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[timtommy]

The way I see it, trolling acts as an echo chamber for Chris' weirder bits.

In order to "get in" with Chris, you have to fit yourself into his world view. So already you are parroting some of his shit back at him. Two of the most common tropes in his brain are the archrival man and the potential sweetheart woman. Trolls generally get sorted into one of those two categories, or they fade into oblivion. If he encounters a male, the male doesn't usually register unless he enrages Chris. If he encounters a female, he tends to classify her as a potential sweetheart, and if you are a troll trying to get some content, you roll with that classification a little bit.

So trolls become cartoonishly evil males, kind and caring women, or disappear instantly. Which just reinforces Chris' intial bias, creating a vicious circle.

Does that lead to his gender issues? It doesn't seem inevitable. It seems the logical path would be the "Only Good Guy" mentality, which we see from "nice guys". He seemed to circle around that for years, but never really settled into it. It just seems to me that you don't start cross-dressing because you hate men unless there is something else going on.

But I take @Marvin 's point that it isn't obvious he would have gone this far if it wasn't for trolling. Trolling has been such a big part of his life. It's difficult to speculate on how things would be for him without trolling, because you basically have to play out the last 10 years hypothetically. Way too many variables.

 

[AnOminous]

Chris was aggressively exposed to failure after failure after failure. Artificial failures, of course. And definitely more insane, bullshit failures than any normal person would've gone through.

Virtually nobody but Chris has ever had a failure in their life as spectacular as getting cucked out of their date by a guy in a pickle suit. And that's just one of the fucked up things that have happened to him. To him, this is the kind of thing that happens in life. His view on normality is probably highly skewed by this.

 

[Jack Awful]

It certainly wasn't a direct product of trolling.

People who think this is a temporary ploy to get china are really missing the picture.

Though no doubt he's using this as a way to try get China (though not the reason he switched)
(Hello my lady fans, lesbian sleepover, breast massage).
It's really interesting to see Chris act out what he thinks is the ideal woman:
Someone who shows their tits on PlayStation livestream and tries inviting random strangers over the internet for sex.
EDIT:
(I mean he's trying to use his transexuality to pick up chicks, even though that's not the reason he became a tomgirl)

 

[Marvin]

So trolls become cartoonishly evil males, kind and caring women, or disappear instantly. Which just reinforces Chris' intial bias, creating a vicious circle.

Does that lead to his gender issues? It doesn't seem inevitable. It seems the logical path would be the "Only Good Guy" mentality, which we see from "nice guys". He seemed to circle around that for years, but never really settled into it. It just seems to me that you don't start cross-dressing because you hate men unless there is something else going on.

If you try so hard at something for years but continually failing, you're going to try to analyze why you failed.

People think Chris isn't self critical. I don't think this is true. I think Chris has a solid capacity for introspection, it's just that he's perpetually given an out. So if Chris fucks up, he'll pause for a moment and think "huh, what could I have done to prevent that?". But as soon as the thought enters his mind, he's got someone on hand to tell him it's not his fault.

He doesn't really have that when it comes to finding a sweetheart. No matter how many times people tell him he's awesome, he can't reconcile that with the fact that he doesn't have a sweetheart.

And I know this seems like I'm kinda contradicting myself when I say he's not doing this for pussy. The thing is that getting a sweetheart is essential to his whole conception of the world. Getting a girlfriend is just what's supposed to happen, you shouldn't have to work for it. Chris genuinely believes romantic comedies reflect real life. Chris thinks that because he hasn't gotten a girl yet, there's something fundamentally wrong with him. With his whole life. He thinks his whole life is fucked because he's a man. Because men are evil.

Chris is trying to fix his whole life by becoming a woman. (His fetishism of women turns this from a random thought, into a burned in, almost religious tenet.)

