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Silence, woman
Oh boy more news from Telegram. About as trustworthy as random assholes on Twitter or leddit. Are the Ukranians Nazis who want to gas the kikes or Zionists who want to lavish the kikes? Can you ziggers make up your minds? As for killing personnel feigning surrender, there is a reason why perdify is a LOAC violation. Combatants are not forced to take unreasonable risks once a surrender is feigned. Take it up with the Russian military's obsession with Stanlinist Russia and the image of retreat or surrender being nothing but criminal.Even if one soldier shot at the Ukrainians, it doesn't justify killing the nineteen others who surrendered.
Here's something a lot of people missed while sperging over a missile nothingburger:
"In Lisichansk direction, the personnel of 81-st Airmobile Brigade of the AFU that operate in Belogorovka (Lugansk People's Republic) refused to subordinate to the command and to fulfill combat tasks due to large casualties and low morale. The militants sent to Belogorovka from one of the Ukrainian Nazi groups executed by shooting 5 Ukrainian servicemen to impose order and to intimidate the Brigade's personnel".
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This was reported by the Russia's MoD Wednesday but its been circulating in Ukrainian Telegram. Here's another from a private channel (so I can't link).
"Another scandal erupted in Ukraine over the fact that the command of the 81st Independent Airmobile Brigade (IAB) of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is hiding information about the killed, wounded and missing servicemen from their relatives. Relatives of the elite 81st IAB of the AFU are sounding the alarm because the brigade’s command refuses to divulge data on the dead, wounded and missing.(an entire investigation into the episode was published online in Ukrainian).
The 81st IAB became known all over Ukraine due to efforts of the Ukrainian media. “They [the command] resolutely refuse to show the real situation in the brigade, where the relatives of the fighters do not stop looking for their soldiers,” the text notes.
The problem of the missing in the brigade is “no one is solving it, and Kiev continues to gloss over it. Relatives of the servicemen are forced to appeal to all the authorities they know: the military enlistment offices, the presidential office, the military unit’s permanent deployment point (PDP). The military registration and enlistment offices, according to the investigation, advise them to contact the brigade, and the military unit’s PDP informs relatives that no information is available. When relatives manage to get through to the brigade’s service number, the reply is that they are asked to give the source of the number, even though it is an official number.
The brigade’s command monitors the relatives’ search activities on the Internet to “discourage” them, issuing blasphemous advice over and over again. “Go to church, put a candle”, “No one will tell you anything” or “Sit quietly, don’t write to anyone on social media”, the brigade commanders tell relatives. The text of the investigation closes with the words that a dead or missing serviceman is a waste of time for the brigade leadership. Criminal Silence has become the real face of the modern Ukrainian authorities and the AFU command.Earlier, the Russian Defence Ministry reported that Russian fire strikes on positions of the 81st Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU killed up to 20 soldiers and wounded more than 50 near the village of Krasnopolye ".
So clearly, there's been a high casualty rate and its affected unit capabilities and cohesion, but they're expected to perform nonetheless. When they balk, the Ukronazis are sent out to enforce Kiev's edicts, and there's talk they execute those who do not comply.
This is what all the little Nazi larpers on here failed, or refuse, to grasp; Ukraine's Nazi goons are just a terror squad used against her own people, to terrorize them into compliance. Sort of a beefed up Antifa goon squad, but with real weapons, schizos criminals, and nutters given free reign, lots of money, gibs, media attention and preferential treatment as long as they force the general population into compliance. This isn't at ll novel or new; ISIS goons were known for engaging in the the exact same tactics. The general Ukrainian population seems fed up with these faggots, so while I don't expect them to suddenly run over and welcome Russia, there's going to be serious pushback from the general population.
I have a feeling this may be coming soon to America. Keep an eye out for any "militias", left or right wing, that get a lot adoring and fawning articles written about them. Ukraine is nothing more than a proving ground for the disgusting filth in charge of America, who would have absolutely no qualms over arming a bunch of Nazi larpers and giving them carte blanche to keep the population in check.
Thank the Lord for all those unregistered weapons lost in boating accidents.
