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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have announced they will step back as "senior" royals and work to become financially independent.

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In a statement, Prince Harry and Meghan also said they plan to split their time between the UK and North America.

The BBC understands no other royal - including the Queen or Prince William - was consulted before the statement and Buckingham Palace is "disappointed".

Senior royals are understood to be "hurt" by the announcement.

In their unexpected statement on Wednesday, also posted on their Instagram page, the couple said they made the decision "after many months of reflection and internal discussions".

"We intend to step back as 'senior' members of the Royal Family and work to become financially independent, while continuing to fully support Her Majesty The Queen."

They said they plan to balance their time between the UK and North America while "continuing to honour our duty to the Queen, the Commonwealth, and our patronages".

"This geographic balance will enable us to raise our son with an appreciation for the royal tradition into which he was born, while also providing our family with the space to focus on the next chapter, including the launch of our new charitable entity."

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said discussions with the duke and duchess on their decision to step back were "at an early stage", adding: "We understand their desire to take a different approach, but these are complicated issues that will take time to work through."

The couple's announcement on Wednesday comes two months after the Duke of York withdrew from public life after a BBC interview about his ties to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August.

 
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How is it possible, that everytime, Harry looks dumber and dumber when he speaks. He looks like a ginger stupid monkey who struggles to remember and pronounce simple words and make coherent sentences:

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He is so inarticulate, I would totally believe he's mentally and intellectually impaired.
Is he on some drugs/medecine/alcohol?

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One of harry's "jobs" consists in conferences in banking.
What experience does he hold in banking (besides letting trust funds manage all the money he inherited)?
He burned all bridges with reliable network, his behavior and wife are trashy. He can't even dress decently for the amount of money he has.
Is it something like Le diner de cons, where his speech and look are meant to amuse his audience?
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How is it possible, that everytime, Harry looks dumber and dumber when he speaks. He looks like a ginger stupid monkey who struggles to remember and pronounce simple words and make coherent sentences:

He is so inarticulate, I would totally believe he's mentally and intellectually impaired.
Is he on some drugs/medecine/alcohol?
He’s congenitally thick. Despite going to Eton and probably having endless extra tutoring he only did two A Levels- art and geography, even though three is standard. He got a B in Art, as it’s almost impossible to fail, and a spectacular D in Geography. He didn’t even go to university and do a classic posh thickie degree like his brother. His shoes probably have R and L written inside them so he puts them on the correct feet.
Its also been a badly kept sectret for years that he was heavily into blow.
 
"Harry, are they saying booo?"
"No, no, they're saying Buuuckingham!"

