Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Pelican Bones]

I stand with Israel, which means I stand with Russia finally de-Nazifying Ukraine. I also stand with 80iq slavs shooting at each other.

 

[White_N]

It's not his prediction, it's an American Jewish one. Only the tweet is really relevant here, don't bother reading the rest.
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"Fewer" Europeans.

So I can add illiteracy to the list of reasons to dislike that woman.

Wahahaha, uh, I have a surprise for you.

Fuck the EU​

@BULLY HUNTER_78

My only point is your Uncle Vlad should've played the long game like China has with Hong Kong and Tiawan. You said yourself that he gave them guns to defend themselves from being slaughtered, so he should've tried to fight defensively and protect the people that wanted Russian protection.​

This defensive war went on from 2014 to 2022, 8 years without results; are there any more suggestions?

 

[Elbereth]

Ah, the defensive war, when you send "green men" into another country, saying that you can buy russia uniforms with every shop with russian uniforms

 

[NIA-DOA 2.0]

Meh, I support Ukraine's right to sovereignty just like any other country. Russia should've pursued a peaceful resolution to secure the eastern areas that wanted to be annexed by Russia. Thousands of slavs have died for no good reason.

That being said, I don't support military escalation with a nuclear power, regardless of how poor their conventional warfighting capabilities have proven to be. Best of luck to the slavs of Eastern Europe - I'd recommend both sides try to hammer out a peace agreement, but I understand that is entirely too reasonable to actually happen.

That is just it. It doesn't seem Zelensky can quit while still ahead. He just expect this to keep going, and get more money from other countries. It is not realistic or sustainable.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I don't need to resort to posting Lancet vids, Russian artillery or dead Ukrainians of which there is a shitton of footage because I don't glory in the death of other white men or fellow slavs. Scratch that, you have to be a real basement dwelling subhuman to be emoting this hard while posting dead/maimed people.

That's done on the orders of Col. Shlomo in Tel Aviv as a demoralization tactic, except most of us aren't Russians/Russia aligned, but he persists, because he isn't very intelligent.

He also has orders to derail this thread by sprouting neo-Nazi retardation to prevent us from discussing the obscene amounts of money the US is throwing at the MIC while Americans suffer so they can use Ukraine as a proving grounds. Any real National Socialist would have learned long before this slapfight Ukrainians were considered Neggervolk-Nigger people, and treated accordingly. To laud them as the saviors of the white race is top fucking kek

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

This isn't an unequal treaty imposed by an external power to exploit Russia and you know it. Ukraine voted for independence through a referendum that was recognized by Russia just like all of the other CIS states

I didn't mention Ukrainian independence, I said the Borders that were "rattified" in 1991 were forced upon a country in deep economic and social crisis

"And for that matter when were Britain or the US subject to such a treaty in modern history? France I guess is one, but they lost Alsace-Lorraine due to German aggression during the Franco-Prussian war, again not a good example."

>Franco-Prussian War
>German Aggression

France was the aggressor in that war and declared war over of all things a German being elected as King of Spain.

>And for that matter when were Britain or the US subject to such a treaty in modern history
The US in Vietnam had the "Paris Peace Accords" as a face-saving measure, and Nixon/Kissinger in recorded conversation openly admitted it was a facesaving "treaty" designed to delay the US losing the war until after the 1972 elections, nothing more nothing less. The British were defeated in the Irish War of Independence in the 1920's and i'm sure there are more examples.

 

[Suck the Cock]

>a country in it's death spiral is exploited with an insane "treaty" when it was weak
Yeah, every single country has a long history of not following such "agreements" when they get stronger. Obvious examples being China, Japan, Germany, France, Britain, the US, everyone actually.

This isn't an unequal treaty imposed by an external power to exploit Russia and you know it. Ukraine voted for independence through a referendum that was recognized by Russia just like all of the other CIS states

And for that matter when were Britain or the US subject to such a treaty in modern history? France I guess is one, but they lost Alsace-Lorraine due to German aggression during the Franco-Prussian war, again not a good example.

Japan and Germany launched their own wars of aggression to achieve their territorial goals, how did that work out for them?

When did we randomly start caring about historical borders as if they have any impact on things that actually matter? The question is the right to sovereignty, not a debate on the former political opinions of people, half of which are dead. Right now, in The Year of Our Lord 2022, November 22 at 22:57:51 (UTC), most Ukrainians want to be not-Russia. That gives them the right to not be Russia. If, in approximately 10 minutes, they decided to change their mind and join Russia, it would be great for everyone because they wouldn't have to fight a war over the topic.

