Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Doinker Marmalade]

Bolting looted tractor parts to their tanks as armor.

Nigga did you even look at the pictures? Those aren't even the same parts, they look nothing alike. This isn't Twitter, people will actually look at things before blindly accepting them as 'LE EPIC RUZZIAN OWN'.

 

[teriyakiburns]

the real question is why you're against it
name one thing on this gay earth that shouldn't be nuked

Cats.

 

[khaine]

 

[mindlessobserver]

Because Zelensky has moved onto applying to join NATO. And getting really close with the nation that swings their dick around the most in NATO. The alliance that's spent much of their existence working to curb the influence of Russia on the world, short of wiping them off the map.

Putin faces having that threat on his doorstep. And he's not too keen on just being a place that just does what America says. And if Zelensky is moving to use force, he's going to match that force.

Back in March Zelensky literally offered surrender. Immediate declaration of neutrality, no joining the EU or NATO in exchange for a ceasefire. Framework to be then put in place to negotiate the ceding of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk to Russia, along with a recognition of Crimea as Russian all along.

Putin reportedly tore the offer up and told his aids he was going to "thrash" zelensky.

A few weeks later Russia was forcibly ejected from the Kiev and Chernyiv areas, and the details of the Bucha incident came to light. Ukraines peace offer was subsequently rescinded.

It cannot be understated that at every stage of this dispute, RUSSIA has been the escalating party. It is Russia who has pushed this, breaking every agreement and proposal since the Budapest Memorandum.

And on February 24, 2022, it was RUSSIA, Not Ukraine, that made the unilateral decision to escalate the dispute to a full on war. There is literally nothing left to talk about at this point. Ukraine quite rightly feels it cannot trust Russia on anything unless it holds a stick over their heads, and Russia for its part continually demands Ukraines unconditional surrender as a pretext for a negotiated end to the conflict.

The two negotiating positions are utterly intractable. I said when this began we would not see any movements towards ending this war for at least a year, possibly two, and I am sticking by that. Though it's possible this conflict may become even more grinding, especially if Putin digs his heels in. A three to four year conflict is definitely on the table.

 

[demicolon]

Pro Russian commentators have a vested interest in telling people that all these economic hardships are due to this war and to alleviate them all we need to do is pull back on support of Ukraine and sanctions.

Funny because here in Pooland, state media can't shut the fuck up about "Putinflation" despite the fact that prices of EVERYTHING have been balooning for almost 2 years now. Seems to me that western PTB want everyone to think their current money problems are all thanks to Russia.

Also I don't give the slightest shit about gas stock market price, what I care is that every 3 months or so everyone's rent and energy bills go up.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Seems to me that western PTB want everyone to think their current money problems are all thanks to Russia.

That's because they don't want people to realise the actual source of their problems. It's not Ukraine, and it's not Russia (directly, at any rate); it's their own governments' endless fascination with "saving the world" from "climate change". Energy prices have been rising steadily for the last 20 years, due to retarded climate change policies that make as much actual difference as a gnat's fart in a hurricane. Russia invading Ukraine became both a trigger and a convenient excuse for the abrupt increase, but the increase would have come sooner or later anyway, as an inevitable result of policies that have been in train for decades.

All the talk of "just buy russian gas" is as much a cope as "just make more windmills". There is no intention to make energy cheaper.

 

[demicolon]

Some news from the hyena of Europe: 70,000 Poles have recently left Poland to avoid being drafted.

Mężczyźni masowo uciekają z Polski, próbując uniknąć służby w rezerwie - Dziennik Polityczny

Na początku grudnia Ministerstwo Obrony Narodowej opublikowało liczbę osób, które mogą być powołane w 2023 r. do czynnej służby wojskowej, oraz tych, które mogą pełnić [...]

dziennik-polityczny.com

Mężczyźni masowo uciekają z Polski, próbując uniknąć służby w rezerwi…

archived 28 Dec 2022 18:58:29 UTC

archive.ph

Piss-poor machine-translation: https://dziennik--polityczny-com.tr...-z-polski-probujac-uniknac-sluzby-w-rezerwie/

Mężczyźni masowo uciekają z Polski, próbując uniknąć służby w rezerwi…

archived 28 Dec 2022 18:57:38 UTC

archive.ph

TL;DR: In the last few weeks over 70,000 fighting age men have escaped from the war-torn nation of Poland, fearing they'll be drafted to fight in (or against?) Ukraine. Sounds like Pollacks don't want to die over their government's deluded fantasies of capturing Lvov and making Poland great again (was it ever great?).