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A coalition of political grandees, senior military figures and respected historians last night urged the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to stay away from next year’s Coronation following the fallout from their incendiary Netflix series.​
Amid a chorus of highly regarded voices calling on Harry and Meghan to stay at home, one former Cabinet Minister said the couple ‘categorically should not be’ at Westminster Abbey when Charles is crowned on May 6.​
An explosive poll has also revealed that nearly half of Britons believe that the Sussexes should have their royal titles stripped from them - and forty two per cent believe Harry should no longer be in the line of succession.​
The intervention comes days after the first episodes of the series included Harry’s claims of ‘unconscious bias’ regarding race in the Royal Family; an inflammatory description of the late Queen’s beloved Commonwealth as ‘Empire 2.0’; and Meghan’s ostentatious parody of a curtsey.​
Former Conservative leader Iain Duncan Smith told The Mail on Sunday: ‘If they dislike the Royal Family so much why would they attend the Coronation?’​
Fellow Tory veteran David Mellor echoed the sentiment, saying: ‘They shouldn’t come to the Coronation. They categorically shouldn’t come.​
‘They make money out of selling their family down the river. I think it should be made clear that the British people do not want them there.’​
He also suggested that people ‘would be perfectly entitled to boo if the couple did turn up’, adding: ‘They are a sad pair and there is no hope for them on their current course.’​
Lady Antonia Fraser, the historian and author, added: ‘I hope they don’t come because I want the King and Queen to be the centre of attention. It worries me that if they come the cameras might waste time on them. They should stay holding hands in Hollywood.’​
A poll for The Mail on Sunday today reveals almost half the public agree the couple should be barred from the Coronation.​
Also, twice as many people think Prince Harry should be excluded from the line of succession and be stripped of his Duke Of Sussex title, compared to those who believe they should be allowed to maintain their status.​
Yesterday, yet another trailer was released to promote the final three episodes of the Netflix show, which will be released on Thursday.​
In it, Harry and Meghan reveal that their first dance on their wedding night was to Wilson Pickett’s Land Of 1,000 Dances, with Meghan saying she was ‘spinning like a whirlwind’.​
As well as details of their romance, the new instalments are expected to contain even more explosive material covering the couple’s break with the Royal Family. In the first episodes, Harry asserted that a ‘race element’ meant Meghan was ‘treated differently’ from others.​
The Mail on Sunday can today also reveal that:​
Thomas Markle has vehemently denied his daughter’s allegation that someone else used his phone to text her while he was in hospital;​
Palace insiders rejected Meghan’s claims they advised her not to invite her niece to her wedding to Harry;​
Commonwealth chiefs have angrily hit back at the suggestion it is ‘Empire 2.0’;​
Prince William is understood to be ‘infuriated’ by Harry’s inclusion of a clip from their mother’s Panorama interview, which Martin Bashir obtained by deceit, in the programme.​
When asked about all the allegations made in the show, a palace insider echoed the late Queen’s comment after the couple’s earlier allegations, saying: ‘Yet again, many recollections may be varying.’​
It is understood that the Royals still regard Meghan, Harry and their children as ‘much-loved’ members of the family, and intend to invite them to the Coronation.​
However, leading members of the Establishment last night united in their call for them to stay away, including one senior Tory MP who said: ‘I wouldn’t have them attending anything in my constituency, let alone the Coronation.’​
Another Tory MP, Bob Seely, said: ‘If I were them I’d stay away – but they obviously want to attend and monetise it afterwards.’​
The now retired Rear Admiral Chris Parry said of the Duke and Duchess: ‘I think they have forfeited their rights to be part of the Royal Family any more. Frankly, they have shown themselves to be unreliable in terms of recording things and reporting them.​
‘The Coronation is another red carpet event for them – and they are likely to tread and tell. They are not consistent with the dignity and the importance of the occasion.’​
Eminent historian Lord Andrew Roberts said there are many precedents for excluding the couple.​
‘Queen Caroline wasn’t invited to George IV’s Coronation, The Duke and Duchess of Windsor weren’t at George VI’s in 1937, and Elizabeth II’s German relations weren’t invited in 1953, so there’s plenty of precedent for not inviting people who would be a distraction to and detraction from the focus of the great day,’ he said.​
A representative poll of 2,065 British adults for this newspaper found that 28 per cent of people though that Harry and Meghan should be banned from the Coronation, and 31 per cent though they should be allowed to attend.​
When the 41 per cent who did not express a view are excluded those figures are 47 per cent and 53 per cent respectively.​
Asked by pollsters Findoutnow if the couple should lose their Duke and Duchess of Sussex titles, 44 per cent said yes and 19 per cent no. Similar numbers were for and against them losing their place in the line of succession.​
One expert said that the allegations the couple made in the Netflix programme presented a security risk to the serving members of the Royal Family.​
Dai Davies, former head of Royal protection, said: ‘I feel very strongly about this. We don’t know what poison will come out next, but when considering what has been said, be it half-truth, lie or mockery of the Royal Family, how can anyone want them to be invited to the Coronation?​
‘The presentation of the monarchy and the Commonwealth as being racist is an insult to Britain and Britons.​
‘This also gives rise to a very serious security issue.​
‘The false narrative presented in this series could give rise to people with a fixation on the Royal Family to enact their fantasies.’​
Margaret Holder, a Royal author, said: ‘I think the Sussexes will simply not be invited to events, or they will be advised diplomatically not to attend, because it would mean all attention goes on them and not on the Royal Family.’​
 
The question is whether the "coalition of political grandees, senior military figures and respected historians" are really bearing a message from King Charles himself.

