Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

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Authors used to be paid per word. L. Ron Hubbard once said “Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man wants to make a million dollars, the the best way would be to start his own religion.”

Of course Patty doesn't have the charisma, writing ability, will, or stamina to do that.
Authors still get paid per word. Hell, it's one of the reasons why editors work on limiting the amount of words in a book. You'd be lucky to even see half a penny a word though. I don't know where sites get $0.07 to $1.00 a word for a freelancer, but I was offered around $0.007 a word as a novice for the book I'm writing. It's just another reason why I went to wanting to self publish, that and the censorship. The real money comes from the publisher paying you with other things like licensing agreements among other things.
 
Authors still get paid per word. Hell, it's one of the reasons why editors work on limiting the amount of words in a book. You'd be lucky to even see half a penny a word though. I don't know where sites get $0.07 to $1.00 a word for a freelancer, but I was offered around $0.007 a word as a novice for the book I'm writing. It's just another reason why I went to wanting to self publish, that and the censorship. The real money comes from the publisher paying you with other things like licensing agreements among other things.
Those figures might be for short stories. Pretty sure magazines pay somewhere around 7 cents per word for short stories.
 
Someone with some insider knowledge said that he had been trying to pitch to publishers at the latest Worldcon and came across as a bit sweaty, desperate and unhinged.

Even if Pat was just a jolly fatty beloved by everyone, he would be given the same advice - do not write a fucking Christmas book. They can only be sold at a very specific release schedule (the weeks leading up to December) and for a traditional publisher, the background work of *exactly* timing a book release to a ceertain time of the year is both problematic and costly, which is why theme books by authors are usually from big names.

Who is going to buy a Christmas book after December 25th? It's never going to have the "long tail" that might turn a shitty selling book to one that breaks even. Writers who have done Christmas-themed books only do them as a side-project, not a two-year epic swallowing up all their writing time.

In two years he could not come up with a better idea??
He thinks some big movie producer is going to pick it up and make a big blockbuster movie out of it, then he can collect royalties for the rest of his life as it will be played nonstop every Christmas (should have written a screenplay then, faggot).
 
Those figures might be for short stories. Pretty sure magazines pay somewhere around 7 cents per word for short stories.
Maybe back in the day. I know some today pay flat fees and they're run more like a contest to get into the magazine. It's still a good way to get your foot in the door though.
 
Authors still get paid per word. Hell, it's one of the reasons why editors work on limiting the amount of words in a book. You'd be lucky to even see half a penny a word though. I don't know where sites get $0.07 to $1.00 a word for a freelancer, but I was offered around $0.007 a word as a novice for the book I'm writing. It's just another reason why I went to wanting to self publish, that and the censorship. The real money comes from the publisher paying you with other things like licensing agreements among other things.
Here's some good news (that blows my mind when I think of "known" SF authors like our buddy not taking advantage of it) The big pro-SFF magazines pay 8-10c USD per word. SFWA pro rates quotes that as a minimum to be considered a professional publication, so things like Asimovs, The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, Clarkesworld all do those rates. Semi-pro zines are just a bit under from 3-10c, and it kind of falls off the cliff after that.
 
Heres some good news (that blows my mind when I think of "known" SF authors like our buddy not taking advantage of it) The big pro-SFF magazines pay 8-10c USD per word. SFWA pro rates quotes that as a minimum to be considered a professional publication, so things like Asimovs, The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction, Clarkesworld all do those rates. Semi-pro zines are just a bit under from 3-10c, and it kind of falls off the cliff after that.
I think it also depends on what you're writing. Romance pays more for instance than anything because it sells more. Game publications pay shit, even if all you do is write the fluff. Blog posts on various sites can pay well since all they need is a click for an ad to be considered "seen" and that's all they care about. Plus you'll always get pay pigs sending you money to you through Patreon. N.K. Jemisin for instance is making $5300cad on it.
 
Maybe back in the day. I know some today pay flat fees and they're run more like a contest to get into the magazine. It's still a good way to get your foot in the door though.
Clarkesworld for example pays ~10c per word, Apex pays 6c, and so on.
Although that list is from 2018.
My big resolution for 2023 is to really get into writing.
 
I think it also depends on what you're writing. Romance pays more for instance than anything because it sells more. Game publications pay shit, even if all you do is write the fluff. Blog posts on various sites can pay well since all they need is a click for an ad to be considered "seen" and that's all they care about. Plus you'll always get pay pigs sending you money to you through Patreon. N.K. Jemisin for instance is making $5300cad on it.
Oh definitely. It's rather the reason literature is so salty about SFF, because there's really not the "big market" in literary writing for short stories in the pro-magazine area. A lot of prize-money gigs are run (same as with poetry) but nothing of the kind of - you send a story, we send you $500 - variety.