I don't know what you guys are talking about, I still don't see a rifle in his hands. Maybe a walkie talkie. Or maybe he was holding a box of candy that he was going to give as a gift to the Ukrainian soldiers.In your fantasy world, the Ukranians pre-planned to execute these faggots, told the camera man to shake his camera up after several people crawl out from hiding, knowing at least one wouldn't put their hands in the air and would do their best to look like they were holding a rifle at the hip. Then the Ukranians would publish the video on the internet so more Russian faggots like you would use their expert detective skills they acquired at the meth den to uncover the facts, rather then just not publish a video at all.
Ok, first try and find anything about it anymore, as they are literally trying to memory hole it. Then, watch the news reports at the time and watch them softball the entire thing.Literally who says this? I've never seen anyone say Afghanistan was anything but a failure.
Sure as fuck does.Even if one soldier shot at the Ukrainians, it doesn't justify killing the nineteen others who surrendered.
Some retard popping off invalidates (1) and (3). It's is perfectly legal to assume the entire unit is not surrendering at that point.(1) Have surrendering persons engaged in positive acts that clearly indicate that they are outside the theatre of war and therefore no longer represent a threat to the opposing force? (2) Is it reasonable in the circumstances for the opposing force to discern the offer of surrender? (3) Have the persons surrendering unconditionally submitted themselves to the authority of their captor?
Nah, Russia can continue to lose until the 1991 borders are restoredThe war is, and should be, over at this point. All sides have gotten something out of it and can walk away. Ukraine didn't have its entire regime changed in the first week after the Russian's failed to hold Antanov Airport, and then they got back Kharkiv. The Russian's have their land bridge to the Crimea. The West demonstrated unity against a strategic opponent despite the economic blowback and got to see its toys actually used against the Russians.
There's nothing left for Ukraine for a long time except a very cold winter and a loss of their gains and momentum.
Cede the areas to Russia that they no longer control, since that's the defacto state of affairs anyway it might as-well just be formalised. Achieve the final step for the canonisation of Saint Zelensky in some fashion since his "all or nothing" rhetoric has long since served its purpose and will not only hold-back a final settlement. Then settle in for a long cold war.
One ≠ NineteenSure as fuck does.
Some retard popping off invalidates (1) and (3). It's is perfectly legal to assume the entire unit is not surrendering at that point.
Why is killing prisoners okay? Is this the hill you want to die on? Ukraine killing POWs kinda makes them the baddies which then means the heckin' wholesome Ruskies are the goodiesSure as fuck does.
Some retard popping off invalidates (1) and (3). It's is perfectly legal to assume the entire unit is not surrendering at that point.
Wasn’t Putin himself KGB back in the day?Of all the retarded shit @Feline Supremacist says, the notion that Russia isn't literally being run by KGB spooks and their direct descendants is by far the worst.
Siloviki junta is the reason Russia couldn't become a decent country for the people. Fucking inhuman despots bred for terrorising their own are at the helm, worst the negative selection could produce, the kind that would smash someone's head with a sledgehammer and think it's funny.
What was the agreement that screwed Ukraine out of nukes?Anyways, If Ukraine would have respected the Minsk agreements none of this would have happened.
I think we can all agree on that.
Isn’t that every war though?Feels like this war is really going out of its way to make every single one of us look like a retard at least once.
Okay, what’s the next interesting thing that CAN happen?>Something actually interesting happens
>Thread gets good with actual discussion
>Day or two later thread dies down and just becomes an internet slap fight about Russia and Ukraine, with events and discussion of the actual war being in the background.
>Rinse and repeat as needed
We've been at this like clockwork since the Kyiv withdrawl.
Is this some lab experiment to create Russia supporters in this conflict?
The Russians are coming quick hide under your bed the russians are coming.Hungary and Orban score a win against the degenerate EU bureaucrats who wanted to blackmail Hungary to accept fags and trannies and "share the burden" of nignogs by not releasing its funds. Orban threatened to instead veto the help that will go to Ukraine, and it looks like even with copious amounts of seething, the EU will give Hungary its share of cash to build anti-troon propaganda and border fences, so all is great, Ukraine gets ca$$$h, Hungary gets ca$$$h, and the west gets nothing.
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There are also great news about East/Central EU cooperation on keeping nignogs away, because "EU measures have failed", and might even include deportations. Hear that Turkey?
This is the wae. We will convince the West to rebecome normal.
