Why is Dooming so Popular on Kiwifarms? - The meta discussion

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The problem with the farms is that being here enough time makes you realize how powerless ordinary people are and how we are chained into following governments that are just aristocracy by any other name and gradually lose freedoms because the average niggercattle will sell all his rights for the tiniest feeling of comfort. It doesn't matter if it's right or left.

So whether things are going well or not you have no say in it whatsoever, you just need to hope the elites will leave you a tiny corner to live your life.

Other online communities usually are more of an echo chamber but on the farms people will eventually call out such faggotry. The alternative is just being ignorant on the subject and consoom, but then you wouldn't want to go to the farms in the first place.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

How can anybody be a Christian and not doompost? The Book of Revelation clearly spells out that the end of all things is not going to look nice. How can people still make 'progress' their religion when its 'gifts' are tranny horrorshows, modified viruses escaping labs, euthanasia chambers, jail time for shitposting on the Internet (even in private!) and so on? I'm guessing you were not one of those 'unpersoned' because they refused to be vaccinated? Worse things are yet to come.

 

[I (Don't) Have A Gun]

The Book of Revelation clearly spells out that the end of all things is not going to look nice.

If you're American it shouldn't be a problem, they believe in the Rapture right? It's just everyone else who has something to worry about.

 

[The Gene Genie]

It's easier to doom and gloom and capitulate all responsibility. I don't think this problem is limited to KF, but exists pretty much everywhere on the internet and elsewhere. I think a form of it exists even on the "other side" with their own apocalyptic visions of a planet on fire and mass extinction serving as their own "doomer" hyperfocus, where I'd say in "our side" it's more revolving around the decline of moral standards which have slipped increasingly in the last few years.

I think there's a certain feedback loop, and I would dare say that many people - here and elsewhere - enjoy this feeling in a strange way. They obviously will tell you they hate being depressed about the future, and dread the doom that looms over them, but I think at their core, there's a perverse pleasure taken in constantly reveling in it. And that doom mindset infects everything in the end. How can you enjoy music, if it's all niggers and jews? Same with media. Why bother going outside? Why bother doing anything at all? I think that last 'question' is ultimately where this thought process will end up at for many people who lack the will to power to simply push it aside.

For myself, I've come to accept that there are things I can change personally, and there are things that I can't. I have no institutional state power. I have no weight in cultural media. So why should I get worked up about these things? Someone will come along and call me a cuck or whatever, but really, what are you supposed to do? Spend the rest of your life in a siege mentality, increasingly paranoid and depressed and lacking any will to do anything at all? I know what I can change, and I know that at the core of it, I still have control over the rudder of my life, and that is enough for me not to slip into doomerdom.

 

[heathercho]

I see this on social media at times as well, but not as concentrated as here. It feels almost pointless at times to discuss politics with doomers because it’s the same variation of “everything is hopeless.” It’s nothing new to hear and it offers no solutions. The world I’d hate to live in would be one where everyone doomed at all times. Dooming doesn’t encourage action and typically involves waiting for someone or something else to solve the problems for them. Additionally, it’s demoralizing against anyone that does at least want to try something.

Working in Politics, I've gone through the cycle of believing in the ability to change things, to understanding the inner workings of the political system.
Political discourse feels like it's embedded in everything these days, because it is. It's not downstream from culture anymore, it is culture.

That being said, you very much only have the illusion of choice, lest you start a war.
Americans kept the right to have guns, in order to fight against a corrupt and unjust government. What the maker's of that stipulation didn't bank on, was the absolute monster power shift the world has undergone since WW2.

There is zero option to fight back against the US Government. I don't think people on the outside of politics really understand just how all powerful they are.
The illusion of choice, the illusion of power to the people is just that - it's illusion. The people who have the power in the U.S and moreover the world, aren't the front men they put out on the stumping trail. It's the people you don't see that hold the power.
When that centralized power holds all of the checks and balances in their deck, how do you fight against them? If you launch a legal fight, it's their judges you're being judged by. Merits need not apply.
Look how they reacted over Trump and Trump's picks for SCOTUS. Look how easily they were intimidated.
Who do you go to for justice when the justice is in the hands of the people you're fighting against?
You can't fight them. As Joe Biden said - public doesn't have F15s. So a civil war - whilst warranted, is impossible.

Most just tacitly accept this fate. Others go along to get along. Others don't want to know.

In reality, there is no partisanship. There is you, the people regardless of your beliefs or political leanings and the small class of people who hold all of the power.
Currently the wind is blowing in favor of those who align to the left. At the end of the day, they'll be spat out and disregarded just like everyone else.

