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I (Don't) Have A Gun said:
There is the often quoted "Everything is canon, but canon doesn't mean it's the exact truth."
Sadly a lot of people find this to be a genius concept or fundamental to the warhammer lore experience but they're wrong because practically this has no narrative of story telling value. By that I mean it's a concept that does not impact any of the stories or the way in which those stories are told.
The context of this quote is simple, when one of the authors was confronted about why his novel broke canon he quickly though up this retort... basically what this quote actually means is that he didn't much care about the details or making sure that his work fit into the existing body of work (the supposed canon). The idea took root and it became a shield used by 40k fans whenever someone points out inconsistencies, as a simple thought terminating cliché. Sadly it makes it hard to care too much about the lore and canon when the people working on it don't particularly care much either... but that's a me thing though since plenty of other people seem to still love the lore.

But the popularity of this idea among the fans and among some of the writers themselves (obviously) really tells us that nothing is canon. I believe ADB said it best: ""There is no canon. There are several hundred creators all adding to the melting pot of the IP."
Everything can change at any moment if some new author decides he can get away with it.

This is sadly the downside of properties like this where there is no central author or controlling body and the only real driving force is money. Comics has this in the most extreme form where you can literally see entire backstories just scrapped and rewritten not just reinterpreted or subtly changed as we more often see in 40k.

But if you want to some semblance of canon then the answer would be yes this is now canon until someone else decides to change it in which case it will not be canon.
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I meant more is that how he is presented still, I should have better wrote my question
Imperial Citizen said:
The Laer Blade initially possessed him but then he regained control of his body in the short story Reflection Crack’d.

Fulgrim has fully gone down the path of damnation.

There is no canon to how the Emperor acts, but I will say that I do like this depiction because it demonstrates that the Emperor is fallible. He is the most powerful human being but he is not omnipotent. He is convinced by his superiority that He knows what is best for humanity.

Any fuck up can’t be His fault. He doesn’t need to change, the galaxy must bend to His will.

The current state of the Imperium is therefore not a master plan of a God-Emperor or a final option to stave off the encroaching darkness. It is the result of a tyrant shaping humanity how is believes it should be and failing modify his vision for the future. 10,000 years of unending war brought about by the foibles of one man, trapped in a near deathless state as the civilization he built became the antithesis of everything he worked for.

Fucking grimdark, ain’t it?
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We already had flawed Emperor before, just happened that Graham McNeill and other pre-MoM had him still well meaning despite said flaws. Now it feels more Grimderp than Grimdark
 
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They made the Emperor into a turbo autist. Basically he got over the Creepy Stare by having psychic charisma on. Basically, imagine a version of CWC with god powers who thought "girls are icky" instead of the Love Quest.
 
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Male Idiot said:
They made the Emperor into a turbo autist. Basically he got over the Creepy Stare by having psychic charisma on. Basically, imagine a version of CWC with god powers who thought "girls are icky" instead of the Love Quest.
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If CWC were God-Emperor then the Primarchs

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The Chaos god would have stolen them to stop Goddess-Emperor-Chris-Chan from molesting them as babies and all of them would have turned traitor.
Also the astartes
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Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
So I guess I'm just retarded but I didn't understand this from Reflection Crack'd . So Fulgrim  was possessed and trapped in the painting by the Laer blade demon but forcibly swapped places  but continued to act weird and unlike himself to the point the Brotherhood of the Phoenix capture and torture him only to them reveal this to his astartes?

Sounds like "I was just pretending to be retarded" with extra steps and warp fuckery. Thank you for explaining
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Yes, and Fulgrim being the sick fuck he is actively got off on every single part of that, especially the part where his Legion start torturing him as part of an impromptu exorcism attempt.

Or to put it another way, he successfully trolled his Legion into indulging his sick masochist torture fantasies.
 
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I (Don't) Have A Gun said:
If CWC were God-Emperor then the Primarchs

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The Chaos god would have stolen them to stop Goddess-Emperor-Chris-Chan from molesting them as babies and all of them would have turned traitor.
Also the astartes
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Kill, Marry, Fuck go!

I'll start:
Kill: Cruze (probably self harm e girl)
Marry: Lady Guilliman (tradwife)
Fuck: Alpharius/Omegon (they look freaky in a good way)
 
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Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
So I guess I'm just retarded but I didn't understand this from Reflection Crack'd . So Fulgrim  was possessed and trapped in the painting by the Laer blade demon but forcibly swapped places  but continued to act weird and unlike himself to the point the Brotherhood of the Phoenix capture and torture him only to them reveal this to his astartes?

Sounds like "I was just pretending to be retarded" with extra steps and warp fuckery. Thank you for explaining
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The whole intention of The Reflection Crack'd is that you, the reader, are on the same page as Fulgrim's lieutenants in believing that he's possessed by the Laer Blade daemon as he was at the end of the novel Fulgrim. This sets up the reveal at the end of the story that Fulgrim had already casted the daemon out off-screen beforehand and was just acting nutty by his own volition. This then continues on into Angel Exterminatus, all with the real Fulgrim being an outlandish, canniving ponce.

Now the remaining question is what was McNeill thinking in writing all of this. I don't know if there's been any commentary since from the author himself, but it feels like he thought the Dorian Gray-esque daemonic possession at the end of Fulgrim made for a nice tragedy, only to then be met with backlash from readers who didn't like the idea of the traitor primarch Fulgrim we've known actually being a doppelganger robbing the real Fulgrim of his agency. Thus I imagine that The Reflection Crack'd was McNeill's undo button to abandon that whole idea and quickly cement Fulgrim as being a fully-willful traitor.
 
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Cpl. Long Dong Silver said:
Kill, Marry, Fuck go!

I'll start:
Kill: Cruze (probably self harm e girl)
Marry: Lady Guilliman (tradwife)
Fuck: Alpharius/Omegon (they look freaky in a good way)
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Kill: Lorgirl, gender bent or not Lorgar did everything Wrong
Marry: Sangirlius, add not genderbent Sanguinius and he's still probably the second hottest in this line up no homo.
Fuck: Girlpharius/Omegirl, cause they'll already know all my kinks
 
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Inquisitor_BadAss said:
I like flashgitz in general but they knocked it out of the park with this one.
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Oh yeah. They've gotten a hell of a lot better over the years. Here's hoping they can keep going and GeeDubs doesn't come down on them. Newgrounds is somehow still around, and thankfully its got their uncensored Space Hulk vids where they got their start. Nothing quite like Iron Maiden and Metallica as a soundtrack for cleansing a hulk.
 
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vern said:
they do used to, but whether it would of been better if they never made the stuff is a different question.
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In Warhammer High case they shouldn't have since their was incest in it, i wish it did not learn that while reading the If the Emperor reacted to TTS Extra thread
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ANYWAY, I found this pic of the emperor not in his golden armor
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I think it looks nice
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What would the Primarchs theme songs be?

I could see this be Angron's

This for either Kurze or Corax
 
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