Metal Gear

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

He is a natural blonde, at least in MGS1 and then it was retconned again back to brownish somewhere in MGS2 production. Pliskin was a blonde originally and if you look at his hair in MGS2 he has little bits of blonde in it. Twin Snakes removed it entirely.

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Where the hell did you get that idea? He wasnt blond on any of the other games before Solid, and you are not only talking about concept art that wasnt used, you are talking about concept art for a possible look he would use as a disguise because he is supposed to be dead in that point of the story.
It would be a retcon if he WAS blond in Mgs1

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Where the hell did you get that idea? He wasnt blond on any of the other games before Solid, and you are not only talking about concept art that wasnt used, you are talking about concept art for a possible look he would use as a disguise because he is supposed to be dead in that point of the story.
It would be a retcon if he WAS blond in Mgs1

Campbell says something like "Besides your skin tone, you two are identical" instead of referring to his hair color as well. And his hair legitimately does look blonde in the briefing animations.

That being said though, the whole Metal Gear Solid hair color debate was retarded 20 years ago and it's still retarded today. His hair has changed color at least twice not even countingthe "filter" in the briefing and him going gray in MGS4 into account. His hair in MG and MG2 was clearly brown, then it's clearly black in MGS, then it's a dirty brown in MGS2.

 

[Viscious Seviper]

Rising did have a quiet launch and death when it initially released. Then all you got was deep baked weaponized autism, 400% MATI, and other glownigger fuckery that has conveniently been swept up under the rug.

Deep baked memes and EarRape bait & switch videos were more common than the day screamers took over the site for a while between 2016-2019. Theyre still around, but now its all political spam burying whats left of it and the rest closed their channels. It should be illegal to make a review video and then EARRAPE YOUR FUCKING AUDIENCE out of nowhere because blasting your ear drums out and indirectly assaulting people is somehow funny until someone retaliates. Then it goes the way of slenderman.

I liked Rising until it got a second life because some YT fag did a LP of it and the memes became insufferable.

 

[Wesker]

Campbell says something like "Besides your skin tone, you two are identical" instead of referring to his hair color as well. And his hair legitimately does look blonde in the briefing animations.

That being said though, the whole Metal Gear Solid hair color debate was retarded 20 years ago and it's still retarded today.

Exactly. I don't ever recall this ever being something that needed to be debated that he isn't blonde, when he's clearly blonde in that one. The series has never had any consistency and constantly undermines the lore in previous games.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

Campbell says something like "Besides your skin tone, you two are identical" instead of referring to his hair color as well. And his hair legitimately does look blonde in the briefing animations.

That being said though, the whole Metal Gear Solid hair color debate was retarded 20 years ago and it's still retarded today.

I mean, skin tone seems like a more relevant thing to note when talking about someones face than hair color that can be changed.
Other than that, Snakes original design was based on Kyle Reese from terminator who has brown hair, funny enough under direct light his hair also looks extremely bright

 

[Gravemind]

He is a natural blonde, at least in MGS1 and then it was retconned again back to brownish somewhere in MGS2 production. Pliskin was a blonde originally and if you look at his hair in MGS2 he has little bits of blonde in it. Twin Snakes removed it entirely.

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Exactly. I don't ever recall this ever being something that needed to be debated that he isn't blonde, when he's clearly blonde in that one. The series has never had any consistency and constantly undermines the lore in previous games.

Nigger, are you really going to try and resurrect an age old fan debate that's predicated upon cutting room floor-type stuff, an original draft of Kojima's script, and an interview answer with Yoji Shinkawa?

 

[Wesker]

I mean, skin tone seems like a more relevant thing to note when talking about someones face than hair color that can be changed.
Other than that, Snakes original design was based on Kyle Reese from terminator who has brown hair, funny enough under direct light his hair also looks extremely bright
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You know he was dirty blonde in that... right? You niggas need to go to the eye doctor or psychiatrist.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Nigger, are you really going to try and resurrect an age old fan debate that's predicated upon cutting room floor-type stuff, an original draft of Kojima's script, and an interview answer with Yoji Shinkawa?

Let's not start calling people niggers and talking about trying to resurrect fan debates when this was all started by someone that came in here looking for validation about retards who rustled their jimmies 20 years ago.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

You know he was dirty blonde in that... right? You niggas need to go to the eye doctor or psychiatrist.

Looks brown to me, my brother has dirty blond hair and doesnt look like that, obviously its not the same exact color for everyone but eh.
Eitherway you can clearly see in the cover of MG for msx that snake has brown hair even if Kyle Reese's is blond.
Thisnis just people seeing blond in a cutscene where you cant even see the real color of hair, hair changes color by lighting, brown hair looks way brighter, my black hair can look redish under light.
Big boss in the reveal trialer of Ground Zeroes looked like he had grey heir thanks to the lighting, etc.