Those who hold the power don't care about trans rights, niggers etc
The power is in the dissolution of societal mores and norms, division of the bonds that keep us strong and functioning and together.

It's not dooming to acknowledge this.
The real pushback is not going to be in voting. It will be in maintaining a sense of social order through community, church, traditions and being able to freely say you don't agree with it. That's truthfully the only path that is workable at this stage.

 

[L50LasPak]

Its the product of a society that obsessively promotes supposed positive thinking at every turn while ruthlessly suppressing anything considered remotely negative. When you create an environment like that, inevitably anywhere people speak their mind will become inundated with people saying negative shit because any sort of dissent is just straight up not allowed anywhere else.

Ironically as people are moving more towards doomerism as society is getting worse, I've been getting a little more optimistic. It seems like for the first time that I can remember this ugly plastic Barbie Doll society we live in is going to either collapse or at least suffer from serious internal issues that will translate into a whole lot of people I don't like getting hurt in the collateral damage.

I'm actually excited to the point where I'm starting to get irritated by all the larval doomers who make shoddy predictions and act all despondent because they're actually disappointed moderates who don't know how to handle their negative feelings at all. They need a reality check. Society and the human race at large demands that we take a lot of negative shit while also demanding we never say a damn word about it or else. As a doomer it is your duty to always retaliate with ten times the negativity that you get from on high. Do not take anyone else's shit lying down, do not let them sell you anything, do not stay quiet, do not stop. Ever. The fight only gets harder.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Because when all else is said and done, things are getting worse.

People here responding badly to it doesn’t change the truth of that statement.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

The problem with the farms is that being here enough time makes you realize how powerless ordinary people are and how we are chained into following governments that are just aristocracy by any other name and gradually lose freedoms because the average niggercattle will sell all his rights for the tiniest feeling of comfort. It doesn't matter if it's right or left.

Yup basically this.

Every opinion will be harassed by niggercattle to conform.

 

[Gar For Archer]

It’s a self-perpetuating cycle: doomers choke out productive discussion, so anyone who’s sane eventually just stops engaging, which results in threads becoming even more of a doomer hugbox, which drives away any remaining sane people until all you have left are a bunch of doomers jerking each other off.

 

[Meat Target]

There's a difference between accurately acknowledging bad news and irrational dooming.

There is still good in this world, and it is worth fighting for, even if all seems hopeless. A lot of people, and I do mean the majority of the population, needs to touch grass.

As others have mentioned, Kiwi Farms is where we observe some of the most depraved people on the planet. We are focusing on outliers of lunacy. I've come to cherish my time away from the Farms; Meatspace is where I see the light.

Even in light of, say, the disappointing midterm results, I will not surrender to Clown World. The blackpill is just surrendering with spite.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

 

[NickDigger]

It's why I stopped following the mid-terms Happening thread; the minute the Red Wave looked like it was a trickle, one post of a negative outlook and soon everyone followed about how it's hopeless, Democrats cheated again, everything has gone to shit.

Like the shut the fuck up, we get it, shit is bad but you blathering isn't going to help, and it's just performative theater to show off how upset you are. That's really what it is: performances for faggots to state the obvious so that it makes them look world weary.

I believe the west has moved into bureaucratic totalitarianism and it will move further in that direction as time goes on. It's a bit difficult to be happy with the death of the free world. But op is right that despair isn't going to help any either. Things will continue to decline, but we'll have to do the best we can.

The problem with the farms is that being here enough time makes you realize how powerless ordinary people are and how we are chained into following governments that are just aristocracy by any other name and gradually lose freedoms because the average niggercattle will sell all his rights for the tiniest feeling of comfort. It doesn't matter if it's right or left.

So whether things are going well or not you have no say in it whatsoever, you just need to hope the elites will leave you a tiny corner to live your life.

Other online communities usually are more of an echo chamber but on the farms people will eventually call out such faggotry. The alternative is just being ignorant on the subject and consoom, but then you wouldn't want to go to the farms in the first place.

Because when all else is said and done, things are getting worse.

People here responding badly to it doesn’t change the truth of that statement.

everything in this shitty world is meaningless. none of it has any value. we live in a jewish hellscape wasteland. everything that you see around you exists to generate profit, to extract money from you. and you, if you participate, exist to extract money from everything else around you. it's one, giant, parasitic system of leeches leeching off leeches, a system will inevitably collapse at any given moment.

every single day, i find myself praying that hitler would return, so that my life could have meaning, so that something resembling hope would once again light up the world. but it never happens. i become more and more convinced that the world literally ended in 1945 and that everything we see, the world such as it is, is merely a strange illusion, a vast graveyard, and we're all just ghosts that somehow forgot we died in 1945.