Spoiler

Лол, польские чмобики поняли что у Украины скоро закончатся хохлы, и тогда наступит их очередь работать пушечным салом. Правильно сделали что сьебались. Лучше мыть туалеты в Лондоне чем кормить вшей в окопах под Ивано-Франковском.

TL;DR translation:
Everyone who got draft classification when they were 19 or so and passed can expect an invitation letter from gunnery sergeant's love shack in 2023. One attached tweet is from deputy mayor of Warsaw who points out that it's unfair to send men to die but let women run away west to live in comfort away from war. Other tweet is from some faggot dean who will 100% avoid the draft and calls those 70k runaways rats and cowards.
The site hosting the article has other articles like Oracle will predict that Law & Justice party will lose this spring so take it with a grain of salt. A big one, like the one they used to strap to a mule to get it out of the salt mine.

I'm one of those who will probably get drafted for 3 months to scrub toilets... lol?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

You consistently can't even spell in English, and you have opinions on the US?

Since when was grammar ever a requirement for an opinion? I'm not writting a novel, I don't care to put in effort to make sure I don't misspell this or that

Also imagine thinking I appreciate the Dems in any way lmao. Or Zelensky. Or Republicucks, why leave them out, they're but more retarded shitlibs, not even remotely close to serving the right wing.

You failed to see my point. Your point, lacking thought as always, was that anyone who sided with "people that call your country demonic, evil and in need of destroying" are traitors. My point is that the entirety of a certain political ideology fits that requirement (and those people tend to also be the most Anti-Russia people as well), making around half of US traitors. You claim an american cant support Russia because Russia allegedly calls for the destruction of US, but you insist people support their current american political apperatus, and all of its decisions, alliances, wars, and all that. Like all your believes, it's contradictory by nature.

 

[Based Boy]

Back in March Zelensky literally offered surrender. Immediate declaration of neutrality, no joining the EU or NATO in exchange for a ceasefire. Framework to be then put in place to negotiate the ceding of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk to Russia, along with a recognition of Crimea as Russian all along.

Putin reportedly tore the offer up and told his aids he was going to "thrash" zelensky.

New CIA booklet dropped, boys. Can you provide those "reports" about Putler "thrashing" Zelebobinsky? The Deal that you are talking about was actually the Russian deal that was presented to Ukraine, which even allowed Ukraine to join the EU (this point was added after negotiations, of course, as a sort of concession from the Russian side, i assume. (And also probably because Ukraine have lower chance of joining EU than Turkey, considering state of the country.)).

And on February 24, 2022, it was RUSSIA, Not Ukraine, that made the unilateral decision to escalate the dispute to a full on war. There is literally nothing left to talk about at this point. Ukraine quite rightly feels it cannot trust Russia on anything unless it holds a stick over their heads, and Russia for its part continually demands Ukraines unconditional surrender as a pretext for a negotiated end to the conflict.

There is no demand for unconditional surrender. Ukrainians can retreat from Donetsk and Kherson and it is a done deal, if they put neutrality back into their constitution, of course. Can even keep whatever they hold in Zhoparojie. Very generous from the Russian side, if you ask me. But, i guess, Zalupensky just wants to let his golems die in Bakhmut without end. Such is the fate of the golem, sadly.
And, also, what is Ukrainian "peace deal" position? To go back to 1993 borders? With such demands Zalupoedsky have nothing to compromise on with the Russians, and, considering how long he preached those goals of this war to Ukrainians, he probably will hang if they are not met. Than again, Ukrainians probably would believe anything that CIPSo and Arestovich says, so he is not in any real danger. After all, they still believe that they are somehow different from the Russians.
I, personally, would love if the peace deal that you talked about at the beginning would be the peace deal that Russo-Ukrainian war will end on. Sure, Russia would not win much and that would mean that Russians were dying for very little, but it would also mean that Ukrainians won nothing and died for nothing, despite the ability to end this war in March of 2022 without any major damage to the country. Would be an important lesson for any other US vassals.

Also I don't give the slightest shit about gas stock market price, what I care is that every 3 months or so everyone's rent and energy bills go up.

A lot of people talk about gas prices dropping on the market and that EU gas storage facilities being full. But i always wonder, at what price EU bought the gas that now rests in those storage facilities and how much did they purchased during the time when gas prices were at their pick or at least very high?

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Very sad and horrifying footage of brave Ukrainian heroes bombarded by Russian drones. Will Zelensky throw every man, woman and child into the meat grinder just to have a chance at stealing what is, without a doubt, rightful Russian land? Does he have no soul? Was 300k dead Ukrainians not enough? Very sad. I hope this war ends soon.

