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[Foxymophandlemama]

Even though I love true crime, this time of content makes me cringe so hard, specially the asian mukbang one, her videos are awful and she takes a fucking long time to tell the story. I prefer the ones that are actually respectful to the victims and their families that don't drag the video for too long for views and don't leave important details out.

The Dahmer show did a lot of damage, of course, but there's also the Bundy movie with Zac Efron and AHS with a pretty actor doing Richard Ramirez that didn't help AT ALL and made a lot of young women think that they were little lovely blorbos uwu.

And the Columbine ones, ugh. Bit of powerlevel but I knew two people who were killed in a school shooting and whenever someone praises Harris and Klebold in front of me I tell them that fact and watch their face go through a full range of emotions, it's hilarious.

To finish, I think that most of the people who are into true crime nowadays treat the cases as some fantastical fictional story, kind of like reading an Agatha Christie book, and forget that those were real people with families, dreams and a whole life ahead of them. It's easy to remove yourself and have zero empathy when this kind of content is so sensationalized and you haven't been affected in anyway by a heinous crime.

This thread has potential, I like it.

 

[Lead Sammich]

Another reason for youtube true crime vids sucking is that youtube demonitizes for anything too explicit, and the bar is very low for some things, unless youre one of there darlings. Its hard to make vids about true crime when mentioning murder or rape isnt even allowed.

Patreon type services are the obvious answer, but still. And they can still get permabanned if they post the wrong things, so theres that too. But yeah, its just too popular i think. And ive already heard most of the good stories lol.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

Casual Criminalist is the only true crime youtuber I like, mainly because he doesn't ho into explicit detail of the crimes and usually covers lesser-known cases

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

I saw that someone mentioned Bailey Sarian. Even though, in my personal opinion, I think her makeup looks are good 90% of the time (and I learned a thing or two from her videos and she has a tutorial playlist!), they aren't extraordinaire to hold an audience on their own, maybe that's why she decided to mix makeup with true crime. There are other videos that she talks about other stuff like urban legends and general horror stuff, which I enjoy more. But what truly brought her to fame was the true crime and I knoooow that she wants to be funny like if we were besties chatting about brutal murders, but she can't be unbiased at all, even though she shows a little bit of sympathy for the victims.

One thing is to talk about this kind of stuff when you are with your friends doing each other's makeup, other is making a channel around that. Rubs me the wrong way, I don't know. But she isn't the worst out there.

Edit: I think one way to judge a true crime channel is to watch a video of theirs talking about Junko Furuta. It's quite revealing.

 

[TokiBun]

I saw that someone mentioned Bailey Sarian. Even though, in my personal opinion, I think her makeup looks are good 90% of the time (and I learned a thing or two from her videos and she has a tutorial playlist!), they aren't extraordinaire to hold an audience on their own, maybe that's why she decided to mix makeup with true crime. There are other videos that she talks about other stuff like urban legends and general horror stuff, which I enjoy more. But what truly brought her to fame was the true crime and I knoooow that she wants to be funny like if we were besties chatting about brutal murders, but she can't be unbiased at all, even though she shows a little bit of sympathy for the victims.

One thing is to talk about this kind of stuff when you are with your friends doing each other's makeup, other is making a channel around that. Rubs me the wrong way, I don't know. But she isn't the worst out there.

Edit: I think one way to judge a true crime channel is to watch a video of theirs talking about Junko Furuta. It's quite revealing.

It comes off as inappropriate because it makes the presenter look like they’re distracted and unengaged. Jen from Fundie Friday’s can do her makeup in certain videos while talking about wacky fundie shirt because it’s fundie shit. Even she knows if it’s pedo Josh to put the makeup away, face the camera and talk seriously about the topic. The fact that these cunts don’t realize that still boggles my mind.

 

[BelUwUga]

What sucks is I feel like five or so years ago content made about true crime like podcasts or videos was more researched and respectful. I have no idea what lead in the water has lead to the community we have today.

Obviously that Dahmer show didn’t help.

Dahmer should be your indication that we're pretty late in the game if Netflix is even trying to get their nut. You had somewhat decent television covering these topics and you had a few people start to bring that over to the internet. Podcasts and videos started to come out and you only remember notable "survivors" because they stuck around. Even pre-adpocalypse/demonetization you had tons of flagrant plagiarism and other forms of mimicry. While this wasn't great, original creators had the benefit of being first and the "cream" still rose to the top.