Virtually nobody but Chris has ever had a failure in their life as spectacular as getting cucked out of their date by a guy in a pickle suit. And that's just one of the fucked up things that have happened to him. To him, this is the kind of thing that happens in life. His view on normality is probably highly skewed by this.

It's so bizarre. When I'm bored with lolcows, I just go to work. Or hang out with friends. Or watch tv or something. Chris lives every day in a world with picklemen and Clyde Cashes and Tito the hawaiian.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

Virtually nobody but Chris has ever had a failure in their life as spectacular as getting cucked out of their date by a guy in a pickle suit. And that's just one of the fucked up things that have happened to him. To him, this is the kind of thing that happens in life. His view on normality is probably highly skewed by this.

Skewed normality and the imagination of a retarded child. During the poster campaign, Chris invented the idea that people in clown masks were coming after him. Nobody mentioned anything like that. He invented it and then got scared by it.

Wait, this is the Barb thread?

 

[Katolate]

I want to point out that Chris' scoofs with law and authorities date from way before the internet discovered him.

His bitching against his college's dean, his banning from malls, his loitering scoofs and issues creeping out women were all his own.

 

[timtommy]

Though no doubt he's using this as a way to try get China.
(Hello my lady fans, lesbian sleepover, breast massage).
It's really interesting to see Chris act out what he thinks is the ideal woman:
Someone who shows their tits on PlayStation livestream and tries inviting random strangers over the internet for sex.

Well, he does use it to try and get lesbian sex. But that doesn't mean easier access to china was a motivating factor. Suppose he does it entirely because he feels some genuine gender dysphoria. Now he starts dressing and acting as a woman to make himself more comfortable, but he still wants to have sex with women. Seeking women in the LGBT community is the logical choice. Granted he is doing it in an incredibly fucked up way.

 

[Jack Awful]

Well, he does use it to try and get lesbian sex. But that doesn't mean easier access to china was a motivating factor. Suppose he does it entirely because he feels some genuine gender dysphoria. Now he starts dressing and acting as a woman to make himself more comfortable, but he still wants to have sex with women. Seeking women in the LGBT community is the logical choice. Granted he is doing it in an incredibly fucked up way.

I know, I'm saying it's interesting seeing Chris act how he believes a woman should (particularly his ideal woman).

 

[AW 006]

(I mean he's trying to use his transexuality to pick up chicks, even though that's not the reason he became a tomgirl)

His being a tranny in order to seduce women comes from Chris' warped logic and ego. Chris thinks he's a catch and can't get why women wouldn't fall over themselves to ride his broken duck. At first girls told him they had "boyrfriends" and in Chris' view that was the only obstacle in his getting sweet tom-tom to pound. So he made signs for "boyfriend free" girls and blamed other men for taking all the good women. It went onto Chris blaming his lack of pussy on trolls, Then the asexuality of potential sweethearts and most recently technology and not looking up from phones. Chris is trying to comprehend why women aren't approaching or readily available to him. At some point he's probably been rejected by a woman saying they were gay or all that lesbian porn has rotted his brain but by being a transsexual lesbian woman with a dick means he must tick all the boxes for every woman right?

I think the Tomgirl saga and cross dressing for Chris is a way to excuse his more feminine interests and personality without appearing gay. But because it's Chris he's fucked up spectacularly.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Skewed normality and the imagination of a retarded child. During the poster campaign, Chris invented the idea that people in clown masks were coming after him. Nobody mentioned anything like that. He invented it and then got scared by it.

My cousin did that once.

He was three at the time.

 

[PacSol]

My cousin did that once.

He was three at the time.

Shit like this is adorable when they're three. When they're thirty-four, not so much.

 

[Mashed Potato Grenade]

Virtually nobody but Chris has ever had a failure in their life as spectacular as getting cucked out of their date by a guy in a pickle suit.

Well to be honest, if I was a girl meeting for the first time a guy -- and he brings his octogenarian father to the date, I'd go with the first man in a pickle suit that comes across.

