Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Ukraine had the choice to bomb the Donbass for nearly a decade straight.

Armed seperatists backed by Russia are not innocent civilians.

 

[Not At All A Lizard]

At best, some politicans will use it to push some extra packages through if they want to ("Look how this is our war too omigosh that could've been a nuke").

Thinking all of NATO would ever invade over this is silly. NATO loves having more excuses to help out, but especially if it's in ways that lets them use Ukie soldiers to hold the guns and take the bullets. Fighting Russia is largely the point of NATO, if our slavic friends can fight and win their war for them then everyone wins (except for the dead slavs).

Even financially, this stuff has cost the west some money, but considering it's war with Russia it's basically a steal. As long as the Ukies win, I guess. Whatever winning means exactly.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Ukraine had the choice to bomb the Donbass for nearly a decade straight. They also had the choice to allow the burgers to enter their asses in 2014 with their gay coup. Can you seriously think before you post? Anyone can play that game and I guarantee you the "who wronged who" game doesn't end in the Ukrainiens' favour.

Oh no, Donbabwe again. Kremlin definitely wasn't conducting gay ops there following annexation of Crimea, fostering separatism, flooding the region with weapons and mercs when Putin realized that his control over Ukraine was slipping since his fuckboy Yanukovych was ousted. No, never, no siree!

There's no two ways about it. Russia wronged Ukraine by violating their borders, it's rather simple. Maybe not for a gigabrain like you, but that's your problem.
You changed subject, by the way. Don't think I didn't notice.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I expect the cycle to include another piece of evidence that it was Ukrainian, then someone else points to something that suggests Russian origin, and in the end it is revealed it was actually Brazil.

Yeah Ukraine should have just let Girkin and his merry band on nutcases just seize government buildings.

Girkin did nothing wrong. All this kvetching about him sounds just like liberals talking about January 6th.

Also, reactions from other European nations starting to come in:

 

[LaxerBRO]

So it's pretty much confirmed that the missile was fired by drunk Ukrainians.

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Sorry, I don't believe that for a second.

If people still believe this after the Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve lies then there is no hope.

What were said Ukrainian Air Defense missiles targeting?

Where were said missiles statione

Looking at the position of the area hit to the position of Ukraine it seems unlikely that Ukraine had reason to fire interceptor missiles as their was very little time and geography for any sort of intercept.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Zelensky jumped the gun, you're not wrong. Trying to double down until there's definitive proof is a bad look, should be prepared to own it if it ends up being theirs.
Russia isn't stupid enough to poke NATO like this, nor is Ukraine to risk losing one of their biggest supporters with such a gay op. Timing is also important, it happened as Ukraine was facing Russian missile barrage, so it was most likely a direct consequence of that, and both aforementioned options fit these conditions perfectly.
No need to overcomplicate it.

Yeah but Russian rockets are shit and even if they were great, tech can always malfunction, and we need to preemptively tame down the hysteria for such potential events, last thing we want is politically important people seething and demanding vengeance online in front of millions of people.
People need to be chill, especially given the risks. Demanding vengeance and "a tough response" and beating your chest doesn't have any positive effects. Accidents happen, everyone chill, tragic deaths, yes, let's make sure there won't be more.
Poland should definitely get some proper air defenses at the border. With Iron Dome systems in place we would not have had this happen. A war is close, gotta be prepared.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Sorry, I don't believe that for a second.

If people still believe this after the Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve lies then there is no hope.

What were said Ukrainian Air Defense missiles targeting?

Where were said missiles statione

Looking at the position of the area hit to the position of Ukraine it seems unlikely that Ukraine had reason to fire interceptor missiles as their was very little time and geography for any sort of intercept.

Again, Taras and Mykola who were manning the S-300 system most likely just got drunk and got startled by a flock of birds or by hearing a moped down the street, then started shooting off missiles indiscriminately. Who says there even was a Russian missile in the first place?

 

[LikeRivenIRL]

Oh no, Donbabwe again. Kremlin definitely wasn't conducting gay ops there following annexation of Crimea, fostering separatism, flooding the region with weapons and mercs when Putin realized that his control over Ukraine was slipping since his fuckboy Yanukovych was ousted. No, never, no siree!

There's no two ways about it. Russia wronged Ukraine by violating their borders, it's rather simple. Maybe not for a gigabrain like you, but that's your problem.
You changed subject, by the way. Don't think I didn't notice.

Nigga what subject? This is the Russia-Ukraine war thread. That is the subject. Accusing me of changing the subject just because you don't like the reality of context. Pffft. It's called a discussion. Who the fuck let you out of the ward? Go back and ask the nurse for your child-size meds.
I would say you are being deliberately obtuse, because part of me doesn't like to recognise that such severely retarded cases exist, but...here we are I guess!

 

[LaxerBRO]

Again, Taras and Mykola who were manning the S-300 system most likely just got drunk and got startled by a flock of birds or by hearing a moped down the street, then started shooting off missiles indiscriminately. Who says there even was a Russian missile in the first place?

