We know what the burger point of pain is. They spent 2 trillion in Iraq over 5 years and 2 trillion in Afghanistan over a decade.
And countless issues regarding vets and their families. The burger point of pain was the most pro-war group getting burned out from the war not in a financial sense but right at home, coinciding with a Democrat president and scandals like Wikileaks.
Current burn rate in Ukraine, including EU and UK spend, is running twice that of Iraq.
Which doesn't matter. Russia isn't an Islamic terror cell. They can't disband and reform or go underground and run their operations for pennies a day. The issue with a burn rate in Iraq is that it costs millions of dollars a day to make sure an inbred retard isn't blowing himself up in a crowded market. On the other hand, Russia has to supply and feed hundreds of thousands of troops along with running an entire country. Your burn rate argument makes no sense when it's Russia that's spending a greater portion of their GDP in the war than the West is.
Russia isn't a western nation ruled by women and populated by diversity. Also Ukraine isn't a far away nation across an ocean, it's their next door neighbour and has a large population of ethnic Russians.
Russia can't even beat their next door neighbor, and them not having women in charge isn't exactly winning the war, is it?
Russia isn't going to retreat because it literally can't. It would be like England invading Scotland or the US invading Canada.
Friendly reminder that countries that have had wars with their neighbors for centuries still exist to this day.
If things don't go well, fine we'll bring the boys home and spend a decade coping about how we really won akshually. No harm no foul and no real impact on the American population apart from the idiots who went.
The problem is that insisting on a semblance of victory will break Russia. It's not the matter of being an adventure or "no harm no foul", it's that doubling down will only bring Russia closer to collapse. Even if it were a collapse. Would you rather have people collectively figuring out the project didn't work and just fade into the night like the Soviet Union, or the powder keg detonating under the pressure of economic issues, massive death counts and racial conflict over who's carrying the burden of the war?
Russia and Ukraine are in a fight to the death, Putin was deluded to think he could win a limited war against an out matched enemy. I imagine the blinkers came off when the US started sending their personnel to man the rocket artillery and the Brits blew up Nord Stream.
There was no limited war as they came out swinging with their Aliexpress version of Shock & Awe on day one, and the American servicemen is literally a cope. The literal meaning of the expression "coping mechanism", the vatnik mind will explode upon realizing the subhuman Ukrainian was able to beat the mighty Russian. So they came up with the tale of the Black American BVLL causing the Balakliia retreat and showing off Malcom Nance on TV as if he's not a press officer or some gay shit like that.
This war will end with the complete defeat of either Russia or Ukraine. Those arguing for the former need to explain how exactly how that's going to happen because again they're not going to give up and they're sure as fuck not going to withdraw.
Then I guess the dissident right and tankies will fight Ukraine to the last Russian.
Why can American 'people' not go a single sentence without mentioning gay sex?
Apply the same standard to vatniks and ru-shills and trannies. Bonus points if they post the picture of that surgeon general or whatever.