If you are fat, it's your fault and it's not healthy (also, you look terrible)

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a course of action to which one has an excessive and irrational commitment
I see.
Yes. We were going to meet up but you weren't going to be there for a convention until a few weeks after I left. Weed's bad for your memory ~
Heh, well, to be fair, I've had lots of meetings that failed to materialize. They sorta blend into each other.
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Albinism?
 
A change in lifestyle did make a difference for me. Going to weight watchers, gym membership, and yoga. The biggest difference was in being more careful about what I eat and how much I eat. I think it is a matter of knowing your own body and trying to understand how much food is appropriate for you and compensate when you eat too much. It is also important to realize that health is not a competition; people are going to lose weight at different rates and at the same time you should not sacrifice your own health in the name of losing weight. Your body still needs fuel just to perform basic functions to keep you alive.

Honestly, if you are having trouble losing weight no matter how much you try then you might want to talk to a doctor about it. Also, don't beat yourself up over it, being overweight is not the worst thing in the world.

If you are this guy however, you deserve your pit of despair
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A life where I got to live an extra 30 years, but had to give up my vices, would be an exceptionally hollow life for me.

The OP didn't say give up fattening unhealthy food to lose weight. All you need to do to lose weight is cut down on your unhealthy foods some and exercise. Is 15 minutes of aerobic exercise 5 days a week "giving up your vices" and making your life hollow by extending it by 30 fucking years? Do you know how long that is?
And whenever my mental illnesses flare up, I have an obsessive compulsion to literally eat my feelings away
Why don't you try exercise? Also, this kind of motivation works for some people.

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The OP didn't say give up fattening unhealthy food to lose weight. All you need to do to lose weight is cut down on your unhealthy foods some and exercise. Is 15 minutes of aerobic exercise 5 days a week "giving up your vices" and making your life hollow by extending it by 30 fucking years? Do you know how long that is?

Why don't you try exercise? Also, this kind of motivation works for some people.

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The OP didn't say give up fattening unhealthy food to lose weight. All you need to do to lose weight is cut down on your unhealthy foods some and exercise. Is 15 minutes of aerobic exercise 5 days a week "giving up your vices" and making your life hollow by extending it by 30 fucking years? Do you know how long that is?
Depends on the person.

If someone is maybe 30 pounds overweight, but they wear it well and are happy with themselves, then yeah, exercising and dieting might be unnecessary. And if it's unnecessary, it'll just be a drain on their happiness.

Time is not all minted the same. Your youth is much more valuable than your golden years.
 
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If someone is maybe 30 pounds overweight, but they wear it well and are happy with themselves, then yeah, exercising and dieting might be unnecessary.

Maybe it's just me, but 15 minutes a day for 5 days a week that will likely mean 5-10 years sounds like a steal to me. Why wouldn't you take it? Are you planning on being that miserable for the last 5-10 years of your life? Why would you not choose to exercise if it means you're much much more likely to live a decade longer?

I can't see how you enjoy life so much not to want to change if you don't want to live 10 more years in exchange for 15 minutes a day of exercise.

Is avoiding sweating for 15 minutes a day really worth dying a decade earlier?
 
Nicole Arbour would also beat a very nice man.
Dont be Nicole Arbour

Speaking of her, apparently she made another Dear Fat People video. On the first video she disabled ratings and comments, so she can't take the heat she insists on dishing out.

To get back on topic, if you're concerned about your weight, there are many ways to help you maintain your current size or get thinner. Try downloading both a calorie counter and a step counter app. Make an appointment a dietician. Turn off the computer/vidya/TV and go walking on a nice day -- or if isn't nice weather outside, or you live in an unsafe area-- go watch some workout routines or buy a game revolving around moving your body.

But for the love of God, just don't sit around and throw a pity party.
 
Living in a nation of fatties is the bomb tbh I get completely disproportionate attractiveness points just by not eating myself into a coma every day and having sexier vices.
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Maybe it's just me, but 15 minutes a day for 5 days a week that will likely mean 5-10 years sounds like a steal to me. Why wouldn't you take it? Are you planning on being that miserable for the last 5-10 years of your life? Why would you not choose to exercise if it means you're much much more likely to live a decade longer?

I can't see how you enjoy life so much not to want to change if you don't want to live 10 more years in exchange for 15 minutes a day of exercise.

Is avoiding sweating for 15 minutes a day really worth dying a decade earlier?
Oh, I personally don't have a weight problem.

I'm just arguing that there's not a one-size-fit-all solution to the longevity-vs-life-satisfaction tradeoff. I think the claim that there is one (or very close to one) to be extremely arrogant.

People conservatively giving weight loss suggestions, like you're doing, aren't that bad. But on the other hand, if someone isn't like morbidly obese, the person giving the suggestions should also be prepared to accept the possibility that the heavy person is perfectly happy with the way they are. Or in fact, they like the way they are, as surprising as that might be to some people.

