edu

 

[Lodoss Warrior]

No, we actually expected it. I explained in the other thread but will reiterate here. Wisconsinites dislike changing their politicians so long as they are personally viewed as having done well. Generally, presidential polling doesn't effect our elections much. Additionally, Evers has not stuck his dick in it anywhere near as hard as other Dem governors. His biggest boon was when the Wisconsin legislature defortified everything he stood aside and let it happen.

Good to know. It appears there are no term limits for Wisconsin governors: with your read of the population, does this mean that Evers could, if he wanted to, remain governor indefinitely?

 

[Gehenna]

Good to know. It appears there are no term limits for Wisconsin governors: with your read of the population, does this mean that Evers could, if he wanted to, remain governor indefinitely?

If he wanted to, yes. So long as he remains largely a centrist governor and doesn't do anything to piss off Wisconsinites. Largely the best way for him to do that is to rubberstamp whatever the very, very Red legislature wants.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

When the Civil War happens, it will be when nobody expects it.

Not when Tim Pool wants it.

Like the war in the Donbass after Maidan just exploding out of nowhere when Ukraine from 1991 till 2012 ish had deep political divisions but nobody would have guessed a Civil War would happen, that would later escalate even further as we have seen this year.

The US isn't some impoverished potatozone shithole. It's the the wealthiest country in the world, the home of the global reserve currency, the hub of consoomer culture, and the world's most powerful military including the world's largest nuclear arsenal. There will be no violent conflict in this country on the scale of Donbass. The conditions for that don't exist here and will almost certainly never exist without a revolutionary shift in the USA's geopolitical situation. The hottest this cold civil war will ever get is some small-scale guerilla insurgencies. And if it were possible to bet on this, I'd bet on those insurgencies being mostly left-wing.

 

[Gehenna]

Also, I know for a fact the Wisconsin Legislature is primed to tackle electronic voting, but are waiting until something more solidly linking the machines to voter fraud pops up. Nobody wants to go after them without good cause to express worry with the machines themselves.

This makes sense when one considers that there is a two-step system being used for election issues here in Wisconsin. The Democrats of course want no changes and so immediately use, waiting until you have clear clause lets the Republican supreme court tell the Democrats to fuck off and sets internal precedent using that clear example as a way to crack down further.

 

[Samuel Hyde]

Stop strawmanning to try to make a point, it only makes you look infantile.

I find it amusing though you demand proof from me then claim several things that you have no proof of and would be much harder than you think. For example, shredding ballots. In Wisconsin, we use almost entirely electronic voting in one of two forms. One is entirely electronic the other uses a physical ballot which is immediately scanned in your presence. Can't shred what doesn't exist.

As for an example of the strong incumbent advantage, see our entire history of Supreme Court elections which is massively stronger than literally any other states.

The Incumbency Advantage in Wisconsin Supreme Court Elections - Smart Politics

Only seven Wisconsin Supreme Court incumbents have been defeated in state history across more than 120 contests.

smartpolitics.lib.umn.edu

That citation doesn't prove what you're trying to say. All that article says is that judges win because of incumbent advantage. It doesn't prove that Wisconsin has a greater degree of incumbent advantage than say Michigan for comparison. Wisconsin doesn't have more of an incumbent advantage because of some magical reason.

I still stand by my statement.

BREAKING: Wisconsin Election Commission Announces They Will IGNORE New Ruling and Allow Clerks to Cure and Count Incomplete Mail-in Ballots ..Update: Rep Ramthun Responds

On Wednesday Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin voted to suspend a Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) rule that allowed state county clerks to fill in and correct ballots with incorrect or missing information so that they could be counted. This WEC rule has been in effect since 2016. It allows...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[northstar747]

@Gehenna do you think in 20 years one of the red letter media guys runs for governor