Suddenly we're supposed to give a crap about treaties and historical borders and shit? That's too damn complicated. I suppose now you'd argue that if Siberia, or Texas, suddenly voted they want to be independent, somehow they aren't allowed to be their own country and we have to have a whole war about it? That's stupid.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Wahahaha, uh, I have a surprise for you.

Why do you think I address the US as Amerifats and only in terms of gibs.
Obviously we don't like each other.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

Suddenly we're supposed to give a crap about treaties and historical borders and shit? That's too damn complicated. I suppose now you'd argue that if Siberia, or Texas, suddenly voted they want to be independent, somehow they aren't allowed to be their own country and we have to have a whole war about it? That's stupid.

Are you American? If so, your government launched the bloodiest war in your nation's history to violate the "sovereignty" of a new state that decided it wanted to be "not-America".
"most Ukrainians want to be not-Russia"
Yes, 18-60 year old males being subject to mass conscription and being detained or murdered if they try to leave the country, as well as the banning from 2014 to now of every large opposition party speaks to the masses supporting this notion.

Hey, I'm sure a large part of the Ukraine doesn't want peace with Russia, but those who do want peace or wanted a less aggressive policy towards Russia were often silenced or murdered, there was no room for free discourse from 2014 to now when it came to relations with Russia in Ukraine.

 

[Beak Thing]

I didn't mention Ukrainian independence, I said the Borders that were "rattified" in 1991 were forced upon a country in deep economic and social crisis

"And for that matter when were Britain or the US subject to such a treaty in modern history? France I guess is one, but they lost Alsace-Lorraine due to German aggression during the Franco-Prussian war, again not a good example."

>Franco-Prussian War
>German Aggression

France was the aggressor in that war and declared war over of all things a German being elected as King of Spain.

That wasn't why. It was a reaction to Prussia's war of aggression against Austria because they became a massive threat after defeating the Austrians in the Brothers' War. They massively fucked up and badly underestimated the NGC's capabilities, though.

>And for that matter when were Britain or the US subject to such a treaty in modern history
The US in Vietnam had the "Paris Peace Accords" as a face-saving measure, and Nixon/Kissinger in recorded conversation openly admitted it was a facesaving "treaty" designed to delay the US losing the war until after the 1972 elections, nothing more nothing less. The British were defeated in the Irish War of Independence in the 1920's and i'm sure there are more examples.

The US never attacked Vietnam after that, in fact they are not only an important trading partner but ally in the containment of China. And the British learned their lesson, there's a Republic of Ireland that has existed until the present day.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

When did we randomly start caring about historical borders as if they have any impact on things that actually matter?

Yes, indeed, why are we worried about America's borders? Only the Ukraine's borders a drunk signed off on in 1991 matter.

 

[Beak Thing]

That is just it. It doesn't seem Zelensky can quit while still ahead. He just expect this to keep going, and get more money from other countries. It is not realistic or sustainable.

It's only been 9 months. It would be absolutely no problem for NATO to support Ukraine with funding equal to the annual military budget of Russia for the foreseeable future.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

I don't have an issue with Eastern Ukraine rejoining Russia. My only point is your Uncle Vlad should've played the long game like China has with Hong Kong and Tiawan. You said yourself that he gave them guns to defend themselves from being slaughtered, so he should've tried to fight defensively and protect the people that wanted Russian protection. Trying to blitzkrieg Kiev was a mistake.

I've been over this before, Kiev front had 40,000 men involved compared to around 150,000 in the Donbas area. Donbas was the focus, the thrust towards Kiev was meant to be a Georgia 2008 style maneuver that would shock the government into negotiations with Russia, which at that early junction would likely have only been that Ukraine couldn't join NATO and would give up claims over Crimea and DPR/LPR, lands which they hadn't controlled for eight years.

Putin is not a nationalist contrary to popular opinion, he was a WEF fellow, friend of Klaus Schwab and Globalhomo's "top guy" in Russia during the early 2000's. He's now been forced by the political right and by the war into a more nationalist position where he has to justify the conflict by annexing land into Russia, where the guy would have preferred keeping Donbas as a frozen conflict like South Ossetia/Abkhazia to completely prevent Ukraine's entry into NATO forever.