Things like JCS getting shut down suddenly made it apparent to everyone that there was ravenous demand that was unfilled. Historical cases have been done to death, there's been enough success that myriad people think they have the formula figured out, and now we're literally in a race to the bottom. Taking the time to do due diligence or be respectful is a good way to ensure you're not the early bird getting the worm. For as detestable as Dahmer is, at least Netflix has the budget and resources to take an honest crack at it.

/r/RBI ("Reddit Bureau of Investigation") is a good place to observe "crowdsolving" and similar efforts. After the many failures of Reddit group-investigation the rules and posting has gotten pretty cucked though. You're way more likely to encounter someone slipping into a gangstalking delusion as you are real crime of any variety. /r/UnresolvedMysteries (not unsolved) is a fairly popular place for writeups. There's occasionally bickering or callouts between content creators and a steady revolving cast of youtubers/podcasters. The real treat is when you find crossposts to subreddits regarding specific cases. That is where the true insanity shines through. If I can remember any notable instances I'll edit them in. I really have to make a concerted effort to really only focus on content from "my" creators in this genre. The general incompetency and drama that abounds would make me grow to hate the subject if I thought about it too much.

 

[Android raptor]

True crime is fascinating but people who do shit like make yaoi of IRL murderers are creepy weirdoes.

Will always be haunted by the Josef Mengele mpreg fanfic I found on dA over a decade ago.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

Turns out, this whole crime scene cleaning includes multiple viral and sponsored Tik Tokers profiting off the death of others.
(Link to Buzzfeed article)

Here is another popular one, biggiecleans (calls himself Scrub Daddy and Sad Daddy), who does this for a living. And while he is a tad bit more sane than my previous example (more on them soon), he also is sponsored by that fucking Smiley Sponge company.

Your dead relatives and hoarder house neighbors can one day profit you too if you can swallow your pride and human decency!

 

[Meat Target]

You can tell whether a True Crime content creator is good or not by how they view the perp and the victim.

For example: Coffeehouse Crime always tries to give a eulogy for the victims, and Obscura came right out and said he wants to kill Nick Bate.

I, personally, have not watched any channels that flirt with hybristophilia.

 

[GenociderSyo]

There are entire reddits that atttempt to solve crimes with no oversight. There actually was an ID true crime show where the murderer almost got away cause of it being redditers getting involved which invalidated some of the evidence.

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

Think I found an interesting new character for the thread.
Meet Sadie Marshall, a star on the A&E show, Dirty Rotten Cleaners.



Sadie is a single mom in here 40s obsessed with clout and fame. Following the trend of crime scene cleaners, Sadie is an especially interesting one because she will do anything for clout, including showing off the remnants of a deceased person on TikTok for views.

Spoiler: Warning: It’s a human scalp

She likes to advertise her business, Sadie’s Pro Cleaning (located in New Haven, CT and Fort Myers, FL where she lives), posting the videos along with shitty rap songs.

Spoiler: Warning: More scalps

Here she is posting a video of the aftermath of a stabbing in the same vain. (Pun inteded)

Saddie, being that fat single mom she is, can’t just post the left overs of Little Suzie after a Chris Benoit special, she has to make it about herself.

(^Video from a potential assault that she uses to make some motivational point.)

Sadie is fat and I would not have sex with her.
She prioritizes wealth over human decency as well, having no problems posting her new cars and motivational speeches over suicide victim clean ups.
A B C D E
(Links to Facebook videos I didn’t feel like downloading)

Sadie will praise God for all the wonderful things she has been given, before immediately spitting in his face in favor of greed, pride, and clout.



Instagram
Facebook
Tik Tok
Website

 

[urr13 account]

True Crime Loser is the only decent true crime channel.

 

[Windows Error 98]

IMO there should be two threads
- this one for exploitative YouTubers/true crime content for 30+ white suburban moms
- the old “Serial Killer Fangirls” thread that should probably be retitled murderer fangirls by a mod since its mostly teenage girls who lust after school shooters.
There is like no overlap in these groups, so again, I don’t feel like it should be one thread.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

There are entire reddits that atttempt to solve crimes with no oversight. There actually was an ID true crime show where the murderer almost got away cause of it being redditers getting involved which invalidated some of the evidence.

Was that Don't Fuck With Cats, or another one where Redditors did dumb shit? All I remember from DFWC is that Redditors hounded a fragile man who then committed suicide. And the recent documentary about Elisa Lam revealed that there too websleuths almost harassed an innocent man into hurting himself.

