Let's Sperg Jaimas Plays a Terrible Game: Hackers Vs Banksters

[Randall Fragg]

so i've been poking around in the files with ren'py and the first thing i found out is that all of the game's code is in one single file. to put it into layman's terms how inefficient and lazy that is pretend you have all your paperwork stuff in a single drawer of a filing cabinet and its all unlabeled. the only way you can find what you want is by searching through the entire stack of shit until you finally find what you're looking for after like a half an hour. its not like this is a limitation with ren'py because you can make as many script files as you want and they all connect with each other.

Jesus.
How'd you get the file anyway, and is there a way to modify them and the assets? Analchests vs FagDadz needs to be a thing.

 

[Whatisgoingon]

so i've been poking around in the files with ren'py and the first thing i found out is that all of the game's code is in one single file. to put it into layman's terms how inefficient and lazy that is pretend you have all your paperwork stuff in a single drawer of a filing cabinet and its all unlabeled. the only way you can find what you want is by searching through the entire stack of shit until you finally find what you're looking for after like a half an hour. its not like this is a limitation with ren'py because you can make as many script files as you want and they all connect with each other.

Shit. Everything in one file? I don't know much about game programming, but even with what little basics I've learned, that's horrifying. No wonder it has taken so long for her to put this turd of a game out.

 

[Kerfuffle]

Wait, destroying the fucking bank is the objective? I thought they were trying to get their money back and probably nick a few million more, not create a fucking economic disaster and wipe out random peoples savings and investments.

 

[D.Angus]

I cannot for the life of me.. Follow this Daria/ThatGuy/Chris Chan fanfic..

Spoiler: Also This:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/sweetmecifulljesus-png.81143/

It's literally that guy from 3D MovieMaker

 

[Mike Hunt]

so i've been poking around in the files with ren'py and the first thing i found out is that all of the game's code is in one single file. to put it into layman's terms how inefficient and lazy that is pretend you have all your paperwork stuff in a single drawer of a filing cabinet and its all unlabeled. the only way you can find what you want is by searching through the entire stack of shit until you finally find what you're looking for after like a half an hour. its not like this is a limitation with ren'py because you can make as many script files as you want and they all connect with each other.

Having huge, single-file code is symptomatic of someone just starting out with programming. To be fair, though, Kim has been up front about her only starting to learn to code in her Kickstarter. That said, I feel sorry for Joseph Brown who Kim lists as the guy who'd help debug her code. Dude will have to wade through all those lines. For his sake, I hope Kim at least put readable comments in there to help him out.

 

[knux]

Outstanding game review!

 

[AnOminous]

Did you find out where any of the stolen assets are from? Are they public domain (let me guess no).

I assume anything that doesn't look like it was drawn by a mongoloid having an epileptic seizure is stolen.

 

[Pikimon]

The anorexia bit is fucking hilarious.

"We can't have you choose for her to actually get better and recover from her anorexia! No, no no she has to remain in the correct state of malnutrition in order to get that sympathy $$$"

 

[ULTIMATEPRIMETIME]

Jesus.
How'd you get the file anyway, and is there a way to modify them and the assets? Analchests vs FagDadz needs to be a thing.

editing and using the assets for a ren'py game is surprisingly easy.

just download the demo from here: https://crowgirl.itch.io/hackers-versus-banksters just set the price to 0, it's free.

after that you just need to download ren'py and put the demo in ren'py's projects folder. load ren'py up and her game should show up as a project.

for the images and stuff, you only need to poke around in the game's folder because everything is saved as regular image and music files. for the code, however, you need to download an editor like Editra. ren'py will download this stuff for you if you click that "script.rpy" link in the Edit File section.

and bam now you're here

look at me im an indie dev now!!!

btw fun fact this entire script file is about 4819 lines big and is hardly commented or organized so good luck finding what you're looking for lol

 

[ZehnBoat]

can you like, take one character's dialogues and replace his/her/it's lines with the lines you see at the top of the forums?

 

[JU 199]

If anyone feels like committing to some modification here's that template again

Here's them both as individual files

 

[ULTIMATEPRIMETIME]

can you like, take one character's dialogues and replace his/her/it's lines with the lines you see at the top of the forums?

you can rewrite any part of the game in any way you want, so yes.

