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[Breadbassket]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! IYRSE IS PURE! SHE WOULDNT EVEN LOOK AT ANOTHER MAN UNLESS ITS WAS ME!

seriously though. unicorn's are the worst part of the fanbase. i once thought people from the west would not fall for the "she's actually my wife because i stalk her" mentality like the outakus from the east dose. boy, was a proven wrong rather quickly. the ones in the west are even worse in some aspects.

Loneliness leads some people to do crazy and imbecilic things. Anime/manga has a whole "waifu" culture to them so its not surprising unicorns started appearing when Vtubers shot up in popularity. It doesn't help some streamers feed into such delusions for monetary reasons.

 

[KorokiKokoro]

How are you even supposed to respond to finding out that people have a meltdown over a male name on stream? Like, there is shit that is retarded enough that you can still explain why it's retarded but then there's shit like this that feels so ridiculous and out of left field that you're just left in complete shock that people of this caliber exist.

I fully predict within a year that someone is going to have a meltdown just because one of these women actually had a good father figure.

 

[Jewthulhu]

How are you even supposed to respond to finding out that people have a meltdown over a male name on stream?

The correct answer is to point and laugh

I fully predict within a year that someone is going to have a meltdown just because one of these women actually had a good father figure.

I'm predicting an arrest for irl stalking/assault/murder eventually.

 

[Japanese Beavis]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! IYRSE IS PURE! SHE WOULDNT EVEN LOOK AT ANOTHER MAN UNLESS IT WAS ME!

seriously though. unicorn's are the worst part of the fanbase. i once thought people from the west would not fall for the "she's actually my wife because i stalk her" mentality like the outakus from the east dose. boy, was a proven wrong rather quickly. the ones in the west are even worse in some aspects.

Yeah, it's part of idol culture they sign a contract to uphold an ideal. In proper idol culture when their identity is discovered or disgraced they get fired.

 

[cybertoaster]

So I been wondering, are there any vtubers that actually target kids? like actual innocent kid content, not "I look like a 11yo girl but I barely wear clothes and make sex jokes" but really a vtuber channel that makes stuff like cocomelon or whatever little kids are fed these days.

 

[Cowboy Kim]

So I been wondering, are there any vtubers that actually target kids? like actual innocent kid content, not "I look like a 11yo girl but I barely wear clothes and make sex jokes" but really a vtuber channel that makes stuff like cocomelon or whatever little kids are fed these days.

I'm 95% sure that doesn't exist.
Pretty good idea though, surprised to see that hasn't happened yet: A family friendly vtubing agency that play games E10+ and below.

 

[Mister Uno]

I really hope vtubers as a fad dies down. I am sure there will always be a few fairly popular ones but I am tired of seeing them everywhere.

 

[Breadbassket]

I'm 95% sure that doesn't exist.
Pretty good idea though, surprised to see that hasn't happened yet: A family friendly vtubing agency that play games E10+ and below.

A reason for why no Vtuber in particular aims to appeal to children is because they just don't have money the average waifu obsessed donator does. I don't mean in a poor way either, its just that kids don't really have easy access to large amounts of funds and can't operate most financial services due to age restrictions.

 

[Gravemind]

I really hope vtubers as a fad dies down. I am sure there will always be a few fairly popular ones but I am tired of seeing them everywhere.

I have a small suspicion that this is a trend that won't be dying away anytime soon, if ever, so long as the overall social culture continues staying (and mutating, to put it in a word) where it's been at for years now.

Vtubers are just a sort of branched off evolution of the e-girl. And it makes being an e-girl (or an e-boy in growing trends) all the more accessible for the people who aren't exactly photogenic. This, in turn, encourages those people to start showing off more of their real selves through some means or another. And we may get more and more newcalf behavior out of these people because of it.

 

[Jewthulhu]

So I been wondering, are there any vtubers that actually target kids? like actual innocent kid content, not "I look like a 11yo girl but I barely wear clothes and make sex jokes" but really a vtuber channel that makes stuff like cocomelon or whatever little kids are fed these days.