Of course it would do for the king to make an official public announcement saying they are not invited, and perhaps he already spoke to Harry privately.

Meghan: You gonna let your old man boss you around?
 
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Harry and Meghan on Netflix: They lied to protect my brother, claims Harry​

"They were happy to lie to protect my brother, they were never willing to tell the truth to protect us," says Prince Harry in the latest trailer for the Harry and Meghan series on Netflix.

Ahead of the second half of the series, the trailer shows the couple saying why they stepped down from royal duties.

"I wasn't being thrown to the wolves, I was being fed to the wolves," says Meghan.

Prince Harry blamed "institutional gaslighting".

Buckingham Palace has not commented on the Netflix series and so far has not responded to these latest clips.

"I said, 'We need to get out of here,'" says Prince Harry in the trailer for the final three episodes being released on Thursday.

However this brief teaser does not yet say who is being accused of lying or undermining the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, or who was manipulating how they were seen by the public.

But the tone suggests some more hard-hitting claims, after the first half of the documentary series had fewer bombshells or specific revelations than expected.

The most potentially controversial moment is the reference to Prince William - with the trailer showing the two royal brothers together.

The commentary from Prince Harry claims: "They were happy to lie to protect my brother", but without saying who "they" were or the context in which Prince William was being protected.

"I wonder what would have happened to us had we not got out when we did?" says Prince Harry, who now lives with Meghan in California.

Meghan speaks of security worries - and a clip shows Prince Harry saying they were on a "freedom flight", suggesting that this was their departure away from the pressure they felt around them in the UK.

Also appearing in the trailer was Christopher Bouzy, who set up a tech company that researches abuse and misinformation on social media. He says: "They were actively recruiting people to disseminate disinformation."

There are clips of the couple enjoying their new life in the sunshine, but Prince Harry adds: "To move to the next chapter, you've got to finish the first chapter."

After so much hype, the first three episodes drew mixed reviews on both sides of the Atlantic, with questions about how much of the information was new.

Audience figures in the UK on the launch day of the first part of the series showed 2.4 million viewers watched the first instalment, episode two had 1.5 million viewers on the first day, and the third part attracted 800,000.

These were higher audience figures than for The Crown, but below the 3.5 million who watched that evening's episode of the soap opera Coronation Street.
 
In it, Harry and Meghan reveal that their first dance on their wedding night was to Wilson Pickett’s Land Of 1,000 Dances, with Meghan saying she was ‘spinning like a whirlwind’.
Truly a dignified first dance befitting a royal wedding.

Would pay money for video of the look on Elizabeth and Philip's faces when that was playing.
 
Nobody's gonna miss them when they eventually have an accident in some LA tunnel.

Every time I see her I’m always amazed by how white she is. It’s a wonder no coal black colored women have called her out on her light skin privilege.
The word is "mulatta". Or, if you want to be more specific, "sacalagua": white with black features.
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A lot of the supposed racism is just the Britbong love/hate relationship with Yanks. The last time one got involved with the monarchy it didn’t go well.
Some has a fairly firm foundation. Here's Lizzie talking about meeting some African dignity back in I guess the fifties or sixties. She sounds about as thick as Meghan.

 
The above snippets seem to just suggest Harry finally twigged what being "The Spare" actually means for him.

Also of course Meghan worried about security and will ballyhoo that her Archie should of had the same level of security as his cousins


Has the show actually had anything Juicy as it seems interesting that they released the first batch but now going "no seriously the juicy stuff is in the second half!!!"
 
Megan wants the Hollywood/Kardashian/Paris Hilton type fame. Where not only does she have mansions, but also toadying yes men, a posse, recognition where whenever she enters any restaurant/hotel the whole place bows down to her whims. She wants the "Madonna demands a new toilet seat daily" level of fawning. She thought royalty was that goal, but what she wants is the stupidly wasteful Saudi prince level of wealth, mixed with the A-lister Hollywood actress level of fame.
In that case, she should have gone for Mohammad bin Salman but imagine being one among many concubines in a far stricter atmosphere if you were in that bint's stilettos.
 
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