If anyone feels like committing to some modification here's that template again

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Here's them both as individual files

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oh shit thanks i will use this in my game

 

[Jaimas]

Did you find out where any of the stolen assets are from? Are they public domain (let me guess no).

I assume anything that doesn't look like it was drawn by a mongoloid having an epileptic seizure is stolen.

The backgrounds I know are from Google image search of various locales in Canada.

 

[PTNR 2.0]

This thread is gold. It's hard to pick one thing in this wreck as 'funniest', but I can't stop laughing every time I see "Flat Top" Jones. Ahahaha what a fucking name. I wonder what other names were on the short list for that character? "Mandingo" Brown? "Nigger" Jackson?

Edit: Honorable mention to Wellington "Cokie" Richmond - literally "white, coke addict rich man".

 

[Jaimas]

This thread is gold. It's hard to pick one thing in this wreck as 'funniest', but I can't stop laughing every time I see "Flat Top" Jones. Ahahaha what a fucking name. I wonder what other names were on the short list for that character? "Mandingo" Brown? "Nigger" Jackson?

The one that made me laugh like an idiot was Flat Top making fun of the fact that Tankboy triggered himself.

He legit said the exact thing I was thinking at that very moment.

 

[Mimic]

If only I had Semper Fis to give. You sir would get them all.

Though I'm not really sure what message this game is trying to get across. If anything it taught me the hippies from the '60s are back and uglier and more insufferable than before. And this time we won't get a cool music festival.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Hackers vs Bankers and its writing really does show just how poorly thought out some thought process can be for the SJW crowd, especially when it comes to literature making grandstanding points.

(Yes, sorry everyone, but I am going to sperg out about the terrible writing.)

Now, in all honesty it’s very easy to crap out a propaganda piece like this because you really only need to tick the boxes. And dear lord does Hackers vs Bankers tick those boxes.


Unusual hair? Check.

Self diagnosed mental illnesses? Check

Some form of transgender person? Check

One dimensional villains everyone still hates? Check

Pages and pages of plot interrupting moral grandstanding? Check


None of these characters are relatable. At all. This is really the key point to a good propaganda piece being effective. Orwell was an expert at this because people like Winston Smith were easily relatable to us because he behaved like us, thought like us. We typically have to understand and become invested in a protagonist, or even a secondary character (Sir Conan-Doyle’s Dr Watson) in order to become invested.


From what we’ve seen of Hackers vs Bankers it fails badly on that trope.


The second failure is character improvement. After investment people want to see the people they are invested in improve and be revealed to them. Both Tankboy and Crowgirl fail on this so spectacularly badly it’s frankly jaw-dropping. Doubly so as you get slapped in the face early on the story basically goes;

“She’s anorexic, no she’s not going to get better during this story. Fuck off.”

You’re basically dangled a golden story opportunity here and it’s ignored. Why’s she anoerxic? How? Is it related somehow to her hatred of Toronto Mistrust? Was she unable to eat at one point due to their impropriety somehow?

If we don’t need to know this, or use it for the story’s development then you’re just wasting time writing it.


Same thing for Tankboys PTSD. Why does he have it? Is it relevant to the story or used to help round him out as a character? No? Then we don’t need it.

His child abuse arc has fuck all to do with the relevant storyline so again, we simply don’t need it. Instead it’s more egregious box ticking to draw in the tumblr crowd it’s clearly designed for.


Flattop Jones is badly one dimensional because… urgh. Sorry. But this is from the crowd who supposedly “LOVES! PoCs” but always fails miserably to write them as anything other than an awkward as fuck shoe in just to show how diverse they are.


I’ve worked a lot with people from a lot of backgrounds 1) 95% of the shit you talk about is exactly the same as when you talk with ‘whitey’ because “lol #firstworldproblems” and 2) When you do show actual interest in things like culture and religion they are shocked you know anything because it’s typically not normal conversation.


Christ, the actual interesting character is Taylor Santos. But that opportunity is pissed away on the altar of box ticking. A Transexual in a highly testosterone charged environment like an investment bank would be devoured in insults, swearing and everything else. But nope, we just get misgendering, the greatest single crime against any tranny on the planet.

