Culture ‘She Said’ Bombs: Why Aren’t Awards Season Movies Resonating With Audiences? - Make Movies Fun Again

Quentin Tarantino has been blunt about the state of the movie business. On a recent episode of the director’s “Video Archives Podcast,” the man who helped usher in the golden age of indie film with “Pulp Fiction” declared this to be “the worst era in Hollywood history” matched only by other such nadirs as the 1950s and ’80s.

“The good thing about being in a bad era of Hollywood cinema is (the films) that don’t conform [are] the ones that stand out from the pack,” he added.

And that may be the case. The problem is that this crop of non-conformists may no longer have a commercial reason for existing, at least as theatrical propositions.

Take “She Said,” a sturdily made look at the pair of crusading New York Times journalists who helped expose Harvey Weinstein’s decades of sexual harassment and assault. The film earned strong reviews and awards buzz, but the Universal Pictures release bombed last weekend, opening to a dismal $2.2 million from 2,022 theaters. That ranks as one of the worst results for a major studio release in history.

Part of the problem, observers say, is that the movie’s searing look at an abuse of power may not have been what audiences were hoping to see at a time when the headlines are — let’s be honest — pretty bleak. From Ukraine to the economy, there’s a lot to be upset about.

“It’s a tough sell,” says Shawn Robbins, chief analyst with Boxoffice Pro. “People are looking for escapism right now. Even adult audiences are looking for something that takes them away from reality.”

“She Said” has a lot of company when it comes to well-reviewed movies that have collapsed on the shoals of audience indifference. One by one, this year’s crop of Oscar contenders have flopped or, at best, under-performed. There’s “Tár,” a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music that has eked out $4.9 million in seven weeks of release; “Armageddon Time,” a coming-of-age film that has only managed to generate $1.8 million after a month in theaters; and “Triangle of Sadness,” a satirical look at the one-percent that has crawled to a $3.8 million gross since opening in mid-October. “The Banshees of Inisherin” and “Till” have done slightly better, earning $7.1 million and $8.5 million, respectively, but their results aren’t exactly igniting the box office; they both will likely struggle to turn a profit in their theatrical runs.

“Across the board, it’s a scary time for prestige films,” says Jeff Bock, an analyst with Exhibitor Relations. “We may be witnessing a sea change in cinema. Ultimately, audiences decide what gets made and right now audiences aren’t choosing to watch these films in theaters.”

Privately, studio executives point to a number of culprits. They say this year’s awards films are too arty, too depressing, too lacking in A-list talent to convince crowds to show up. And they note that there have been success stories earlier in the year — notably “Elvis,” which was aimed at adults and earned an impressive $286 million globally, and “Everything Everywhere All at Once,” a multiverse head trip that has racked up $103 million worldwide while being perceived as artistically bold. But those films didn’t have to compete with a glut of other prestige fare, which could be further fracturing an already shrinking audience base, one that may be wary of hitting up cinemas during COVID.

“There’s a lot of films chasing an audience that may be a little reticent about returning to theaters,” says Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst for Comscore. “It may be a little too much of a good thing.”

It’s not all gloom and doom. “The Menu,” a horror comedy set in the world of haute cuisine, did debut this weekend to a solid $9 million. But it benefited from being associated with a genre that is doing well at the box office (just look at recent horror hits such as “Smile” and “Barbarian”), and had an audience that skewed younger. The bulk of ticket buyers to “The Menu” were under 35 years old, while the majority of audience members for ‘She Said” were over 45 years old.

There are several more films that are about to brave this harsh environment for prestige fare. Among those hoping to defy the odds are “Bones and All,” a cannibal romance with Timothée Chalamet that opened in limited release; “The Fabelmans,” Steven Spielberg’s semi-autobiographical exploration of his childhood; and “Babylon,” a sprawling examination of the silent era of Hollywood that boasts turns by Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie. “The Fabelmans,” for instance, may prove to be just heart-warming enough to become a must-see for families over the holiday season, but even that movie, from one of the entertainment industry’s most-successful filmmakers, faces substantial headwinds. As for “Bones and All,” it may be too idiosyncratic to draw crowds, while “Babylon” could suffer from the divisive reaction it received in early screenings.

