Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Iron Jaguar]

You’re wrong. Kai Shappley has already been mentioned. His mother is a loud and proud evangelical Christian.

Another is Caity “Gavin” Grimm, the FTM who sued her Virginia school for not letting her use the boys bathroom, an act which instigated the troon bathroom wars. Also fundie Christian parents who couldn’t accept a dyke daughter.

Hunter Schaefer’s dad is a pastor, but the Schaefer’s are more of the lib Christian variety. Still religious though.

Satan is religious too - that doesn't make him a conservative. ANYONE who goes along with Troonery is neither a conservative nor a Christian, and especially not the latter. It doesn't matter how they choose to describe themselves, it is their actions that make plain where their hearts lie.

 

[Backinpogform]

Satan is religious too - that doesn't make him a conservative. ANYONE who goes along with Troonery is neither a conservative nor a Christian, and especially not the latter. It doesn't matter how they choose to describe themselves, it is their actions that make plain where their hearts lie.

We don’t accept the No True Scotsman fallacy from trannies for a very good reason. The same crucial reason we should never accept it from religion/political parties either.

The only way to beat the sophism and propaganda is to attack all the heads of the hydra, not just the ones that we are comfortable with.

 

[Troony Kong]

We don’t accept the No True Scotsman fallacy from trannies for a very good reason. The same crucial reason we should never accept it from religion/political parties either.

The only way to beat the sophism and propaganda is to attack all the heads of the hydra, not just the ones that we are comfortable with.

What I have noticed generally with troons and Christianity, is that with Protestants and other fringe groups there are some (a minority) that will accept trooning out as a cure for being gay, but much less so for Catholics and Orthodox.
But generally even with these exceptions far less troons troon out in conservative vs progressive communities, simply because most conservatives don't agree with the premise 'men can become/are actually women' (and vice versa). So a conservative man disappointed with his faggy son will not consider his transition as an 'upgrade' to his situation, but a cause for further offense.

 

[Dipodomys]

But generally even with these exceptions far less troons troon out in conservative vs progressive communities, simply because most conservatives don't agree with the premise 'men can become/are actually women' (and vice versa). So a conservative man disappointed with his faggy son will not consider his transition as an 'upgrade' to his situation, but a cause for further offense.

Thankfully that's more the case now. When the troon shit was just starting, that gay son straight "daughter" thing was how it got a foothold in conservative households. This would be right around the time little Jaron turned 2.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

If we're going into a theological worldview here, troonery is saying that God made a mistake.

You can handwave gaydom much more easily with a religious mindset.

Troonery is saying that God literally fucked up and gave you the wrong body.

You can't "Born this way" your way out of it.

 

[Troony Kong]

Thankfully that's more the case now. When the troon shit was just starting, that gay son straight "daughter" thing was how it got a foothold in conservative households. This would be right around the time little Jaron turned 2.

But isn't Jazz's family the classic wealthy coastal progressive Jewish family? They wouldn't count as conservative. I also think that in Jazz's case the situation was much more 'Jeannette is a munchie using young Jazz's trans desires as a way to get asspats, national fame and certified moral superiority' than 'Jeannette wants to trans the (presumed) gay away from Jazz'. It's just that nowadays in the munchie speshulness scale trans >>> gay (>>>>>straight) (which makes Desmond's mom, munchie fag hag Wendy Lou Napoles the exception rather than the norm because she cares for Desmond being 'gay' much more than him being 'trans', while Jeannette went big on trans from the beginning because it's the more socially 'rewarding' munch). The latter explanation also wouldn't explain Sander (who like everyone in that family is always under Mom's control) ending up being a cardboard cutout whose only purpose is to simp for LGBT rights and regularly risk being sexually assaulted by Peppermint and his other drag/troon friends. Without ever getting a girlfriend .
Nor would it explain why Jazz has always been paraded around in Pride marches with full gay and lesbian participation and why he has always (read teleprompters that) advocated for gay (homosexual) issues together with the trans ones.
And when Jazz looked like he could be interested in guys like that biracial one he was briefly with, or in girls like Victoria, thus making him 'lesbian'/bi/pan (nevermind the impossibility of sexual feelings for he is basically an eunuch), Mom did not veto against it either. The important thing to Jeannette is that Jazz stays a troon.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I feel like the Jennings are probably centrist leaning Democrats. Sort of people who’d have those “In this house” signs but found Sanders or Warren too radical or whatever. They’ve always seemed kind of out of place among the full on Twitter prog crowd. Notice Jazz still uses very trans-medicalist rationales for his existence. You know, girl brain in a boy body. When Sander talks about dating pre-op troons, he treats bottom surgery as an inevitable future, which to many would be seen as invalidating girl cock. If Jazz wasn’t basically an Aztec sacrifice giving cover to bathroom pests, the family might well have been put on the same shit list as Buck Angel or Catlyn Jenner.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

There is always some confusion when people want to explain if a person leans left, right, liberal, conservative, etc. For starters, conservatism isn't the opposite of liberalism, but rather of progressiveness. You can be a conservative with liberal tendencies or a liberal with progressive tendencies, but you can't ever be a progressive conservative.