 

[RollerGator]

Modern true crime sucks because people exploit the tragedies to practice their creative writing skills or to get famous and rich. I kinda hope that we get a true crime 'influencer' serial killer one day. Maybe BetterHelp will sponsor him too.

Old timey true crime fans were worse. After the Bath School Massacre in 1927, thousands of people from out of state showed up in town to gawk at the scene of the crime and take home pieces of the victims like pieces of intestines or skull shards as souvenirs.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Was that Don't Fuck With Cats, or another one where Redditors did dumb shit? All I remember from DFWC is that Redditors hounded a fragile man who then committed suicide. And the recent documentary about Elisa Lam revealed that there too websleuths almost harassed an innocent man into hurting himself.

It may have been the second case. All I remember from it is the redditors decided one guy was the criminal and they caused the police to not focus on the real one because of their behavior. And since evidence has to go through the chain of command and they were screwing up doing IRL investigating it made it harder to get him.

 

[Kiwisee]

I remember how True Crime Fans actually tried to investigate the murders of two girls, which led to several people from the girls’ hometowns getting harassed because they were convinced that they found the killer.

Edit: it was this case, and Dreading called out the TC community for playing detective

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

Dahmer should be your indication that we're pretty late in the game if Netflix is even trying to get their nut. You had somewhat decent television covering these topics and you had a few people start to bring that over to the internet. Podcasts and videos started to come out and you only remember notable "survivors" because they stuck around. Even pre-adpocalypse/demonetization you had tons of flagrant plagiarism and other forms of mimicry. While this wasn't great, original creators had the benefit of being first and the "cream" still rose to the top.

Things like JCS getting shut down suddenly made it apparent to everyone that there was ravenous demand that was unfilled. Historical cases have been done to death, there's been enough success that myriad people think they have the formula figured out, and now we're literally in a race to the bottom. Taking the time to do due diligence or be respectful is a good way to ensure you're not the early bird getting the worm. For as detestable as Dahmer is, at least Netflix has the budget and resources to take an honest crack at it.

/r/RBI ("Reddit Bureau of Investigation") is a good place to observe "crowdsolving" and similar efforts. After the many failures of Reddit group-investigation the rules and posting has gotten pretty cucked though. You're way more likely to encounter someone slipping into a gangstalking delusion as you are real crime of any variety. /r/UnresolvedMysteries (not unsolved) is a fairly popular place for writeups. There's occasionally bickering or callouts between content creators and a steady revolving cast of youtubers/podcasters. The real treat is when you find crossposts to subreddits regarding specific cases. That is where the true insanity shines through. If I can remember any notable instances I'll edit them in. I really have to make a concerted effort to really only focus on content from "my" creators in this genre. The general incompetency and drama that abounds would make me grow to hate the subject if I thought about it too much.

One of my first true crime rabbit holes was /r/UnresolvedMysteries and there are some really good write ups (ans updates) but I refrain from reading the comments but most of them are really retarded. There's one case I care about that is Brian Schaffer because I am a long time Pearl Jam fan (per my username) and his case is featured in the band's forum and the band has paid homage to him in a few Columbus show. But whenever his case gets posted I just roll my eyes because it's always the same bullshit.

My problem is that people get too emotionally involved with the cases, specially if children/runaways/single moms are involved. One thing is to have empathy for the victims and the family, other is getting too involved and somewhat making it about yourself, like in the Elisa Lam documentary on Netflix that one person talked about how he felt connected to her as if he knew her, like what the FUCK.

The Delphi murders from the post above me is another case that people are too emotionally involved. It's heartbreaking, sure, and they potentially recorded their murderer, but police can't release every fucking thing about the case or else the killer might get away with murder with the info. But no, they blame the police for "not doing their jobs". This isn't reality TV and they forget about that.

 

[Windows Error 98]

Was that Don't Fuck With Cats, or another one where Redditors did dumb shit? All I remember from DFWC is that Redditors hounded a fragile man who then committed suicide. And the recent documentary about Elisa Lam revealed that there too websleuths almost harassed an innocent man into hurting himself.

Those weren’t Redditors, those were Facebook users.

The only incident I can recall with Reddit is the Boston Bombing thing. We did it reddit!

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

The only good serial killers are Aileen Wuornos and Robert Maudsley, because they targeted exactly the sort of gross fucks that this lot simp for.