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Folks, we're forgetting one important factor here -- the employer's side of things.

Let's assume that: (i) Chris reaches a point where the tugboat ain't cutting cutting it and Etsy sales have slowed down and Chris realizes he needs a job; and (ii) Chris is willing to put down his Amiibos and his PS4 and his Sonichu scribblings and try to find a job; and (iii) he know that government programs exist to help place speds in the workforce; and (iv) he applies to this program; and (v) this program accepts him; and (vi) this program finds him a potential job that he can do; and (vii) CWC is willing and able to do this job (no carrying of 5-ton doghouses or stocking 50-pound 12-packs of soda). With me so far?
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First he'd have to admit he's a tard and then, he'd bug out the moment he saw the other tards in the workforce. The kind of job that hires tards generally hires a lot of tards. He'd refuse to be lumped in with the other slow in da minds and would be fired for being too arrogant to do a tard job with other tards.
 
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Segway scooters are assembled by people with Downs Syndrome, and Chris isn't even capable of doing that. Literal downies have more job skills than Chris.
Muscle Bra said:
Folks, we're forgetting one important factor here -- the employer's side of things.

Let's assume that: (i) Chris reaches a point where the tugboat ain't cutting cutting it and Etsy sales have slowed down and Chris realizes he needs a job; and (ii) Chris is willing to put down his Amiibos and his PS4 and his Sonichu scribblings and try to find a job; and (iii) he know that government programs exist to help place speds in the workforce; and (iv) he applies to this program; and (v) this program accepts him; and (vi) this program finds him a potential job that he can do; and (vii) CWC is willing and able to do this job (no carrying of 5-ton doghouses or stocking 50-pound 12-packs of soda). With me so far?

Now, look at it from the employers' point of view. More specifically, what incentive would they have to hire CWC over anyone -- and I mean *anyone* -- else who applied for the position? Even if they are getting a tax subsidy or a wage break or whatever, I see no reason why they wouldn't pick some quiet, clean-cut, 20-YO exceptional individual or an older lady in her 60's trying to re-enter the workforce over an aging, unbathed, lesbian-souled tranny with unkempt seaweed-green hair and literally no job history.

To have even half a chance at getting hired by an employer, CWC would literally need to be the only candidate for the job and -- even with his prospective employer knowing nothing about him (and IGNORE all google results!) -- his appearance, lack of any marketable skills, and non-existent ability to socialize would likely cause even the kindliest of employers to take a second thought.
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Pretty much this. Even if Chris did want to get a job nobody would hire him. Hell he would probably write his resume in "Spanish" in a failed attempt to impress people.
 
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Katolate said:
Chris' decade of livin la vida loca
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I read that as "livin la vidya loca" at first and didn't think anything of it.

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find something she wants that she can't afford but find some way of justifying using OPL as a way of getting it, it's for his benefit or we'll it's gona add to my legacy etc
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Erie how Chris uses the exact same justifications of leaving his "investments" for his hypothetical daughter to explain his vidya purchases.
 
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If he cant stick with the making the comics i sincerely doubt he will be capable of holding down a real job the only one he ever had he got fired from. and say he had a bad day at work whats stopping him from crashing into slumber and using "stress" as an excuse for not fronting up to work? *sigh*(:_(
 
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If he cant stick with the making the comics i sincerely doubt he will be capable of holding down a real job the only one he ever had he got fired from. and say he had a bad day at work whats stopping him from crashing into slumber and using "stress" as an excuse for not fronting up to work? *sigh*(:_(
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Chris has zero reason to entertain dipshits on the internet.
 
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Chris has zero reason to entertain dipshits on the internet.
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oh sorry i didn't mean it that way i was just more or less saying his not very good at staying focused on tasks at hand, aside from his job at Wendy's making the comic's is the closest thing i can think of as a job and he doesn't do that so i can't really see him holding down a job
 
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Muscle Bra said:

Now, look at it from the employers' point of view. More specifically, what incentive would they have to hire CWC over anyone -- and I mean *anyone* -- else who applied for the position? Even if they are getting a tax subsidy or a wage break or whatever, I see no reason why they wouldn't pick some quiet, clean-cut, 20-YO exceptional individual or an older lady in her 60's trying to re-enter the workforce over an aging, unbathed, lesbian-souled tranny with unkempt seaweed-green hair and literally no job history.
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Some places have diversity goals in place, like Wal-Mart.