 

[Overly Serious]

I don't have an issue with Eastern Ukraine rejoining Russia. My only point is your Uncle Vlad should've played the long game like China has with Hong Kong and Tiawan. You said yourself that he gave them guns to defend themselves from being slaughtered, so he should've tried to fight defensively and protect the people that wanted Russian protection. Trying to blitzkrieg Kiev was a mistake.

I don't think the long game was going in that direction. You had a coup in the country backed by the USA bringing in a government which wanted to renege on a treaty guaranteeing Sevastopol as a military port for Russia followed later by a leader (Zelensky) who was elected on a campaign of normalising relations with Russia and ending the civil war in Eastern Ukraine who reneged immediately on both policies and went all in on joining a military alliance against Russia (the leaders of which talk openly of breaking apart the Russian Federation and removing their elected president).

As regards long-game with China, they may have missed their chance with Taiwan. The population in China is getting very restless and the USA seems to be ramping up to some drastic measure to get out of its financial mess of $30trn in debt whilst China's economy is looking shakier by the day. If the USA achieves its geopolitical goals against Russia then China is very much their next target, as China was the much greater threat to US hegemony than Russia!

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

This defensive war went on from 2014 to 2022, 8 years without results; are there any more suggestions?

Nigga, all evidence points to the Russians overextending themselves and being chewed to pieces by the Ukrainian military and International Black Ops teams helping them. Putin went in too deep, and it now looks like he's going to lose.

Maybe he should've slowly advanced under the cover of artillery rather than driving all his tanks through unsecured Drone and RPG territory?

Hey, I'm sure a large part of the Ukraine doesn't want peace with Russia, but those who do want peace or wanted a less aggressive policy towards Russia were often silenced or murdered, there was no room for free discourse from 2014 to now when it came to relations with Russia in Ukraine.

IDK man, this sounds a lot like the American cope that Iraq and Afghanistan were ready to welcome us with open arms.

I'll do agree with you that the war of northern aggression lead to many deep divisions in America that persist to this day. Best case scenario, Putin would've had to deal with the same thing if his blitzkrieg succeeded. I no longer buy the cope that Putin was playing 4d chess to trap insurgents in the cities and shell them from a distance because every time I check back in on this thread, they've lost more ground. I think Putin took catastrophic losses and now the Russian lines are collapsing.

 

[NIA-DOA 2.0]

It's only been 9 months. It would be absolutely no problem for NATO to support Ukraine with funding equal to the annual military budget of Russia for the foreseeable future.

See?! Right here - Right fucking here!

Why does NATO need to give more money to you?! Why does it seem you believe you are entitled to other's money. Period.

Other nations are happy to provide refugee status, infrastructure support with power outages, and other humanitarian items for the citizens. But it is always fucking money with you people. You act like other people aren't suffering in the world and could use support.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

As regards long-game with China, they may have missed their chance with Taiwan. The population in China is getting very restless and the USA seems to be ramping up to some drastic measure to get out of its financial mess of $30trn in debt whilst China's economy is looking shakier by the day. If the USA achieves its geopolitical goals against Russia then China is very much their next target, as China was the much greater threat to US hegemony than Russia!

Respectfully disagree on that point. China has a golden opportunity to take Tiawan and that window is still open. I have seen convincing evidence that the US and Canada has sent nearly all our military stockpiles to Ukraine. On top of that, China basically owns Biden. I think they could take Tiawan tomorrow but the Russian meat grinder in Ukraine has scared them shitless, so they aren't going to do jack shit.

 

[Beak Thing]

See?! Right here - Right fucking here!

Why does NATO need to give more money to you?! Why do does it seem you believe you are entitled to other's money. Period.

Other nations are happy to provide refugee status, infrastructure support with power outages, and other humanitarian items for the citizens. But it is always fucking money with you people. You act like other people aren't suffering in the world and could support.

I live in the United States. It makes me very happy to see a threat like Russia finally destroyed for pennies compared to what it cost fighting them back during the Cold War.

 

[White_N]

Why do you think I address the US as Amerifats and only in terms of gibs.
Obviously we don't like each other.

Actions speak louder than words, and being the hyena of Europe certainly won't give anyone many friends.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Pro-Ukie types are just joyless fucks and the Ukranians are Russians with a different coat.

They are also obsessed with homosexuality in all shapes and forms. I understand being gay but what the heck is it with "4chan forced me to watch it", "cock battalion" and shit like this.