Yes.
He's been doing this for a while from what I understand. I like to joke that it's patient zero since I somehow heard about this before vtubers blew up (or at least before I was aware of vtubers)

 

[cybertoaster]

Yes.
He's been doing this for a while from what I understand. I like to joke that it's patient zero since I somehow heard about this before vtubers blew up (or at least before I was aware of vtubers)

Looks way more scripted, and the characters look animated rather than live mocap, also more targeted to preteens rather than little kids like cocomelon is.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Looks way more scripted, and the characters look animated rather than live mocap, also more targeted to preteens rather than little kids like cocomelon is.

Fair, though I assumed it was more for little kids. I'd still consider it a vtuber but that's just semantics at this point

I don't know how big livestreams are for little kids; most kids shit I know of are prerecorded. Live mocap and unscripted content seem entirely unnecessary if you aren't streaming.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Looks way more scripted, and the characters look animated rather than live mocap, also more targeted to preteens rather than little kids like cocomelon is.

I'm not really sure what the point would be of unscripted live streaming for kids. Even if you let them chat, what input are they going to have? And how are you going to moderate it? Would kids even understand moderation? Plus you can't get donations from an audience of 8 year olds. You'd be forced to deal with all kinds of headaches and risks for no real gain.

You're better off doing what they're doing, just pre-filming and editing videos that mimic the style.

Vtubers are just a sort of branched off evolution of the e-girl. And it makes being an e-girl (or an e-boy in growing trends) all the more accessible for the people who aren't exactly photogenic. This, in turn, encourages those people to start showing off more of their real selves through some means or another. And we may get more and more newcalf behavior out of these people because of it.

Tbh I feel like if anything that will make these people less likely to engage in cow behavior, because they know they can be easily replaced.

They're also going to be pressured into getting involved with an established talent group/virtual corporate brothel because they need marketing power or attachment to established names to rise above the chaff, and once they have management they're going to be forced to stay in line or else.
Let's not forget that in many cases these characters are created, owned, and marketed by the agencies themselves. The girl is basically just a paid actor who auditioned for the role.

As vapid as regular e-thots can be, I think they're going to tend to be more interesting. They get used to being attractive and it starts making them act stupid because they think they can get away with it.
Meanwhile some mousey girl who otherwise doesn't get much attention and has handlers breathing down her neck constantly is going to be a lot more likely to control herself.

The audience might act more like idiots, but I don't think the performers themselves will.

 

[Gravemind]

Tbh I feel like if anything that will make these people less likely to engage in cow behavior, because they know they can be easily replaced.

They're also going to be pressured into getting involved with an established talent group/virtual corporate brothel because they need marketing power or attachment to established names to rise above the chaff, and once they have management they're going to be forced to stay in line or else.
Let's not forget that in many cases these characters are created, owned, and marketed by the agencies themselves. The girl is basically just a paid actor who auditioned for the role.

As vapid as regular e-thots can be, I think they're going to tend to be more interesting. They get used to being attractive and it starts making them act stupid because they think they can get away with it.
Meanwhile some mousey girl who otherwise doesn't get much attention and has handlers breathing down her neck constantly is going to be a lot more likely to control herself.

The audience might act more like idiots, but I don't think the performers themselves will.

You do know there's a wide world of indies out there who don't have handlers, right?

More often than not, their influencers are nothing short of other indie vtubers and the power of peer pressure, coupled together with their own sense of independent expression which often leads to some really newcalf behavior.

 

[no-exit]

So I been wondering, are there any vtubers that actually target kids? like actual innocent kid content, not "I look like a 11yo girl but I barely wear clothes and make sex jokes" but really a vtuber channel that makes stuff like cocomelon or whatever little kids are fed these days.

https://youtube.com/@Cookieswirlc
I think she's one of the most subscribed VTubers. She was a pretty normal children's youtuber for a really long time (I think), but relatively recently replaced her facecam stuff with a vtuber model.

 

[cybertoaster]

Live mocap and unscripted content seem entirely unnecessary if you aren't streaming.

Isnt it way easier than animating in post tho? like most vtubers just use an iphone now right?

https://youtube.com/@Cookieswirlc
I think she's one of the most subscribed VTubers. She was a pretty normal children's youtuber for a really long time (I think), but relatively recently replaced her facecam stuff with a vtuber model.

