Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Next Raid event is announced:
Tyranitar in 4&5 Star raids for Scarlet, Salamance in the same for Violet. No set Tera type, assuming they'll have decent IVs like all raid mons. Runs during the weekend, from the 9th to the 11th.

While I do love both of these guys, why they couldn't cut offline people a break and switch the two (Bagon is Violet exclusive while Larvitar is Scarlet exclusive), I simply do not know.

Wouldn’t you need to be online to access the special raid anyway?

 

[A-Stump]

It took me ten hours to get my first ever shiny through all the years of playing and I doubt I'll do it again. It made me realize it's been nearly my entire life and they still have no QoL features. Where's mass release? Where's the option to get rid of eggs? I've got 120 of the fucking things. These niggers make a sandwich simulator but not the simplest things to make me not go insane.

 

[Xenomorph]

For those of you who are playing S/V, has anyone been getting headaches from playing it? I heard that some people are experiencing motion sickness while playing the game, presumably due to things such as the FPS drops.

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And this is looking like SwSh's reviews again.

Arceus still reigns supreme.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

> An Azurill outbreak happens,
> Does the usual with the shiny sandwich
> Finds and catches a shiny Psyduck instead,

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

real lore on how he got in the elite 4

 

[Disc]

It took me ten hours to get my first ever shiny through all the years of playing and I doubt I'll do it again. It made me realize it's been nearly my entire life and they still have no QoL features. Where's mass release? Where's the option to get rid of eggs? I've got 120 of the fucking things. These niggers make a sandwich simulator but not the simplest things to make me not go insane.

By all accounts Sandwich Simulator is a much better shiny hunting method in this game.

That's not an excuse for not having features introduced in LA, but it's still worth saying. People are saying egg hunting is impossible while apparently drowning in the fucking things even without buffs in the overworld

 

[Gar For Archer]

As someone who enjoyed SWSH, I think I can explain.

The average Pokemon fan has never really given a shit about most of the criticism lobbied at the newer games.

The graphics are bad? I grew up with Gen 1. They've looked much worse.

The story is shit? That's nothing new. Gen 5's the only mainline game with a good one.

Rivals are bad? Outside of Gary, Silver, N, and I guess Hau, when haven't they been that?

Dexit happened? Boohoo, who cares? There's like over a thousand Pokemon. This was bound to happen eventually, and I'm not autistically obsessed over this one specific Pokemon that I caught over fifteen years ago to give a shit. Besides, I like using new Pokemon for the new games, anyway.

It's too easy? Bitch, I would've killed for an EXP Share like this when I was a kid because grinding for hours is tedious, boring, and annoying. Also, Pokemon's never been hard. It's just had a fucked-up level curve, broken mechanics, and unbalanced typing for most of its life.

It's too kid-friendly? 1) No shit, it's a fucking children's game, and 2) This isn't even true because the Dex entries get more, and more unsettling with every new gen, among other things.

It relies too heavily on gimmicks? Where have you been? This has been a thing since Gen fucking 3. Technically, Gen fucking 2 if you really think about it.

The new Pokemon are ugly/uninspired? Look me in the eye, and tell me that the Grimer, Geodude, Voltorb lines aren't that, too.

It's poorly programmed, and glitchy af? Gen 1 here again. Lemme tell you about Ghost, and Psychic-types in R/B/Y, as well as the Badge Boost glitch, Missingno, and the absolute clusterfuck that are the Celadon slots machines.

Pandering to Gen 1? Literally the only complaint I 100% agree with. This is dumb, and other Gens need more love. They need to stop whoring it out.

Etc, etc.

I think the issue is that people were exaggerating how bad new Pokemon games were that people stopped taking them seriously, and that a lot of the complaints felt like they were coming from spoiled, man-children who were upset about either trivial things like the series being too kid-friendly, or honestly reasonable things that we all saw coming like the Dexit.

Look, I'll admit that I have a very low standard for Pokemon games. So long as I can catch Pokemon, battle other trainers with them, train them, and trade them, I'm fine. I would like for them to more than that, but they really don't have to be for me to enjoy myself. I don't care if this makes me a braindead consoomer, or whatever. It's the truth.

Having said that, I think the pace of which Pokemon games have been coming out is fucking horrific, and that they are getting more, and more broken as time goes on. I like SWSH, but it does have issues (most notably lag), and the state BDSP were released in is inexcusable, and even more so with S/V.

Furthermore, I fully agree that Game Freak has no excuse. Saying they have more than enough money, power, and other shit to hire other people to work on games, and take a break in the meantime is the biggest understatement ever. For the life of me, I can't think of why they don't do this. If I had to guess, I think something must be happening behind the scenes to actively force them not to, because nothing else makes any sense? Greed? This is bestselling franchise of all time. I doubt it's that.

I would actually really like to know why this is happening, and I think once Game Freak finally does implode, I think we're gonna find out. I don't think S/V's gonna be the one that does them in, though. As buggy as Gen 9 is, it's at least fun, and (mostly) functional.

However, that last part isn't really saying much considering how it's even more broken than the last few games despite being made on the same console by the exact same people. I have a feeling Gen 10 is gonna be the final nail in the coffin because at the rate at which things are going, I can't see it not being that, or at least being something very close to it.

Tl;dr; Pokemon's always been this way, but Game Freak no longer has an excuse for it.