The Jennings are liberal progressives. They believe in the basic concepts of freedom, such as economical freedom and social freedom as in "live and let live": if a troon wants to be a troon, let them be troons and oppose the ones who oppose it because they are going against the free nature of a person (or so liberals believe).

Their problem starts because they lean progressive. Progressives like them accept concepts of freedom, but they think that anyone who opposes certain freedoms must be destroyed and is evil in nature. They also think (this is 100% their progressive nature) that everything that is new and modern is better than what it was before. Hence, why they believe in "Current Year!" politics: people who oppose troonism are wrong because they are following "last decade" ideas while the "current year" ideas are better.

The most you can aspire the Jennings to be is to go back to be classical liberals: "sure, if you want to chop your dick, do it, but don't force pronouns on me and keep minors away from this". It's not gonna happen, but they will never move past that into believing that troonism is wrong because their liberalism makes them believe that "as long as you're happy, there is no wrong."

 

[Lead Sammich]

I dont think anybody was really claiming the bloshinskys were conservative, i was just saying there are definitely cases of conservatives trooning out their kids as a form of gay conversion therapy. They probably arent thinking of it as such, but instead just fall for the lie that medical transition literally changes their bodies to be the opposite sex. They fall for the trap of believing that doctors are miracle workers, they arent viewing it as an even more progressive stance necessarily.

Also i wasnt saying its as prevalent in conservative circles as it is in progressive circles, was just responding to a comment that was basically saying this shit is confined only to super woke circles. Ive seen multiple cases of previously super conservative mothers (never fathers really) who become more accepting of LGBT pride and shit, to the point of marching in the parades, while still being republican or whatever, and those examples ALWAYS fall for the "would you rather have a living son or dead daughter" manipulation tactic.

Also im pretty sure i remember talk of the mermaids founder trooning out her son bc he was gay? Idk if she was considered conservative by bongistan standards tho. And yea the social credit upgrade from trooning is definitely enticing to the munchie moms like jazzs mom, but conservative mothers who do it are nearly always doing it (whether consciously or not) as gay conversion therapy.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Amidst all this religious sperging I’d like to wish the Bloshinsky family a merry Chinese takeout and viewing of Avatar: the Way of Water. It’ll probably come in late because of the Ching Chong DDOS attack.

 

[Safir]

If we're going into a theological worldview here, troonery is saying that God made a mistake.
You can handwave gaydom much more easily with a religious mindset.
Troonery is saying that God literally fucked up and gave you the wrong body.
You can't "Born this way" your way out of it.

You can absolutely "born this way" out of (or rather into) troonery if you liken it to fetal abnormalities and pediatric cancer. God fucks up a lot.

 

[zebrass]

What I have noticed generally with troons and Christianity, is that with Protestants and other fringe groups there are some (a minority) that will accept trooning out as a cure for being gay, but much less so for Catholics and Orthodox.

This doesn't surprise me since the single purpose of carving out a stick-ditch is so some seed can be spilt on barren ground. Catholics are notoriously against that kind of thing.

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

What I have noticed generally with troons and Christianity, is that with Protestants and other fringe groups there are some (a minority) that will accept trooning out as a cure for being gay, but much less so for Catholics and Orthodox.

That's because Catholics and Orthodox have a well-proven alternative treatment for gay: monasticism. Just lock all the weirdos and losers in a walled building, dress them in uniform drab clothes and force some discipline upon them, and they won't bother you any more.

 

[Troony Kong]

That's because Catholics and Orthodox have a well-proven alternative treatment for gay: monasticism. Just lock all the weirdos and losers in a walled building, dress them in uniform drab clothes and force some discipline upon them, and they won't bother you any more.