Seems she moved to an older audience too, with that model I mean.

Like, a vtuber for kids would've to be 100% "wholesome" with no sex appeal whatsoever or else the karens are gonna start screeching,

 

[Jewthulhu]

Isnt it way easier than animating in post tho? like most vtubers just use an iphone now right?

It's a little easier (well, for the people undoubtedly paid to edit the videos), but having an animated avatar is definitely more appealing to young kids, and scripted/edited content is definitely better for keeping kids attention (as well as removing shit that will upset parents). I'd also have the potential be infinitely more expressive than a traditional vtuber model, even with a limited animation pool (though I'm not sure if they take advantage of that).

I don't think it'd be that much harder than a vtube model anyway. A few premade animations for talking/emoting, and get the editor drag and drop the right emote to the right time. Hell, I'm sure you could do the process in real time using audio recognition for the "talk" animation and an "emote" button like streaming vtubers do.

 

[Lester Jones]

Update on this man: He decided to retire without streaming because the women just won't stop. LMFAO

r/Nijisanji - ANYCOLOUR has announced Axia Krone graduated on November 30th

1,595 votes and 158 comments so far on Reddit

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Similar to that Vtuber's situation:
Top Nijisanji EN Vtuber Vox Akuma is dealing with some thirsty parasocial female shit and he has only himself to blame LMFAO

https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1599764218261098496

Redditors are even blaming him: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/zd7qna/voxs_changes_to_stream/

Vox has been catering to an infamously toxic type of viewer since pretty much debut and he's finally beginning to realize it's backfiring and his big ol' softie 'can't we all just get along and be nice to each other' attitude just isn't gonna cut it any more.

Why is the Argentine currency an issue?

The Argentinian peso (ARS) is the cheapest currency in circulation for super chatting, hence why many mainlander Chinese people (Taiwanese and Hong Kongers use their own currency) change their donation currency to ARS to get a cheaper red super chat (1,000 ARS, which is only ~6 USD as of 5 Dec 22), while others use their own currency. It's honestly like gentrification, in that rather than rich people moving to poorer places for bigger housing space, it's selfish people who want Vox's attention get more attention for less by using ARS, which is not only unfair, but very much the actions of stingy attention whores who don't care about giving proper thanks to Vox for entertaining them which in turn pays for Vox's bills and therapy.

They're even babying him as well, and he told his fans to stop:

Man's been raking cash money from these bitches, so I honestly don't feel bad for him:

 

[lolwatagain]

I'm not really sure what the point would be of unscripted live streaming for kids. Even if you let them chat, what input are they going to have? And how are you going to moderate it? Would kids even understand moderation? Plus you can't get donations from an audience of 8 year olds. You'd be forced to deal with all kinds of headaches and risks for no real gain.

You're better off doing what they're doing, just pre-filming and editing videos that mimic the style.

You could do something similar to Blues Clues or Dora the Explorer, where the kids are supposed to give input by chatting instead of screaming at a TV screen, but you would have to moderate the hell out of that chat. I'm sure that's one of the many reasons why a company like Nickelodeon or Sesame Street has never tried to do something like that. Maybe it could work if you could limit it to polls.

Pre-filming with the pause and "that's right, the answer is ______" that has been done for ages is still the best way to do it. I'm still not sure how these channels monetize with the COPPA rules, but there's clearly a lot of money involved.

 

[RotPockets]

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Male name on screen triggers yet another meltdown

https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/text/brian/start/2022-11-28/

https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/text/brian/deleted/deleted/start/2022-11-28/ (deleted posts means a janny definitely got mad about it)

On one hand, holobronies did it to themselves thinking this was a pure hafu maiden, on the other hand, learn how to separate your Switch profiles.
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That’s on her work Switch and it’s her rigger Brian Tsui, she has a separate Switch for playing Pokémon with her sister. She has mentioned several times about having to buy games a second time for her personal Switch to play with her sister. The only people spreading this are cuckbeats on /vt/. Kiara has also played on stream with her rigger. Gura and Ame have streamed with their Mama and Papa as well. This is a nothingburger.