Movie studios have always been risk averse, but their appetite for taking big swings has only diminished in recent years. First, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon got into the game, providing homes for passion projects by the likes of Martin Scorsese and Alfonso Cuarón and conditioning consumers to watch these movies in their homes. Then, a wave of corporate consolidation, some of it triggered by traditional media players’ urgent need to bulk up for the streaming wars, has resulted in fewer independent studios to produce theatrical releases. It’s also left their corporate parents with a lot of debt, making them more hesitant to greenlight the next historical drama or esoteric Bildungsroman at a time when they need to clean up their balance sheets. All of this coincided with a pandemic that shuttered cinemas for nearly a year and still refuses to die off, as well as record inflation and a looming recession that have left people making tough choices about what to do with their dwindling discretionary resources.

So unless movies like “She Said” start performing better at the box office, a whole sector of the theatrical movie business may be imperiled. Something needs to change fast.

 
The problem is that this crop of non-conformists may no longer have a commercial reason for existing, at least as theatrical propositions.

Take “She Said,” a sturdily made look at the pair of crusading New York Times journalists who helped expose Harvey Weinstein’s decades of sexual harassment and assault.
> Talks on not conforming.
> Describes the DNC purposely sacrificing their tools for public opinion and creating a vector of attack against Drumpf.

When your message is being tauted by every globohomo platform in existence you are the definition of conforming.
 
“She Said” has a lot of company when it comes to well-reviewed movies that have collapsed on the shoals of audience indifference. One by one, this year’s crop of Oscar contenders have flopped or, at best, under-performed. There’s “Tár,” a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music that has eked out $4.9 million in seven weeks of release; “Armageddon Time,” a coming-of-age film that has only managed to generate $1.8 million after a month in theaters; and “Triangle of Sadness,” a satirical look at the one-percent that has crawled to a $3.8 million gross since opening in mid-October. “The Banshees of Inisherin” and “Till” have done slightly better, earning $7.1 million and $8.5 million, respectively, but their results aren’t exactly igniting the box office; they both will likely struggle to turn a profit in their theatrical runs.

This reads like arch parody, which probably doesn't help much.

No mention of the epic bonfire of the Hollywood IPs in the 2010s, of course, it'll be at least another decade before they'll begin to admit they were wrong on almost every level.

I'm sure I've mentioned this: if the marketing has a nigger, a gay, a tranny, or a sassy kike girl featured prominently, it is entirely reasonable to skip the product completely - no further information required - and that has nothing to do with racism, homophobia, transphobia, or anti-semitism; they are simply indicators of terrible shows now and for the foreseeable future.
 
I'm just spitballing here, but...

1. Award bait movies rarely resonate with the public, they're seen for what they are - cynical cash grabs by plucking at your heartstrings in the most transparent manner.
2. Audiences are fatigued by the fact that they can only choose 1 of 2 kinds of films to see these days: capeshit and girrrrrrl powah! if they aren't combined into the same thing.
3. A recession makes people tighten their wallets and the first casualty is entertainment.
4. Lack of marketing, (or at least it wasn't directed at me) this is literally the first time I've heard of this film. I also have not heard of the other 5 or so films they mention.
5. Its transparently hypocritical subject matter, talking up the very people and industries that audiences in real life are so very sick of having to deal with. (Journalists, the Media)
6. The subject matter is particularly scummy and tone-deaf since it's hard to ignore the fact its about a loathsome Hollywood Producer and going to see it is endorsing Hollywood producers, who probably still are just as scummy as Weinstein was. Pretty tone deaf for Hollywood to try and turn it's own depravity into a HEROIC story with a romanticized telling of the #MeToo movement, which got Weinstein's scalp, but, also got thousands of innocent people booted from social media and jobs at the slightest whiff of impropriety unless they had million dollar legal war chests to fight it like Johnny Depp. It glamorizes a movement that didn't help your average person, just made their lives worse, at the end of the day in a belated attempt to bring down a guy that EVERYONE knew was a scumbag for years and only decided to act when it was politically expedient.