Hiring a 1. Mentally Handicapped and 2. LGBT type person would be a double whammy.

Those places tend to have a few diversity hires that don't real work, cause issues, but look good on paper. There are various incentives, tax or otherwise, for companies to start doing this.

Of course, notwithstanding Chris' instinctual laziness, I think he's riiiight in that area between needing an institution and being able to hold down a job.

Granted most of that comes from his shitty upbringing by the Borb. Had other opportunities for real instruction been offered and accepted early on, he could be blissfully stocking shelves at that Target.
 
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Muscle Bra said:
Folks, we're forgetting one important factor here -- the employer's side of things.

Let's assume that: (i) Chris reaches a point where the tugboat ain't cutting cutting it and Etsy sales have slowed down and Chris realizes he needs a job; and (ii) Chris is willing to put down his Amiibos and his PS4 and his Sonichu scribblings and try to find a job; and (iii) he know that government programs exist to help place speds in the workforce; and (iv) he applies to this program; and (v) this program accepts him; and (vi) this program finds him a potential job that he can do; and (vii) CWC is willing and able to do this job (no carrying of 5-ton doghouses or stocking 50-pound 12-packs of soda). With me so far?

Now, look at it from the employers' point of view. More specifically, what incentive would they have to hire CWC over anyone -- and I mean *anyone* -- else who applied for the position? Even if they are getting a tax subsidy or a wage break or whatever, I see no reason why they wouldn't pick some quiet, clean-cut, 20-YO exceptional individual or an older lady in her 60's trying to re-enter the workforce over an aging, unbathed, lesbian-souled tranny with unkempt seaweed-green hair and literally no job history.

To have even half a chance at getting hired by an employer, CWC would literally need to be the only candidate for the job and -- even with his prospective employer knowing nothing about him (and IGNORE all google results!) -- his appearance, lack of any marketable skills, and non-existent ability to socialize would likely cause even the kindliest of employers to take a second thought.
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Segway scooters are assembled by people with Downs Syndrome, and Chris isn't even capable of doing that. Literal downies have more job skills than Chris.
Pretty much this. Even if Chris did want to get a job nobody would hire him. Hell he would probably write his resume in "Spanish" in a failed attempt to impress people.
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It depends on the program aka whether its federal or state, but I was under the impression that if a business signs up for this program they have to accept whoever they are given at first aka they dont get to choose who they are saddled with. I mean thats the entire point of this program is to get these people jobs, not have employers pick the best ones and have a situation similar to having there be the one kid whos always picked last for gym class so to speak. These ARE the kids who get picked last for gym class and the entire point of this program is to remedy that. Obviously if there are problems with a employee they can possibly fire them but there has to be a process for that and they probably need approval from the state to do it. You cant have employers half-assing this and cheating the system just so they can get subsidies. You have to do this right when it comes to disabled people and employers have to accept the responsibility of doing this correctly or they need not sign up. Maybe @AnOminous can confirm this.

Now that being said, like @Hyperion stated, Chris would have to admit that hes too disabled to hold a job normally to get into this program and he would have to accept being lumped in with other far more exceptional individuals and that is unlikely to happen since he believes hes superior to them. This basically leaves him getting a job normally which he could certainly get, but he probably cant be assed to even fill out a job application. Minimum wage employers dont really scrutinize who they hire all that much. Of course he will probably want special treatment and will use autism to try and shield him from doing anything wrong.
 
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Muscle Bra said:
Folks, we're forgetting one important factor here -- the employer's side of things.

Let's assume that: (i) Chris reaches a point where the tugboat ain't cutting cutting it and Etsy sales have slowed down and Chris realizes he needs a job; and (ii) Chris is willing to put down his Amiibos and his PS4 and his Sonichu scribblings and try to find a job; and (iii) he know that government programs exist to help place speds in the workforce; and (iv) he applies to this program; and (v) this program accepts him; and (vi) this program finds him a potential job that he can do; and (vii) CWC is willing and able to do this job (no carrying of 5-ton doghouses or stocking 50-pound 12-packs of soda). With me so far?