Like these niggers here. If any of these aren't a parody of doomers and niggerpillers then you all should unironically kill yourselves. You don't sound smart and you don't sound "hardened" by the rough times we're in (and that's really what you want, for people to think your artificially heightened nihilism will make you "tough", so some other mopping tard will look to you as some beacon of experienced wisdom).

Blind negativity is no different than blind optimism, you just bullshit everyone to feeling a certain way so they can't think objectively.

 

[Meat Target]

Like the shut the fuck up, we get it, shit is bad but you blathering isn't going to help, and it's just performative theater to show off how upset you are.

That's another thing. In spite of my above pep talk, you also have to accept that there are things beyond your control. That's not dooming, that's just acknowledging reality.

But you also need the courage and integrity to change what you can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

I think we could use some time away from the internet. It's been a long and dramatic election year. Don't check out entirely, but always remember to log off and take care of yourself. Touching grass, even for a day or two, will do wonders for your psyche.

 

[NickDigger]

That's another thing. In spite of my above pep talk, you also have to accept that there are things beyond your control. That's not dooming, that's just acknowledging reality.

But you also need the courage and integrity to change what you can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

I think we could use some time away from the internet. It's been a long and dramatic election year. Don't check out entirely, but always remember to log off and take care of yourself. Touching grass, even for a day or two, will do wonders for your psyche.

Of course, no one should not be vigilant, but vigilance isn't pissing and moaning about everything. I also agree that some tards need to log off from here and go to somewhere else or just fuck off the internet entirely. Using the internet as a negative feedback loop is the least productive use for something that gives information at a moment's notice.

If any of the rest of you have your health, some habitable living conditions, and a source of income, then you already have way less to whine about than someone who had none of those things and probably lives a more miserable existence than you ever will. Focus on what you can make better for yourself in these hard times.

Also guarantee some of the perpetual bitches are on some kind of medication. Reveling in misery when you can log off any time is not what a normal person does.

 

[Matt Damon]

I don't know if it's "dooming" per se, but I certainly have little expectation of substantial positive change in the future. I'd say there are two main reasons why:

1. It's not simply that things are getting worse, but essentially all the societal mechanisms that could conceivably be used to make them better are owned by the people who have a vested interest in things being bad for the average person. Not that that fact is anything unique to our time because:

2. Life has been pretty bad for most people most of the time throughout human history. Statistically speaking, most of the hopeful people who've ever lived never saw those hopes realized - they were born into a situation where the odds were stacked against them, lived their lives under harsh conditions, and died without ever seeing substantive change in the status quo. Expecting better than "doom" is expecting your life to be anomalous.

 

[JambledUpWords]

It's why I stopped following the mid-terms Happening thread; the minute the Red Wave looked like it was a trickle, one post of a negative outlook and soon everyone followed about how it's hopeless, Democrats cheated again, everything has gone to shit.

Like the shut the fuck up, we get it, shit is bad but you blathering isn't going to help, and it's just performative theater to show off how upset you are. That's really what it is: performances for faggots to state the obvious so that it makes them look world weary.





Like these niggers here. If any of these aren't a parody of doomers and niggerpillers then you all should unironically kill yourselves. You don't sound smart and you don't sound "hardened" by the rough times we're in (and that's really what you want, for people to think your artificially heightened nihilism will make you "tough", so some other mopping tard will look to you as some beacon of experienced wisdom).

Blind negativity is no different than blind optimism, you just bullshit everyone to feeling a certain way so they can't think objectively.

I do think blind pessimism is something that should be addressed more often. It doesn’t get as much acknowledgment because people see it as the “realistic” option. Excessive dooming isn’t realistic and it also blinds decent judgement and being proactive. It’s fine to acknowledge things aren’t the greatest, and it’s useful to use it to look for where improvements can be made. It’s useless if you just use it to wallow in pity and drag everyone else down with you.

 

[Meat Target]

Of course, no one should not be vigilant, but vigilance isn't pissing and moaning about everything. I also agree that some tards need to log off from here and go to somewhere else or just fuck off the internet entirely. Using the internet as a negative feedback loop is the least productive use for something that gives information at a moment's notice.

If any of the rest of you have your health, some habitable living conditions, and a source of income, then you already have way less to whine about than someone who had none of those things and probably lives a more miserable existence than you ever will. Focus on what you can make better for yourself in these hard times.

This may depend on where you live, but I find myself avoiding dooming by asking myself this:

"how often do I, in my personal life, have to deal with the forces of Clown World? What have they done to directly harm me or my loved ones?"