But probably most importantly?

7. Hollywood has committed to The Message (tm) and will not back down from it, too many egos and too many millionaire producers that would have to explain themselves at cocktail parties want to live in the fantasy that they're in tune with the public and made all the right choices by clogging cinema with unwanted IDPOL and diversity.

Only Hollywood could be so stupid as to wreck the formula that worked for almost a century when it came to making movies and then stubborn enough to say without a hint of irony that something's wrong with their audience when they release so many bombs in a row you'd swear it was downtown Dresden in WWII.
 
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Well, I did recently enjoy a film that shits on biopic Oscar bait.
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People are looking for escapism right now. Even adult audiences are looking for something that takes them away from reality.”
No one's going to take their girl or kids to a movie about rape, regardless of how realistic it is. Also, I think they're overestimating how much people care about some Hollywood rape-kike; so much of the "buzz" around it was empty Twitter virtue signaling. Audiences, by and large, are normal people, and not well represented by the homosexuals and weird cat ladies who write film reviews in the modern era. Like so many other things, these people seem to have fallen for their own false consensus and now they only know how to make either ugly, boring films no one wants to see, or MARVEL'S AVENGERS 18: GIRLPOWER.

I went through my formative years in an era of Gangs of New York and Kill Bill and Pearl Harbour; I can't tell you the last time I saw an honest-to-god, big-budget, entertaining-as-fuck masterpiece like one of those.
First, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon got into the game, providing homes for passion projects by the likes of Martin Scorsese and Alfonso Cuarón and conditioning consumers to watch these movies in their homes.
The Irishman had zero passion; 3 hour snore fest and Cuarón hasn't made anything since Gravity so I have no idea wtf they're talking about. I have to wonder if this author fucked up their Wikipedia-ing while writing this.
Then, a wave of corporate consolidation, some of it triggered by traditional media players’ urgent need to bulk up for the streaming wars, has resulted in fewer independent studios to produce theatrical releases.
Or, you know, it was the 0% interest rate in an irresponsibly hot economy, kept at a balmy 487 degrees by the warm, red glow of the Federal Reserve's money printers.

Make fun, thoughtful movies and people will watch them. You make entertainment products; try to remember that.
 
No one's going to take their girl or kids to a movie about rape, regardless of how realistic it is.
And if you're taking your kid to see a rape movie because it's realistic, seek help.


I'm also beyond tired of seeing rape in dramas.
*Rich Evans voice* "I'm THROUGH with RAPE!!"
 
If I am going to drag my ass to a movie theatre, it will be for a big movie that benefits from a cinema setting. Even if I were interested in Bros, She Said, or any of the other pictures they mentioned, I would watch them at home. At this point, cinema theatres are for big, loud spectacles. Period dramas look just as good on a smaller screen and can be rented for considerably less than the cost of theatre tickets.
 
The nicest thing I can say about The Menu is that it sticks to class-based communism without much race stuff. Disappointed that it's not failing, but sadly I'm part of the problem.

This reads like arch parody, which probably doesn't help much.
Speaking of which, the trailers before The Menu were quite the shitshow. Chevalier, for instance, is the "true" story of a genius black violinist in revolutionary France and his adventures in battling racism and romancing white women. Something for those of you who stick to the NYT's required-watching list... imagine thinking that a movie like that is "non-conforming". The Fat Brendan Frasier movie might be good.
 
> Talks on not conforming.
> Describes the DNC purposely sacrificing their tools for public opinion and creating a vector of attack against Drumpf.

When your message is being tauted by every globohomo platform in existence you are the definition of conforming.
Yeah, the problem with Hollywood is they THINK that this is somehow non-conforming.
 