Now, look at it from the employers' point of view. More specifically, what incentive would they have to hire CWC over anyone -- and I mean *anyone* -- else who applied for the position? Even if they are getting a tax subsidy or a wage break or whatever, I see no reason why they wouldn't pick some quiet, clean-cut, 20-YO exceptional individual or an older lady in her 60's trying to re-enter the workforce over an aging, unbathed, lesbian-souled tranny with unkempt seaweed-green hair and literally no job history.

To have even half a chance at getting hired by an employer, CWC would literally need to be the only candidate for the job and -- even with his prospective employer knowing nothing about him (and IGNORE all google results!) -- his appearance, lack of any marketable skills, and non-existent ability to socialize would likely cause even the kindliest of employers to take a second thought.
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There is diversity hiring, as others have mentioned. There are tax reasons for these, as well as PR and corporate social responsibility. (I am not saying hiring Chris is good PR, I am saying an explicit policy to hire disabled people is).

That sort of policy could also be at a lower level, even if it isn't a corporate policy. Some manager thinks helping out someone like Chris would be a good thing to do.

Also, an employer might not go through all of the people you describe. They are really shorthanded on re-stockers, Chris is at the right place at the right time, and they figure he is decent enough and the search to find someone better is a hassle they don't want to deal with.

I agree that there are hurdles for Chris finding a job. I just think if he put his mind to it, and was willing to accept help from the appropriate places, it would work out occassionally. Although I think the tomgirl thing probably doesn't help. In the classic Chris days, you put a uniform on him and he could pass as a normal guy until you talked to him for a while. Being able to be normal enough for a brief conversation is a huge asset. Pre-tomgirl, Chris could occassionally pull it off. Now he can't.
 
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I have to agree with Timtommy, Chris in the Chantor outfit could have found a shelf packing job pretty easily I think, if nobody talked to him a lot.

But now he evolved into Tomgirl Chrischu, and he can't pass as a normal person (woman or otherwise). His outfit just screams autism.
 
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I have to agree with Timtommy, Chris in the Chantor outfit could have found a shelf packing job pretty easily I think, if nobody talked to him a lot.

But now he evolved into Tomgirl Chrischu, and he can't pass as a normal person (woman or otherwise). His outfit just screams autism.
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I don't think it is necessarily about not appearing to be "special". If a place like Walmart is looking to hire a shelf stocker, they want to know if he is physically and intellectually capable of doing the job. He is. They want to know if he can handle basic interactions with customers. A bit of a questionable one, there. He is liable to start rambling about his bullshit, but if he was convinced he should answer "where do you keep your cereal" with "over there in that aisle" and nothing else, he could do the job perfectly well.

His autism could even be an asset. If he convinces them he could do the job approximately as well as some neurotypical guy he could get some pity points. And he is going to get a lot more credit for doing a basic job competently than your average guy.

I think his current get up screams "weirdo" more than anything. I have worked in management at large stores before, and one thing I want from stockers is no bullshit. I want not to notice them, except that the stuff they need to do gets done. I want customers not to notice them, unless they choose to interact with them. And if they do interact with them, I want their conversations to be brief, pleasant, and unremarkable.

Back when Chris looked normal, his non-confrontational pussiness would have made him a decent stocker as long as he showed up on time and didn't slack too much. But if Chris shows up now, the first reaction of the person interviewing him is going to be "oh god, this is going to be a thing". And the last thing they want is "things".
 
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Consider how readily Chris labels not getting whatever he wants as autism/lesbian/trans/whatever discrimination and starts fanning the flames as much as he can. An employer who saw even a glimpse of that on the horizon would find a way to say "the position has already been filled".

Edit: does t.r.a.n.s. really autofilter to "tranny"? Is that really called for?
 
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The big issue would be the concept of doing an acceptable amount of work over an acceptable amount of time. One constant with Chris is that he believes his obligations are fulfilled by him doing something. What that something is doesn't matter, all that matters is that he took any amount of time to do something that wasn't for himself.
He's been brought up to believe minimum effort yields maximum reward, and if that doesn't happen it's your fault for not playing your part.
 
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