 

[Jaimas]

Hackers vs Bankers and its writing really does show just how poorly thought out some thought process can be for the SJW crowd, especially when it comes to literature making grandstanding points.

(Yes, sorry everyone, but I am going to sperg out about the terrible writing.)

Now, in all honesty it’s very easy to crap out a propaganda piece like this because you really only need to tick the boxes. And dear lord does Hackers vs Bankers tick those boxes.


Unusual hair? Check.

Self diagnosed mental illnesses? Check

Some form of transgender person? Check

One dimensional villains everyone still hates? Check

Pages and pages of plot interrupting moral grandstanding? Check


None of these characters are relatable. At all. This is really the key point to a good propaganda piece being effective. Orwell was an expert at this because people like Winston Smith were easily relatable to us because he behaved like us, thought like us. We typically have to understand and become invested in a protagonist, or even a secondary character (Sir Conan-Doyle’s Dr Watson) in order to become invested.


From what we’ve seen of Hackers vs Bankers it fails badly on that trope.


The second failure is character improvement. After investment people want to see the people they are invested in improve and be revealed to them. Both Tankboy and Crowgirl fail on this so spectacularly badly it’s frankly jaw-dropping. Doubly so as you get slapped in the face early on the story basically goes;

“She’s anorexic, no she’s not going to get better during this story. Fuck off.”

You’re basically dangled a golden story opportunity here and it’s ignored. Why’s she anoerxic? How? Is it related somehow to her hatred of Toronto Mistrust? Was she unable to eat at one point due to their impropriety somehow?

If we don’t need to know this, or use it for the story’s development then you’re just wasting time writing it.


Same thing for Tankboys PTSD. Why does he have it? Is it relevant to the story or used to help round him out as a character? No? Then we don’t need it.

His child abuse arc has fuck all to do with the relevant storyline so again, we simply don’t need it. Instead it’s more egregious box ticking to draw in the tumblr crowd it’s clearly designed for.


Flattop Jones is badly one dimensional because… urgh. Sorry. But this is from the crowd who supposedly “LOVES! PoCs” but always fails miserably to write them as anything other than an awkward as fuck shoe in just to show how diverse they are.


I’ve worked a lot with people from a lot of backgrounds 1) 95% of the shit you talk about is exactly the same as when you talk with ‘whitey’ because “lol #firstworldproblems” and 2) When you do show actual interest in things like culture and religion they are shocked you know anything because it’s typically not normal conversation.


Christ, the actual interesting character is Taylor Santos. But that opportunity is pissed away on the altar of box ticking. A tranny in a highly testosterone charged environment like an investment bank would be devoured in insults, swearing and everything else. But nope, we just get misgendering, the greatest single crime against any tranny on the planet.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but there's a right and a wrong way to do a tranny character.

The right way is to never call attention to it in the first place, unless it's somehow relevant.

The wrong way is the Sophie LaBelle TRANS IS MY IDENTITY nonsense that is designed to virtue-signal to the rainbowhair nonsense generation crowd.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but there's a right and a wrong way to do a tranny character.

The right way is to never call attention to it in the first place, unless it's somehow relevant.

The wrong way is the Sophie LaBelle tranny IS MY IDENTITY nonsense that is designed to virtue-signal to the rainbowhair nonsense generation crowd.

It's what does get my goat with some of these supposedly enlightened people. They could make it relevant as I just outlined above. There's plenty of actual opportunities and openings to make it relevant even in this storyline. But Nope. No, it's all about making sure the box is ticked.

 

[niggers]

like, the "you can't be a holy savior and fix everything" angle is interesting. imagine trying the best you can to help the character, only for the decision to not matter or exacerbate the problem. like, y'know, how things work in reality.

the thing is, when you EXPLICITLY FUCKING SAY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE "you can't cure her don't even try shitlord" you remove all nuance. this could've been something that the player would learn through the game, from the actions and situations that player choices lead into. by leading with "you have to coddle their dysfunctions and never try anything that a normal human would do" it immediately makes the character come off as a whiny cunt who merely doesn't want to hear that she has problems.

crawdad took a theme and shat on it because it would've required a lot more writing and dialogue choices