Spoiler: Gore

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Back in March Zelensky literally offered surrender. Immediate declaration of neutrality, no joining the EU or NATO in exchange for a ceasefire. Framework to be then put in place to negotiate the ceding of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk to Russia, along with a recognition of Crimea as Russian all along.

Putin reportedly tore the offer up and told his aids he was going to "thrash" zelensky.

A few weeks later Russia was forcibly ejected from the Kiev and Chernyiv areas, and the details of the Bucha incident came to light. Ukraines peace offer was subsequently rescinded.

It cannot be understated that at every stage of this dispute, RUSSIA has been the escalating party. It is Russia who has pushed this, breaking every agreement and proposal since the Budapest Memorandum.

And on February 24, 2022, it was RUSSIA, Not Ukraine, that made the unilateral decision to escalate the dispute to a full on war. There is literally nothing left to talk about at this point. Ukraine quite rightly feels it cannot trust Russia on anything unless it holds a stick over their heads, and Russia for its part continually demands Ukraines unconditional surrender as a pretext for a negotiated end to the conflict.

The two negotiating positions are utterly intractable. I said when this began we would not see any movements towards ending this war for at least a year, possibly two, and I am sticking by that. Though it's possible this conflict may become even more grinding, especially if Putin digs his heels in. A three to four year conflict is definitely on the table.

Mindlessobserver living up to his name again. It's established fact that the March agreement was ready to go until Boris 'No. 10 is my nightclub' Johnson popped over to tell Z-Man that NATO isn't prepared for peace and he best get with the programme. Don't know which hole you pulled your alternative history from...

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The west won't give shit to rebuild whatever rump state is left of Ukraine leaving it in the same state as Iraq is now, and only the Russian-controlled parts will see some kind of rebuilding,

They might if the gov could be persuaded to see this as "West Germany v East Germany" part 2.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Back in March Zelensky literally offered surrender. Immediate declaration of neutrality, no joining the EU or NATO in exchange for a ceasefire. Framework to be then put in place to negotiate the ceding of occupied Donetsk and Luhansk to Russia, along with a recognition of Crimea as Russian all along.

Putin reportedly tore the offer up and told his aids he was going to "thrash" zelensky.

A few weeks later Russia was forcibly ejected from the Kiev and Chernyiv areas, and the details of the Bucha incident came to light. Ukraines peace offer was subsequently rescinded.

It cannot be understated that at every stage of this dispute, RUSSIA has been the escalating party. It is Russia who has pushed this, breaking every agreement and proposal since the Budapest Memorandum.

And on February 24, 2022, it was RUSSIA, Not Ukraine, that made the unilateral decision to escalate the dispute to a full on war. There is literally nothing left to talk about at this point. Ukraine quite rightly feels it cannot trust Russia on anything unless it holds a stick over their heads, and Russia for its part continually demands Ukraines unconditional surrender as a pretext for a negotiated end to the conflict.

The two negotiating positions are utterly intractable. I said when this began we would not see any movements towards ending this war for at least a year, possibly two, and I am sticking by that. Though it's possible this conflict may become even more grinding, especially if Putin digs his heels in. A three to four year conflict is definitely on the table.

Yeah I'm sure Putin was well aware of what Ukraine's promises were worth-nothing. Good thing Merkel confirmed it recently.



This conflict is going to wrap up sooner, rather than later; it only becomes a protracted slog if another country provides fresh meat soldiers for the meatgrinder.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Ukraine never stops, does it?

Ukrainian S-300 missile lands in Belarus: Report

A Ukrainian S-300 missile fell onto the territory of Belarus on Thursday, Belarus’ state-run BelTA news agency reported.The Minsk defense ministry was

english.alarabiya.net

Ukrainian air defence missile lands in Belarus - BelTA

Belarus' state-run BelTA news agency reported that a Ukrainian S-300 missile had fallen onto the territory of Belarus on Thursday during one of Russia's largest missile attacks against Ukraine since the start of the war.

www.reuters.com

 

[Hard Toothbrush]

Since the site was effectively down due to trannies this Christmas I was unable to post. Now that it's kinda working again I can post this message of unity and reconciliation.

And for our Russian frens, don't worry, just because westernski pepsi has left your country you are not forgotten! Have some Cool Cola and Fancy!