I'm not saying "bury your head in the sand". It might not be your problem (right now), but it could be later. I'm saying keep things in perspective. There are zillions of terminally-online retards; if it weren't for the screen in your pocket, you may not even know of their existence.

Life has been pretty bad for most people most of the time throughout human history. Statistically speaking, most of the hopeful people who've ever lived never saw those hopes realized - they were born into a situation where the odds were stacked against them, lived their lives under harsh conditions, and died without ever seeing substantive change in the status quo. Expecting better than "doom" is expecting your life to be anomalous.

We are too used to instant gratification in Current Year. We want our Thousand Year Reich, and we want it NOW! Or else, the Bad People win forever!

Moses never entered the Promised Land. Cathedrals were built over the span of generations. The Founding Fathers ordained the Constitution "for ourselves and our posterity." Authors like H.P. Lovecraft and John Kennedy Toole passed away before they became popular.

We have to re-learn the art of playing the long game. Sow seeds and plant trees that you will not see fully grown in your lifetime.

 

[NickDigger]

I don't know if it's "dooming" per se, but I certainly have little expectation of substantial positive change in the future. I'd say there are two main reasons why:

1. It's not simply that things are getting worse, but essentially all the societal mechanisms that could conceivably be used to make them better are owned by the people who have a vested interest in things being bad for the average person. Not that that fact is anything unique to our time because:

2. Life has been pretty bad for most people most of the time throughout human history. Statistically speaking, most of the hopeful people who've ever lived never saw those hopes realized - they were born into a situation where the odds were stacked against them, lived their lives under harsh conditions, and died without ever seeing substantive change in the status quo. Expecting better than "doom" is expecting your life to be anomalous.

And if you have those realizations then you should have already learned how to circumnavigate those long standing societal issues and adapt for your own well-being instead of being mired in your own, grade-school realization that "society is....... LE SHITTY".

Doomposters/niggerpillers also often sound like children under the 25 who don't have fully developed brains and are startled that the world is uncompromising and people everywhere have the capacity to be shitty. Pro-tip: the people/forces making things harder for everyone else bank on you being a whiner who can't even improve their lot in life.

We are too used to instant gratification in Current Year. We want our Thousand Year Reich, and we want it NOW! Or else, the Bad People win forever!

Reminds me of the tards on imageboards who were shocked after Trump got elected he didn't declare he was going to bomb Israel and murder every border jumper on inauguration day.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

It's why I stopped following the mid-terms Happening thread; the minute the Red Wave looked like it was a trickle, one post of a negative outlook and soon everyone followed about how it's hopeless, Democrats cheated again, everything has gone to shit.

Like the shut the fuck up, we get it, shit is bad but you blathering isn't going to help, and it's just performative theater to show off how upset you are. That's really what it is: performances for faggots to state the obvious so that it makes them look world weary.





Like these niggers here. If any of these aren't a parody of doomers and niggerpillers then you all should unironically kill yourselves. You don't sound smart and you don't sound "hardened" by the rough times we're in (and that's really what you want, for people to think your artificially heightened nihilism will make you "tough", so some other mopping tard will look to you as some beacon of experienced wisdom).

Blind negativity is no different than blind optimism, you just bullshit everyone to feeling a certain way so they can't think objectively.

So I should kill myself for acknowledging the reality of the situation, and the fact that one of the Right's most profound failings is that they tend to respond to this reality in very maladaptive ways; which in turn leads to them never putting things in place to fix the goddamn problems? I think you're reading far too much into people's posts.

 

[Meat Target]

So I should kill myself for acknowledging the reality of the situation, and the fact that one of the Right's most profound failings is that they tend to respond to this reality in very maladaptive ways; which in turn leads to them never putting things in place to fix the goddamn problems? I think you're reading far too much into people's posts.

I think you need to calm the fuck down. This, too, shall pass.

 

[JambledUpWords]

We are too used to instant gratification in Current Year. We want our Thousand Year Reich, and we want it NOW! Or else, the Bad People win forever!

I think this is one of the pitfalls of the age of the internet. News and such travels a lot faster than it used to, and it has lowered attention spans as well. Expecting everything to be fixed in just one or two years (or even a few months at times) is isn’t how the real world works and it makes people easily disappointed. There are smaller things that definitely could be fixed in a short time, but expecting things to suddenly change on a large scale isn’t common. People need to get more used to seeing major problems taking years to actually fix again. A lot of people forget, but with the Founding Fathers, we were under the Articles of Confederation first until Shay’s Rebellion happened. It then led to the creation of the Constitution and that took a few more years to ratify. Those guys saw failure first before success, and it was a multi-year long fix.