 

[trueandhonestfan]

People who think this is a temporary ploy to get china are really missing the picture.

To be fair things like Chris' male lesbian identity kind of reinforce (not sure if justify is more suitable) that idea.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Well, he does use it to try and get lesbian sex. But that doesn't mean easier access to china was a motivating factor. Suppose he does it entirely because he feels some genuine gender dysphoria. Now he starts dressing and acting as a woman to make himself more comfortable, but he still wants to have sex with women. Seeking women in the LGBT community is the logical choice. Granted he is doing it in an incredibly fucked up way.

Hating men ≠ Gender dysphoria

 

[Marvin]

To be fair things like Chris' male lesbian identity kind of reinforce (not sure if justify is more suitable) that idea.

I know why people think that. It's a logical conclusion. But people don't realize how deep the gender stuff runs.

Chris feels he deserves women regardless. The male lesbian stuff is him adapting his strategy to his gender identity, not vice versa.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

People think Chris isn't self critical. I don't think this is true. I think Chris has a solid capacity for introspection, it's just that he's perpetually given an out. So if Chris fucks up, he'll pause for a moment and think "huh, what could I have done to prevent that?". But as soon as the thought enters his mind, he's got someone on hand to tell him it's not his fault.

He doesn't really have that when it comes to finding a sweetheart. No matter how many times people tell him he's awesome, he can't reconcile that with the fact that he doesn't have a sweetheart.

He could easily think "huh, what if I don't have a heartsweet because people who tell me I'm awesome are wrong?" He doesn't. From what has been shown, he is merely "selectively self critical," only choosing to think critically when the possible conclusions don't hurt his ego, and only going for solutions that further protects his ego from other people, which really isn't self critical at all but just critical of other people.

In short, "Huh, what can I do to stop the harassment from trolls, which is what I call everybody who contradicts me?" is not really self critical if you think about it.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Chris is such a spineless pussy, he'll back down if challenged on almost any of his beliefs... But he won't even let barb bully him out of tomgirl. That should tell you something about his sincerity.

 

[AW 006]

Chris is such a spineless pussy, he'll back down if challenged on almost any of his beliefs... But he won't even let barb bully him out of tomgirl. That should tell you something about his sincerity.

But Does Barb have any influence over Chris now? I got the impression he sees her as a burden he'll be left with rather than his beloved mommy

 

[AnOminous]

But Does Barb have any influence over Chris now?

She has as much influence over him as anyone. I don't think she has the energy any more to force much out of him and probably uses guilt and wheedling more than threats at this point. He's still not going to stand up to her over shit that isn't really important to him. IMO of course.

 

[Marvin]

He could easily think "huh, what if I don't have a heartsweet because people who tell me I'm awesome are wrong?" He doesn't. From what has been shown, he is merely "selectively self critical," only choosing to think critically when the possible conclusions don't hurt his ego, and only going for solutions that further protects his ego from other people, which really isn't self critical at all but just critical of other people.

In short, "Huh, what can I do to stop the harassment from trolls, which is what I call everybody who contradicts me?" is not really self critical if you think about it.

I think he's selectively self critical because he's permitted to. If he got desperate enough, he'd start introspecting a lot more.

Like, I've observed Chris consider the possibility that he's unattractive once. Only once. He's tried pretty much everything he can think of to get a girlfriend. So he finally came around to consider the possibility that he might be ugly. Of course, he had an asspatter on hand to tell him that, not only is he not ugly, but rather that he's actually super beautiful, the most beautiful person the asspatter has ever seen!

Welp, that nipped that in the bud!

But Does Barb have any influence over Chris now? I got the impression he sees her as a burden he'll be left with rather than his beloved mommy

Heh, I think Chris is still very afraid of Barb, but like @AnOminous says, she doesn't have the energy to assert control over Chris too aggressively nowadays. So it's like a weird situation where Chris essentially runs the household, but he doesn't realize it yet.