In terms of sheer cash, traditional publishing has its upsides. I was paid $10K each for my books (around 80K words each) over the last couple of years, but the authors on either side of me were getting upwards of $200K and even more for the same amount of work. The chick who wrote "the Children of Blood and Bone" was getting 7-figures, once the movie rights were concerned. She's only writen two books. The good thing is at my level I get the cash but no social media headaches - other people in my publisher get cancelled for the exact some things that i'm writing, but there is a sweet spot where you can fly under the radar and the editor does nothing more than a spellcheck and gives no fucks.

One of the things that makes Pat so horrifiyingly fascinating is that he is in such a position where he could truly capitalize financially on his infamy - so many fucking writer friends of mine follow him and he is a "known" name with 40K+ followers, and yet he dicks around with bullshit for months and years on end with NO work ethic at all.
 
Oh definitely. It's rather the reason literature is so salty about SFF, because there's really not the "big market" in literary writing for short stories in the pro-magazine area. A lot of prize-money gigs are run (same as with poetry) but nothing of the kind of - you send a story, we send you $500 - variety.

In terms of sheer cash, traditional publishing has its upsides. I was paid $10K each for my books (around 80K words each) over the last couple of years, but the authors on either side of me were getting upwards of $200K and even more for the same amount of work. The chick who wrote "the Children of Blood and Bone" was getting 7-figures, once the movie rights were concerned. She's only writen two books. The good thing is at my level I get the cash but no social media headaches - other people in my publisher get cancelled for the exact some things that i'm writing, but there is a sweet spot where you can fly under the radar and the editor does nothing more than a spellcheck and gives no fucks.

One of the things that makes Pat so horrifiyingly fascinating is that he is in such a position where he could truly capitalize financially on his infamy - so many fucking writer friends of mine follow him and he is a "known" name with 40K+ followers, and yet he dicks around with bullshit for months and years on end with NO work ethic at all.
If he decided to do so now with say opening a patreon like he should have, it would just get garnished by Quisi.
I'm personally not too concerned with turning a profit with my book. Whether people like it or not I just want it off my bucket list of things to do before I die. If people like it, awesome. It gives me a reason to work on another one. If not, then whatever. If people do like it though, then the next will be a campaign book based on the near 40 years of lore me and my gaming group has for our shared world.
 
I would like to apologize to everyone for overestimating his word count. That's 37 words per day, about two tweets worth of productivity. What a fat fucking idiot.
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Lets be clear here how about how slow Patrick writes it took Tolkien 12 years to write LOTR at a rate of about 137 words/day(its more complicated than that but whatever) but the dude had a massive world war going on a day job and wrote long hand. Plus you know he wrote one of the greatest stories of all time Pat on the other hand, writes slop but on the other hand has trotters in instead of hands.
 
38,665 words in 2 years is about 53 words per day. How does that stack up to professional writers, you may ask?

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Let's face it, a Twitter book saga with child and stalker as the main protagonists sounds way more interesting, and would have outperformed any fat-fingered drivel he's proud to call a Sci-Fi novel.

For the record, if you're reading this Fatrick, even people with feeder fetish couldn't outdo that gout you carry around so proudly. Also, gym selfies don't burn calories you fat idiot!
 
He uses stalker, child, commas and the same pasted reply about prison so often at this point that his texts/tweets have started reading like what you'd get back from an early 2000s chatbot.

More specifically, he reminds of the final result of pointing two early 00s chatbots against each other. We used to do that over ICQ network using chatbot plugins for MirandaIM. After a while the bot lines would just be evermore bloated (another similarity to Pat) strings of "No child, I didn't, and yes child, you did, and no child, you did, and no child, you did.."
 
I like to think Chubbs has a bowl with many pieces of paper, and in each is written something like "angry" Pat, "asshole Pat", "sassy Pat", "repressed homo Pat", etc. And each morning as he wakes up, he picks one out of the bowl. For special occasions, he can pick more than one.

Anyways, today he landed on "Marvel Hero Pat":
Tried. Tested. Proven. Fat..png

"We are BETTER than you. SUPERIOR.
Tried. Tested. Proven. Fatter."

... why are you like this, Pat? *sigh*

Edit to avoid double-posting:
A few days ago he tried to be funny making a joke about the state of NASA's vehicle on Mars:
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Same man's vehicle (pictured: not Mars):
Susan the V2 under snow. Also he's fat..jpg
 
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