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Some good news finally. Hungary can keep Muslim niggers out of their country and Ukraine can kill muslim niggers that invaded theirs.Hungary and Orban score a win against the degenerate EU bureaucrats who wanted to blackmail Hungary to accept fags and trannies and "share the burden" of nignogs by not releasing its funds. Orban threatened to instead veto the help that will go to Ukraine, and it looks like even with copious amounts of seething, the EU will give Hungary its share of cash to build anti-troon propaganda and border fences, so all is great, Ukraine gets ca$$$h, Hungary gets ca$$$h, and the west gets nothing.
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There are also great news about East/Central EU cooperation on keeping nignogs away, because "EU measures have failed", and might even include deportations. Hear that Turkey?
This is the wae. We will convince the West to rebecome normal.
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It's accepted military law. Vatnik rambo was responsible for the deaths of his countrymen according to LOAC and Article 37 of the Geneva convention:W
Why is killing prisoners okay? Is this the hill you want to die on? Ukraine killing POWs kinda makes them the baddies which then means the heckin' wholesome Ruskies are the goodies
As far as any reddit fag is concerned this is just like in the yearly holocaust movie or PRC funded movie about the Pacific when the hecking Nazis/Japs lure the good guy American/Anglo/Communists into a hecking trap using a dirty trick but they all die in the end.1. It is prohibited to kill, injure or capture an adversary by resort to perfidy. Acts inviting the confidence of an adversary to lead him to believe that he is entitled to, or is obliged to accord, protection under the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, with intent to betray that confidence, shall constitute perfidy. The following acts are examples of perfidy:
(a) The feigning of an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or of a surrender;
Legal technicality aside, would you say the Ukrainians killed their captives because they sincerely believed they were a threat they couldn't manage in any other way, or as an act of revenge?Some good news finally. Hungary can keep Muslim niggers out of their country and Ukraine can kill muslim niggers that invaded theirs.
It's accepted military law. Vatnik rambo was responsible for the deaths of his countrymen according to LOAC and Article 37 of the Geneva convention:
Article 37. – Prohibition of perfidy
As far as any reddit fag is concerned this is just like in the yearly holocaust movie or PRC funded movie about the Pacific when the hecking Nazis/Japs lure the good guy American/Anglo/Communists into a hecking trap using a dirty trick but they all die in the end.
If you're in a 4 man team, holding up 10+ enemy combatants and one of them got froggy and shot one of your guys so now you're down to 3 to 9+ (2 to 9+ as at least one of your own now has to administer SABC and try to stop your casualty from bleeding out) it's doubtful you can control a large group near firearms they ditched earlier or potentially concealing firearms or grenades. If it was Americans vs Iraqis or even a Russian fireteam vs a Ukr squad I would blame Mr. guy who opened fire during a surrender as the person who was responsible for the squad's deaths. It's why this type of action is discouraged in Geneva protocols.Legal technicality aside, would you say the Ukrainians killed their captives because they sincerely believed they were a threat they couldn't manage in any other way, or as an act of revenge?
Highly doubt it's a 4 man team, otherwise 20 armed men would not have surrendered to them. The Ukrainians clearly had numerical superiority as they seemed relaxed enough to start making videos. Now cut the shit and answer the question.If you're in a 4 man team, holding up 10+ enemy combatants and one of them got froggy and shot one of your guys so now you're down to 3 to 9+ (2 to 9+ as at least one of your own now has to administer SABC and try to stop your casualty from bleeding out) it's doubtful you can control a large group near firearms they ditched earlier or potentially concealing firearms or grenades. If it was Americans vs Iraqis or even a Russian fireteam vs a Ukr squad I would blame Mr. guy who opened fire during a surrender as the person who was responsible for the squad's deaths. It's why this type of action is discouraged in Geneva protocols.
See, its not that bad shit doesn't happen in war because of course it does, and it always has, all throughout human history; its the constant low IQ takes of those that fall for propaganda demonizing the other side and elevating their own. Sometimes its subtle, like articles put out by the US military under the guise of a think tank, or overt, like the MSM does when they loop skewed news bits over and over again, right out of Brave New World; they insert it in capeshit and movies. All countries do this, some better than others. I don't single out Russian media because I don't view it but they certainly have their own propaganda that's as sophisticated and subtle when it needs to be, a cudgel when necessary.W
Why is killing prisoners okay? Is this the hill you want to die on? Ukraine killing POWs kinda makes them the baddies which then means the heckin' wholesome Ruskies are the goodies