What were they targeting?

If a Russian missile did exist then it could have been fired by a Bear bomber

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

Yeah, Russia hasn't been bombing civilian infrastructure en masse since even before it had to scoot across the river or anything. And it's totally not buttmad about Crimea being in prime location to be slowly squeezed or anything because its best-trained, best-equipped soldiers had to cut and run owing to the fact that it had no trains or even military trucks to supply their position - this well after the largest transfer of military kit between hostile countries in history happened after all the greenhorns started sprinting away a few months back.

It's good that this was a Uke misfire. Escalation is in no-one's interests, and western powers are starting to show wariness with the cost of provisions, especially as the winter approaches. With Russia forced to asking the Norks and the Persians for a little help because it's running out of shit to throw, there's definite murmurs of trying to press the country into a ceasefire, even if everyone knows it won't last. Putin sortof has to realize that, in a country which was already demographically fucked, throwing a whole bunch of young men into the meat grinder has all but ensured demographic and economic collapse in the coming decades to a gross scale. What's he got to lose if he takes some time to resupply and tries again in a few years?

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

What were they targeting?

If a Russian missile did exist then it could have been fired by a Bear bomber

Who says they were targeting anything? Ukraine is on its 12th wave of conscription, all the able-bodied men ran off long ago, so most likely the conscripts were either too old, too drunk, or too blind for the job in the first place. Another possibility is that the S-300 system was manned by foreign mercenaries, which could lead to a language barrier. Maybe their commanding officer asked them for a smoke and they thought he said "fire the missiles." Anything can happen in Banderastan nowadays.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

Nigga what subject? This is the Russia-Ukraine war thread. That is the subject. Accusing me of changing the subject just because you don't like the reality of context. Pffft. It's called a discussion. Who the fuck let you out of the ward? Go back and ask the nurse for your child-size meds.
I would say you are being deliberately obtuse, because part of me doesn't like to recognise that such severely retarded cases exist, but...here we are I guess!

The same subject we've been discussing for the last few pages, that being the recent Russian missile strike on Ukraine. What you did is called whataboutery, that's not a discussion, it's rhetoric.
Not that hard to follow the thread.

 

[smeckt]

Lots of cope from ukrainian side today

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Lots of cope from ukrainian side today

Must be difficult trying to switch gears from "ARTICLE 5 NOW" to "Ukraine was the real victim here, we need to forgive and forget."

Did Ukraine apologize to Poland yet, by the way?

 

[St.Davis]

Doesn't change the fact that if it's indeed true, this unfortunate accident would be a result of Ukraine defending itself from the Russian attack. Russia had a choice in the matter, Ukraine didn't. Like how Rittenhouse had to shoot Pedobaum.

I feel like that's a bit of a false equivalence. A closer comparison might have been if Rittenhouse had shot a bystander while being attacked by Pedobaum, which would concievably still be Rosenbaum et al's fault, but a little murkier.
Though even then I'm still of the opinion that the Russia-Ukraine war is more complex than "Mean Russia bullying Ukraine for no reason".

 

[teriyakiburns]

Though even then I'm still of the opinion that the Russia-Ukraine war is more complex than "Mean Russia bullying Ukraine for no reason".

Of course it's not for no reason. Russia sees Ukraine as its toy to control as it wishes and is throwing a shitfit, because Ukraine dared to throw out its puppet ruler. Putin wants it to return to being a Russian vassal. It's no more complicated than that.

 

[A-Stump]

>18 hours ago
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Well I'm sure glad they combat misinformation

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I feel like that's a bit of a false equivalence. A closer comparison might have been if Rittenhouse had shot a bystander while being attacked by Pedobaum, which would concievably still be Rosenbaum et al's fault, but a little murkier.
Though even then I'm still of the opinion that the Russia-Ukraine war is more complex than "Mean Russia bullying Ukraine for no reason".

Well, the situation is similar, but the outcome is different. Rittenhouse had Smith & Wesson M&P15 and one Pedobaum, Ukraine had S-300 and at least 85 Pedobaums charging at them at the speed of anywhere between Mach 0.58 and Mach 0.78.

 

[Hyro]

I feel like that's a bit of a false equivalence. A closer comparison might have been if Rittenhouse had shot a bystander while being attacked by Pedobaum, which would concievably still be Rosenbaum et al's fault, but a little murkier.
Though even then I'm still of the opinion that the Russia-Ukraine war is more complex than "Mean Russia bullying Ukraine for no reason".

I mean it's not for no reason, they obviously want all the resources in Donbabwe since they don't want a competing banana economy near by, but that's like saying America was justified going into Iraq because America needed to maintain it's petrodollar.

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I mean it's not for no reason, they obviously want all the resources in Donbabwe since they don't want a competing banana economy near by, but that's like saying America was justified going into Iraq because America needed to maintain it's petrodollar.

America is wrong for that, but Russia good because America did bad, so bad is good now. Yes?