Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny - Using time travel to literally retcon the series

[Adamska]

https://twitter.com/JonasJCampbell/status/1602853149018099712

a slip that there is a new ending being filmed, I guess the panic mode is really true.

Honestly it's either that or Kennedy interfered again. She has a stupid habit of forcing movies to cost twice as much as they should by not checking shit until it's near done, and then throwing it all out and firing people. Then she'll hire a workman to try and patch something together.

I suspect they will have Indy die still, though they might change the "erased forever" element because of the universal rejection.

 

[Xerxes IX]

https://twitter.com/JonasJCampbell/status/1602853149018099712

a slip that there is a new ending being filmed, I guess the panic mode is really true.

Again?

Disney's strategy of coming up with a terrible movie concept, panicking when it's leaked and people hate it, and re filming it to be something audiences will hate less is a big part of why modern movies are nothing but consumer slop. Actors don't even fucking know what's happening in the scenes they're filming because of all the CGI and green screen and the studios think this is a good thing because it prevents leaks.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Honestly it's either that or Kennedy interfered again. She has a stupid habit of forcing movies to cost twice as much as they should by not checking shit until it's near done, and then throwing it all out and firing people. Then she'll hire a workman to try and patch something together.

I suspect they will have Indy die still, though they might change the "erased forever" element because of the universal rejection.

Yeah if Indy dies they'll just try to make it some heroic death like what happened to Wolverine in Logan or Iron Man in Endgame, but probably lamer.

 

[Travoltron]

I'm going to shave my head if something Doomcock said turned out to be true.

Here's the deal with him. If it's good news, like "Kathleen Kennedy is getting fired!", it's bullshit,
If it's bad news, "They're killing off Indy and replacing him with Phoebe Waller-Bridge", it's probably true.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

I'm fine with Indy just dying even if it undoes Old Indiana from The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
tbh shooping Old version of New Girl into a bumper from that would be kinda neat instead of just a dumb pile of shit, and she tells some kid about the legend of Indiana Jones

 

[Calandrino]

Voila! Leftists get their evil Nazis, right-wingers get their evil Communists and I fixed the basic plot of your movie. Fellow Kiwis! Feel free to add more!

PRESIDENT GERALD FORD: Thank you for saving the universe, Dr. Jones. I would like you to meet my friend who is a film director and knows about America's secret outer space program.

GEORGE LUCAS: Hello, I am making a movie based on real space aliens I have met and you look perfect for the space pirate part, now that you drank that magic de-aging potion.

INDIANA JONES: Hi my name is (*notices George Lucas's hair*) Harry... Harrison (*notices president*)... Ford. Harrison Ford. Your science fiction film is sure to fail and make no money, but I will tell you about my adventures and maybe you can make movies about them.

*all laugh*

 

[Kari Kamiya]

https://twitter.com/JonasJCampbell/status/1602853149018099712

a slip that there is a new ending being filmed, I guess the panic mode is really true.

Cowards can't commit to their own visions because each time they get caught, they have to backpedal to avoid the torches and pitchforks coming their way. We saw this happen to Rise of Skywalker, the same convoluted mess will occur again in Dial of Destiny. I have more respect for Rian Johnson at this point for sticking to his guns about how much he fucked up The Plan™, and the asshat deserves that ire.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Much like Star Wars, three movies were more than enough for the Indiana Jones franchise.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

Indiana Jones and The Destiny of Dementia!

 

[Kulee Baba]

I'm fine with Indy just dying even if it undoes Old Indiana from The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
tbh shooping Old version of New Girl into a bumper from that would be kinda neat instead of just a dumb pile of shit, and she tells some kid about the legend of Indiana Jones

I disagree. I'm still mad at No Time To Die for having the nerve to kill Bond. To this day I consider Star Trek Generations to pretty much be tainted for it having the nerve to have Captain Kirk die.

Adventure film franchises ideally should be written well with clever deeper meanings for viewers who care to notice such things. Raiders of The Lost Ark certainly did that and if you like Youtuber Essays I highly recommend Rob Ager's video on the masterpiece. But at the end of the day they still should be able to be enjoyed as nothing more than mindless popcorn content. The heroes should win period, if one dies they should get resurrected in the sequel ala Star Trek 2-3. The baddies should get what's coming to them. That's not to say I abhor leads dying, I enjoyed Mangold's Logan. But Logan was not a movie you take an 8 year old to see.

There's only one way for such a movie to end without being moronic, Indiana Jones should ride in to the sunset. Which is how it should have ended with Last Crusade.

 

[Corbax]

I disagree. I'm still mad at No Time To Die for having the nerve to kill Bond. To this day I consider Star Trek Generations to pretty much be tainted for it having the nerve to have Captain Kirk die.

I wouldn't mind his death if it wasn't so mind boggling stupid. I also resent the movie for destroying the Enterprise D in a simularly dumb manner.

 

[Zemporer]

I disagree. I'm still mad at No Time To Die for having the nerve to kill Bond. To this day I consider Star Trek Generations to pretty much be tainted for it having the nerve to have Captain Kirk die.

I still feel Kirk's death would have been justified if he died on the bridge of a starship. Falling down a mountain... not so much.