Award bait movies have literally never been box office gold, that's not why they're made. Their purpose is, obviously, to win awards, so the studios can use those awards to coax investors into giving them money for the expensive blockbusters that actually pay the bills. If the award movie also happens to turn a profit, all the better, and they're usually made so cheaply that even if literally no one saw them it wouldn't hurt the bottom line much.
 
the worst thing about this era of film is when these awful condescending Hollywood libs double down on their preachy political bullshit and then take to interviews and news columns bitching about how their unwatchable garbage bombed because of Racism™. obviously they notice that people are getting tired of listening to their bullshit, they're just lying to themselves about the reason, but even so, take a fucking hint my dude. if your goal is to make money, and people aren't buying what you're selling, the logical next step is to...? come on, flex that famous Jewish business sense

I'm just spitballing here, but...

1. Award bait movies rarely resonate with the public, they're seen for what they are - cynical cash grabs by plucking at your heartstrings in the most transparent manner.
2. Audiences are fatigued by the fact that they can only choose 1 of 2 kinds of films to see these days: capeshit and girrrrrrl powah! if they aren't combined into the same thing.
3. A recession makes people tighten their wallets and the first casualty is entertainment.
4. Lack of marketing, (or at least it wasn't directed at me) this is literally the first time I've heard of this film. I also have not heard of the other 5 or so films they mention.
5. Its transparently hypocritical subject matter, talking up the very people and industries that audiences in real life are so very sick of having to deal with.
6. The subject matter is particularly scummy and tone-deaf since it's hard to ignore the fact its about a loathsome Hollywood Producer and if you realize it or not, going to see it is endorsing Hollywood producers, who probably still are just as scummy as Weinstein was. Tone deaf for Hollywood to try and turn it's own depravity into a HEROIC story with a romanticized telling of the #MeToo movement, which got Weinstein's scalp, but, also got thousands of innocent people booted from social media and jobs at the slightest whiff of impropriety unless they had million dollar legal war chests to fight it like Johnny Depp. It glamorizes a movement that didn't help your average person, just made their lives worse, at the end of the day in a belated attempt to bring down a guy that EVERYONE knew was a scumbag for years and only decided to act when it was politically expedient.

But probably most importantly?

7. Hollywood has committed to The Message (tm) and will not back down from it, too many egos and too many millionaire producers that would have to explain themselves at cocktail parties want to live in the fantasy that they're in tune with the public and made all the right choices by clogging cinema with unwanted IDPOL and diversity.

Only Hollywood could be so stupid as to wreck the formula that worked for almost a century when it came to making movies and then stubborn enough to say without a hint of irony that something's wrong with their audience when they release so many bombs in a row you'd swear it was downtown Dresden in WWII.

basically this. a larger number of people see through the bullshit these days, and news audiences are not film audiences

It’s not all gloom and doom. “The Menu,” a horror comedy set in the world of haute cuisine, did debut this weekend to a solid $9 million. But it benefited from being associated with a genre that is doing well at the box office (just look at recent horror hits such as “Smile” and “Barbarian”), and had an audience that skewed younger.

yeah weird how the one genre that's still trying to do fun shit and not getting bogged down with socjus ideological diarrhea is the one that's consistently doing well. let's see, do I want to spend my ridiculously expensive theater visit on a dramatic retelling of a news media orgy involving a bunch of annoying people, or a slasher/thriller with a fun hook that only needs about 60 seconds of trailer time to get you curious?

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The thing that kills the Weinstein movie dead is how disingenuous it is. Who are its heroes?

The first women to come forward, facing harassment from Weinsteins legal team and physical intimidation from his hired thugs to keep quiet?

How about the police who had to run their investigation I'm absolute secrecy, lest Weinstein have his friends squash the investigation? The ones who worked for months to finally get him on tape during a dramatic undercover sting?

How about the lawyers who had to take on Weinsteins multi-million dollar legal team as they were pulling every dirty tactic from bribing officials to witness intimidation? And who were also harassed by Weinsteins hired goons.

No, they go with the two New York Times journalists who "Broke the story". Unsympathetic, Tabloid-tier journoscum that only got credit for the hard work of others.

And they wonder why their movie bombed...
 
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