And of course, neither side should get pissy at the other side, assuming no one's being condescending or rude.
 
So, what, just because you can hide most other unhealthy habits from public view means fat people deserve the extra scrutiny just because being fat is something you can't really hide? Seems pretty shitty if you ask me.

Welcome to living in the real world. Unless you wear your fursuit in public, no one knows what you're into in your bedroom. Unless you're piss drunk all day and every day, no one but those closest to you know you're an alcoholic who can't go to sleep without drinking.

When you choose to become overweight or obese (and it is a choice that takes a long time and dedication), then everyone can see it because you've visibly deformed your body. What you are incredibly bothered is the fact that people have eyes to see that fat people are, well, fat.

And guess what, when you decide that you're gonna start eating the amount of calories you should be eating based on your exercise output, people notice too. That's why you get people who say 'Have you been losing weight? You look great!' and encouraging people. Because they are getting over their vice and making better and healthier decisions for themselves, and the rest of society is proud of them for doing it.

Just saying, if you genuinely care about people's health as much as you say you do, you shouldn't use such inflammatory language or try to guilt trip overweight people. Why? Because a lot of us already feel shitty enough as it is.

Are you asking me to use polite language and to cuddle people who make shitty life decisions on Kiwi Farms?

I'm overweight because I use eating as a coping mechanism for the mental illnesses I have (not going to :powerlevel: too hard here so I'll keep it general). I suffer from severe anxiety and, on occasion, depression and have been on medication for years. My neurosis, combined with the medication I take, have caused me to have a very strange relationship with food; I’ll avoid eating for a long time before binging out on junk food or food that isn’t very nutritious. And whenever my mental illnesses flare up, I have an obsessive compulsion to literally eat my feelings away so I don’t have to confront them; I don’t think I can articulate how hard it is to resist this compulsion. And the worst part is that compulsive eating is still way better than the self-destructive way I used to control my feelings. All of this has resulted in a very vicious circle, where I keep feeling worse and worse about myself, leading to more binging, leading to even lower self-esteem .

As much as dislike the HAES movement for glamorizing my predicament, I also dislike the anti-HAES side for making me feel worse about myself while ostensibly doing so for the sake of my health. And I really don't appreciate you making judgements about my moral character just because of the way I look, saying that I'm ugly, selfish, and indulgent for being overweight. This is exactly what I mean, anti-fat people are doing so much more harm than good by being so judgemental and condescending instead of actually trying to understand why people overeat and how they can deal with the underlying problems that drive them to do so.

I'm sad to hear about your issues, but you are someone with a mental illness and you being overweight is a result of that. It's not the case for the vast majority of the population. The vast majority of the population are fat because they eat too much and don't work out enough. And if they claim otherwise, it's just excuses that have no valid basis in reality, as I deconstructed the most common ones in the OP.

If you have mental illnesses and an eating disorder, I suggest you don't read a thread that's addressed to people who are sane and just eat too much/don't exercise enough.

Not "supposed to be" by what metric? I mean, you could reasonably argue that the human body is not supposed to engage in anal sex.

If you want to go that route, no you shouldn't. It's also why unprotected anal sex can lead to a plethora of disease that regular sex will not.

And people are not supposed to be overweight/obese by all metrics. It's not the natural state of humanity. This is something really recent, a product of a society that has never had more variety and ways of eating more and doing less. People don't always consciously make the best decisions for themselves. And people who are overweight/obese are in that category, that's why they end up afflicted with so many diseases, their dating pools are reduced, their reproduction chances are lower and they die earlier than healthy people who take care of themselves.

I don't like martial arts. I don't like skiing, hiking, climbing or motorcycles. (I really can't survive in the sticks, I prefer urban environments.)

The monk thing was just an example. I was trying to illustrate that I have different goals in life. Let's say in lieu of being a monk, I wanted to trade off a few years in exchange for a few more indulgences. So instead I'm dying at 90, but having a little more fun. Or what about 80 and a lot more fun? What about 70 and having the fucking time of my life?

My whole point is that a person's choices in life are highly personal. I love my vices. I enjoy life. It's certainly not the same life that Scott Glenn has, but I enjoy it nevertheless.

A life where I got to live an extra 30 years, but had to give up my vices, would be an exceptionally hollow life for me.

You define an exceptionally hollow life as not overeating and doing moderate exercise. That's not normal, no matter how you want to paint it.

As far as living with fewer less indulgences, do you know what kind of life people in their 50s upwards who have been overweight or obese their whole lives live? It's pretty fucking terrible. They get fatter, they get weaker, and normal daily tasks become monumental painful chores.

That's the real exceptionally hollow life. To be sitting around all day, doing nothing but eating, watching television or playing video as you are slowly dying, feeling terrible all the time.

And yes it's your choice, and you can decide to do that if you want, but why would you?
 
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