Tho I have to say it's kind of funny to be reminded of pro-Russia burgers gloating that Europe's going to freeze this winter just to themselves be hit by that slight spell of cold weather lately.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Since when was grammar ever a requirement for an opinion? I'm not writting a novel, I don't care to put in effort to make sure I don't misspell this or that

You failed to see my point. Your point, lacking thought as always, was that anyone who sided with "people that call your country demonic, evil and in need of destroying" are traitors. My point is that the entirety of a certain political ideology fits that requirement (and those people tend to also be the most Anti-Russia people as well), making around half of US traitors. You claim an american cant support Russia because Russia allegedly calls for the destruction of US, but you insist people support their current american political apperatus, and all of its decisions, alliances, wars, and all that. Like all your believes, it's contradictory by nature.

"beliefs", "apparatus"
Are you even an American?
You still can't spell nor do you have the respect for forum users to install a spellchecker.
Inability to use spellchecking and formulate cogent opinions on serious matters like war disqualifies you. I fail to understand why @Null made you a janny, when you're so biased, and so involved in participating in this conflict. You should be neutral and apply the forum rules, not get involved in social debates of the forums on one side.
Rudimentary moderation praxis.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

"beliefs", "apparatus"

Like I said:

I'm not writting a novel, I don't care to put in effort to make sure I don't misspell this or that

In fact, if it makes you mad so much, I might just misspell more things on purpose.

Inability to use spellchecking and formulate cogent opinions on serious matters like war disqualifies you.

But I do form clear and logical opinions. Interestingly, when I point out the flaws in yours, you move the topic. Does that not disqualify you, as well?

I fail to understand why @Null made you a janny, when you're so biased, and so involved in participating in this conflict.

I was not aware I was shooting up Ukrainians or Russians. Shit, does that mean I should contact their respective governments and ask to be paid?
Re: my bias. Every human being has a bias to one or another issue, because we have opinions. Like in all things, my biases -as well as my opinions- can change. I can, however do my job well despite my alleged bias. If I was as biased as you claim, would I not have just threadbanned you for wrongthink?

You should be neutral and apply the forum rules, not get involved in social debates of the forums on one side.
Rudimentary moderation praxis.

Why shouldn't I be allowed to engage in a debate? That seems silly. That aside, if you have complaints about my behaviour, or my application of rules, you are more than free to bring it to the attention of other mods here

That aside, we are moving off topic. If your reply doesn't concern the topic of the thread, it needn't be made.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Ukrops claim to have shot down a cruise missile with a MANPAD. It's really hard to tell though so I thought I'd post it here to see what others think.

"beliefs", "apparatus"
Are you even an American?
You still can't spell nor do you have the respect for forum users to install a spellchecker.
Inability to use spellchecking and formulate cogent opinions on serious matters like war disqualifies you. I fail to understand why @Null made you a janny, when you're so biased, and so involved in participating in this conflict. You should be neutral and apply the forum rules, not get involved in social debates of the forums on one side.
Rudimentary moderation praxis.

Put on the big girl panties and stop whining people are engaging in wrongthink. You sound very reddit, and maybe you would be happier there than here.

 

[Ghostse]

Because Zelensky has moved onto applying to join NATO. And getting really close with the nation that swings their dick around the most in NATO. The alliance that's spent much of their existence working to curb the influence of Russia on the world, short of wiping them off the map.

Putin faces having that threat on his doorstep. And he's not too keen on just being a place that just does what America says. And if Zelensky is moving to use force, he's going to match that force.

But how is that an excuse for escalation? I mean, giving up some territory is a small price to pay, and clearly there won't be any further encroachment or Special Services blackops fuckery.

None of this is excuse for escalating a proxy conflict with three other nuclear states. Putin is just reckless and wants nuclear war.

 

[demicolon]

But how is that an excuse for escalation? I mean, giving up some territory is a small price to pay, and clearly there won't be any further encroachment or Special Services blackops fuckery.

None of this is excuse for escalating a proxy conflict with three other nuclear states. Putin is just reckless and wants nuclear war.

IIRC order for the speshul military operation got served after Boris Johnson told Putin, in diplomaticspeak, to shove Dumbass and Lucas up his ass and cry him a river.

 

[Nopenopenope]

Keep seething.
We're allies.
And that makes you and all ziggers explicit enemies.
We really need people to understand friend-enemy distinctions.

Even though we want the same thing, I am definitely not as optimistic. This is a very large country with crazy amount of resources, both human and natural.
The US and EU should have transitioned by now to war economies, and Ukraine should have long range missiles that can reach Moscow and pilots should be trained to fly modern fighters and bombers.

Although I disagree with what you are saying and think your post is dumb, I do like the word "zigger" to describe someone who isn't a cuck for Ukraine. Very good.