I still haven't watched No Time to Die once I heard Bond dies. It gets tiresome after awhile watching our cinematic "heroes" get killed off.

 

[UnKillFill]

To this day I consider Star Trek Generations to pretty much be tainted for it having the nerve to have Captain Kirk die.

Generations isn't horseshit just because Kirk died. It's horseshit because he died unnecessarily, for nothing, in just about the stupidest way possible.

And yet, they were still able to make him look massively more competent than Picard while doing it... Unlike this shit.

 

[TomServo]

Indiana Jones and the Film No One Wanted.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

I wouldn't mind his death if it wasn't so mind boggling stupid. I also resent the movie for destroying the Enterprise D in a simularly dumb manner.

Murdering the Enterprise D like that is one of the most unforgivable things they have ever done in the Trek franchise. As if once the first torpedo bypassed the shield that wouldn't have gone to a randomized shield frequency rotation. They have done it before when the shields weren't protecting them from something. What, they just suddenly forgot about that? Not only do they have the ability to randomize the shield frequency, they can even randomize its shape if needed.

 

[Safir]

the Western veterans who fought the actual German war machine have been cordial with their former enemies for decades now.
I saw a video on the Bovington Tank Museum YT channel earlier this year and a British tanker wanted to shake hands with a German one when he learned that he fought in the Battle of Kursk.

I don't expect much of a horsefucking faggot, but could you please help me find Kursk on the map of Britain? Thanks!

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Honestly it's either that or Kennedy interfered again. She has a stupid habit of forcing movies to cost twice as much as they should by not checking shit until it's near done, and then throwing it all out and firing people. Then she'll hire a workman to try and patch something together.

I suspect they will have Indy die still, though they might change the "erased forever" element because of the universal rejection.

I doubt they are taking out the erased and replaced part. This is the core concept of the movie, they made the movie in order to get to that event. It's beyond a plot point, really. It is not a storytelling tool but rather a business tool to reboot the hole thing on the grounds of Kathy's ego and deep seated hatred for the men responsible for these movies. We all know she's not saying no to that. She has never backpedaled in any of her autistic obsessions.

She didn't backpedal on anything Rey, for example.

The damage control I'm expecting they're doing is a few underpaid soy writers sweating and dying of anxiety, coming up with fixed scripts that ignore the elephant on the room because she won't hear anything about the REAL issue. And it will translate into a tortured script that dances around a huge horrifying feature without acknowledging it. Like Rise of Skywalker.

They are probably ignoring WHAT (and the WHY) upset people and focusing in minor aspects that will turn the script very unstable and inconsistent. Also, they are totally not getting Ford to redo scenes. They guy is a passive aggressive bitch.

 

[ZMOT]

Murdering the Enterprise D like that is one of the most unforgivable things they have ever done in the Trek franchise. As if once the first torpedo bypassed the shield that wouldn't have gone to a randomized shield frequency rotation. They have done it before when the shields weren't protecting them from something. What, they just suddenly forgot about that? Not only do they have the ability to randomize the shield frequency, they can even randomize its shape if needed.

eh, they wanted a new ship and came up with a plothole to have a new one. sucks but nerds are easily placated if they get new stuff.

kirk dying (even when rolling down a mountain) was.. ok. sure, could've been better, but people die to all kinds of shit, so it's more realistic? grounded? dunno. still helped stop the bad guy, so I guess it counts for something. but I'm also not a kirk-guy, so I probably have a different perspective.

however, those deaths are ok imo because those are single characters with their own single arc, which is over at some point. bond otoh was never the actor, that stopped with connery decades ago. bond riding off into the sunset and suddenly looking different next movie was always the accepted change people were conveniently ignoring. shoving their face into it "no, bond IS dead, but no, bond will ALSO return" kinda breaks that unspoken deal with the audience. no to mention it feels like the writers wanted their cake (bond dies, for real!) and eat it to (but bond will never die!)

indy had lot less movies than bond, the role is still heavily tied to the actor. so I expect the reaction will be somewhere inbetween. if they just wanted to replace ford there are much better ways to do it, even if it's just his son picking up the name with an extra junior. if the movie and new actor is good no one will give a shit anyway.

 

[Michael Wade]

eh, they wanted a new ship and came up with a plothole to have a new one. sucks but nerds are easily placated if they get new stuff.

kirk dying (even when rolling down a mountain) was.. ok. sure, could've been better, but people die to all kinds of shit, so it's more realistic? grounded? dunno. still helped stop the bad guy, so I guess it counts for something. but I'm also not a kirk-guy, so I probably have a different perspective.

It maybe becouse I grew up with it, but for some reason I was always very accepting of the way kirk died. I think it had something to do with the fact that history remembered him dying a hero already, so it was cool to see him come back again for one last feat.

In any case the 1st 3 shatnerverse novels were excellent at bringing him back and giving closure to his story. Id wholeheartedly recommend those.

 

[UnKillFill]

Hey wait... If this new chick is supposed to take Indy's place and do everything he did to keep history the same... Does that mean that she impregnated Marion Ravenwood to give birth to Shiah LaBeouf, and then later married her? Ok.