The only possible explanation is that someone high up at TPC hard mandates a new Pokémon generation every 3 years to keep up with the merchandising cycle. I personally doubt that it’s Gamefreak pushing for it, if anything they seem kinda frustrated that they’re forever going to be “the Pokémon studio” and will never be relevant in their own right. I doubt it’s even Nintendo calling the shots, as they’re actually not particularly involved in the day-to-day of Pokémon.

Another rumor I’ve heard is that GF management is incredibly conservative (in the non-political sense) and unwilling to change, and so still want to run GF as if it were a small studio despite the ridiculous demands put on them as “the Pokémon studio”. It’s the only possible explanation for why they still refuse to put voice acting in a Pokémon game, because there is no way that money is the issue here. When this much money is involved, I personally find general boomerism to be a more believable explanation than outright greed.

Either way, the big thing about this situation is that this release drama is actually blowing back on Nintendo. Seriously, when has Nintendo ever had to come out and made a statement promising to fix the game? When has Nintendo ever had to come out and actually give people refunds? This release reflects extremely poorly on them, and because they’re nips, facing this kind of public embarrassment regarding their #2 franchise (#1 if we go by revenue) actually yields a non-zero chance of them at least taking steps to ensure this never happens again. They don’t have enough stake in Pokémon to personally force changes, but 32% is nothing to sneeze at, and it’s definitely enough for them to throw their weight around and start make some demands.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Executive Petrel]

 

[Coelacanth]

Okay this is cute.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Okay this is cute.

I once saw someone on Twitter claim that the Tandemaus line was laziest design they've ever seen. How can you say that when Dudunsparce exist?

No offense, @Dunsparce

 

[Executive Petrel]

maushold is a cheap ripoff of pokemon clovers bunnorgy

 

[whatever I feel like]

Either way, the big thing about this situation is that this release drama is actually blowing back on Nintendo. Seriously, when has Nintendo ever had to come out and made a statement promising to fix the game? When has Nintendo ever had to come out and actually give people refunds?

Its not a specific apology for quality or refund or anything but there was a time not too long ago where Nintendo issued so many apologies that "we're sorry" became a Nintendo meme. Do you not remember the 3DS ambassador program, the Metroid and Zelda delays (still ongoing for Metroid), the Wii U drought?

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

maushold is a cheap ripoff of pokemon clovers bunnorgy
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Does Bunnorgy have a signature multi-hit move along with Technician as a HB?

 

[Executive Petrel]

Does Bunnorgy have a signature multi-hit move along with Technician as a HB?

It has hustle or speed boost and fur coat + huge power as hidden abiliteis.
Statline: 80/73/77/45/69/90 (434)
there is no population bomb on Bunnorgy but a fairy move called Pixie Pummel 120 power 80 acc.
The Moveset should be updated. Huge Power Population bomb would be Uber, currently it's UU in clovers own meta.

Showdown!

clover.weedl.es

 

[whatever I feel like]

Is it wrong that I think this person is retarded?

 

[Gar For Archer]

Its not a specific apology for quality or refund or anything but there was a time not too long ago where Nintendo issued so many apologies that "we're sorry" became a Nintendo meme. Do you not remember the 3DS ambassador program, the Metroid and Zelda delays (still ongoing for Metroid), the Wii U drought?

Apologizing for delayed games (which nobody really likes, but most reasonable people understand) isn’t really comparable to offering refunds and making a public commitment to patch the game, which is a tacit admission that they fucked up the release.

Like, Scarlet/Violet isn’t in the top 10 buggiest day 1 releases, probably not even in the top 25, and Nintendo isn’t even directly responsible for how it released (again, they’re pretty hands-off with Pokémon development), but Pokémon is still one of “their” franchises, and releasing a buggy game with terrible performance and then patching them months after release is something everyone expects from Western AAA devs, not Nintendo.

 

[Nick Gars]

It took me ten hours to get my first ever shiny through all the years of playing and I doubt I'll do it again. It made me realize it's been nearly my entire life and they still have no QoL features. Where's mass release? Where's the option to get rid of eggs? I've got 120 of the fucking things. These niggers make a sandwich simulator but not the simplest things to make me not go insane.

"Mass release"

You have no idea how fucking furious I am that they didn't include that feature. It was an absolute nessecity in PLA because of how quick and easy it was to flood your box with fresh catches without needing to battle (this system shouldn't of been removed either), so GF probably thought it wasn't needed....
But then they made it possible to generate over 100 eggs in 30 minutes... I usually release each batch of 5 as I go, only saving 6IV's, so I never flood my boxes, but my god does it eat up so much time when hatching is already monotonous as hell.

 

[Thorn]

"Mass release"

You have no idea how fucking furious I am that they didn't include that feature. It was an absolute nessecity in PLA because of how quick and easy it was to flood your box with fresh catches without needing to battle (this system shouldn't of been removed either), so GF probably thought it wasn't needed....
But then they made it possible to generate over 100 eggs in 30 minutes... I usually release each batch of 5 as I go, only saving 6IV's, so I never flood my boxes, but my god does it eat up so much time when hatching is already monotonous as hell.

There were so many great things PLA did that it honest to god gave me hope for the franchise again. The engine was good, the mechanics were good, the QoL changes were good, the battle system overhaul was frankly overdue, I outright said that this should be the future Pokemon should strive for. Modders have even begun tearing the walls down between the different regions of the game and finding out that the engine can support much more play space than what's actually in the game. Then you look at SV and can't help but wonder "what the fuck happened?"

 

[Executive Petrel]