False (at least for Catholics, can't speak about Orthodox).
Gay men go into priesthood not monkhood. The latter is far too drab and sensually un-stimulating for them. Even if they try, they get out soon. Being a monk or friar requires strong discipline and restraint, which they mostly lack, and the only rewards are spiritual.
With priesthood, not only have they access to lots of other men and boys (the 'pedo priest problem' is more accurately a 'there's gays in the clergy' problem) but also power. And beautiful works of art if you live in Europe. All things fags just luvv.
Gays in the highest positions in the Church is one big reason why the Catholic Church is in very steep decline, with an Antipope at the head currently and all.

 

[Safir]

That's because Catholics and Orthodox have a well-proven alternative treatment for gay: monasticism. Just lock all the weirdos and losers in a walled building, dress them in uniform drab clothes and force some discipline upon them, and they won't bother you any more.

False (at least for Catholics, can't speak about Orthodox).
Gay men go into priesthood not monkhood.

Also false for the Russian Orthodox Church. Gay men go into monkhood here, but that's cos the church is run by monks. They aren't locked up anywhere, they run the place. All the sensually stimulating stuff, the money, and most importantly the right of ordination, is for the monks only. Non-monk priests and low-level monks look pretty much the same but only priestmonks can advance in rank. Monks can become priestmonks. Priests with no underage children can become priestmonks. Priests can't marry (fags love fast-tracking religious boys into ordination). Married priests with children are at the bottom of the totem pole unless they take up celebrity/adoption grifting.

Also monasteries aren't prisons, they're communal housing. Monasticism (if it weren't run by grifting fags) would be an alternative to inceldom, whoring, widowhood or post-divorce, and retirement homes. Monasteries could be good for tards to live nearby and get minded by monks, but they were never meant as tard or freak containment. Particularly, forced tonsure has never been a punishment for homosexuality.

Finally, the timeline does not hash out, the troon wave trails Protestant fag acceptance trails mainstream fag acceptance and overall decline of religion on the West. Most if not all Catholic monasteries do not accept children so a Catholic parent can't ship off a gay kid there, and a gay adult who wants to live his best sequined life can just leave the church.

What I have noticed generally with troons and Christianity, is that with Protestants and other fringe groups there are some (a minority) that will accept trooning out as a cure for being gay, but much less so for Catholics and Orthodox.

Protestants and other fringe groups often don't even need a cure for the gay, what with the openly sinning and fornicating priests.

Larger supranational churches are simply better at keeping the faith because of institutional inertia. It's easy to say the church is bad and full of faggots and the pope is satanic and you can run your own church with blackjack and hookers, but once you've allowed for changes to fundamental doctrine (because you want to make the church stronger, stricter, and less sinful), that dab of toothpaste is never going back into the tube. (To say nothing of the fact that the smaller you are, the easier it is to flat out destroy you.)

 

[NoReturn]

Throwback Tuesday with the Jennings

 

[Unabomber Eleven]

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I’m just gonna leave these here…

 

[Fapcop]

Whenever I see Jazz and Sanders, I’m confused as to who the real cow is.

Jazz is just a tragic figure. Built like a brick shithouse, desperately trying to disguise his imminent ogredom with long, flowing dresses.

You get the impression he just want all the attention to disappear.

And then there’s Sanders, trying to latch on to whatever crumbs of E-fame coming his way.

He looks like a clown, with his 24-7 semi nudity and balding head, he acts like a clown and even worse: He lives like an appendage to Jazz’s tragedy.

What are his interests? Being an ally! What are his tastes in music or movies? Supporting trans music and movies!

Jazz will live a eunuch life and not pass on his DNA because his family betrayed a little boy.

Sanders will never get to pass on his DNA either (unless by accident) because he’s too damn pathetic to breed.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

He lives like an appendage to Jazz’s tragedy.

Appropriate; he is essentially a rotdog. - He only approximates what he intends to be, but not enough to deceive anyone who has even the slightest idea of what the real thing actually looks and behaves like.

 

[Fapcop]

Appropriate; he is essentially a rotdog. - He only approximates what he intends to be, but not enough to deceive anyone who has even the slightest idea of what the real thing actually looks and behaves like.

Also note the complete lack of self awareness.

For every year that goes, and every mm the hairline creeps further up, the more ridiculous his: “I’m just a quirky, regular dude bro with my shirt off!” Shtick becomes, and the closer he gets to Jazz’s neighbors going: “Keep an eye on the kids hun, that shirtless weirdo uncle is back!”

Can you imagine him at a social event? Just clamming up and looking around nervously whenever someone asks him a personal question that doesn’t involve being an “ally”.