 

[Wesker]

Looks brown to me, my brother has dirty blond hair and doesnt look like that, obviously its not the same exact color for everyone but eh.
Eitherway you can clearly see in the cover of MG for msx that snake has brown hair even if Kyle Reese's is blond.
Thisnis just people seeing blond in a cutscene where you cant even see the real color of hair, hair changes color by lighting, brown hair looks way brighter, my black hair can look redish under light.
Big boss in the reveal trialer of Ground Zeroes looked like he had grey heir thanks to the lighting, etc.

Why are you not getting this? I know he's based on Kyle in MG1. I get it. This whole thing is about Snake in MGS1 being blonde during the briefing. It's even confirmed in dialogue from Campbell like @xXx: State of the Union rightly pointed out. They're identical, but their skin is slightly different.

He wasn't blonde before then because Kojima loves digging plotholes and the whole twin angle was new. So to hammer home they were twins, he made them actual twins... And then the hair color thing was abandoned.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

Why are you not getting this? I know he's based on Kyle in MG1. I get it. This whole thing is about Snake in MGS1 being blonde during the briefing. It's even confirmed in dialogue from Campbell like @xXx: State of the Union rightly pointed out. They're identical, but their skin is slightly different.

He wasn't blonde before then because Kojima loves digging plotholes and the whole twin angle was new. So to hammer home they were twins, he made them actual twins... And then the hair color thing was abandoned.

Just because they didnt mention his hair color doesnt mean he has blond hair, as I said, they are most likely talking about facial features, the only reason Liquid has blond hair is to make him visualy diferent.
There is no point in any part of the game where Snake is said to be blond, no part where he changes his hair, no point where he could change his hair, its just extrapolating information form one line that doesnt mention hair color in a cutscene where you can't even see the actual color of his hair.

 

[White Devil]

This has got to be the most retarded argument in the whole thread.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

This has got to be the most retarded argument in the whole thread.

Eh, its fun to argue even if the subject is retarded

 

[White Devil]

Eh, its fun to argue even if the subject is retarded

No, I agree with other posters. This retarded bullshit was put to bed two decades ago. There's no need to dredge it up now except for unhinged autism.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

This has got to be the most retarded argument in the whole thread.

Please do a review of the Resident Evil thread next. It's the same faces, same names, same retardation diluted by five confused posters wanting to talk about Resident Evil.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Eh, its fun to argue even if the subject is retarded

No, it's just retarded.

1. It's fucking hair. What does it matter if Snake naturally has blonde, brunette or black hair? This is on the level of arguing if he is circumsized or not. In your attempt for people to be some kind of "loremasters" of Metal Gear Solid, they just come off as unbelievably faggy and annoying.

2. "Snake was based on so and so" is such a stupid fucking argument for *anything*. Kojima has flat out said Snake has been influenced by so many fucking people over the years. Kojima has said that Snake was based on Christopher Walken, Kurt Russle and Clint Eastwood at various points and for various different games. Even going off the cover of Metal Gear 1, he's using Kyle Reese pose from Terminator but looks far more like Don Johnson in the face, and I doubt that Kojima had much, if any, control over the original Metal Gears marketing artwork anyways.

This is the shit we argued about on the internet when we were retarded 13 year olds, it isn't something anyone should do past the age of like 16 at most. I feel like a fucking retard for even pointing out how retarded it is, but this is the Farms so par for the course I guess.

 

[White Devil]

Please do a review of the Resident Evil thread next. It's the same faces, same names, same retardation diluted by five confused posters wanting to talk about Resident Evil.

I considered but even I don't want to read about Code Veronica exploits.

 

[Becomemysoulreaver12]

No, it's just retarded.

1. It's fucking hair. What does it matter if Snake naturally has blonde, brunette or black hair? This is on the level of arguing if he is circumsized or not. In your attempt for people to be some kind of "loremasters" of Metal Gear Solid, they just come off as unbelievably faggy and annoying.

2. "Snake was based on so and so" is such a stupid fucking argument for *anything*. Kojima has flat out said Snake has been influenced by so many fucking people over the years. Kojima has said that Snake was based on Christopher Walken, Kurt Russle and Clint Eastwood at various points and for various different games. Even going off the cover of Metal Gear 1, he's using Kyle Reese pose from Terminator but looks far more like Don Johnson in the face, and I doubt that Kojima had much, if any, control over the original Metal Gears marketing artwork anyways.

This is the shit we argued about on the internet when we were retarded 13 year olds, it isn't something anyone should do past the age of like 16 at most. I feel like a fucking retard for even pointing out how retarded it is, but this is the Farms so par for the course I guess.

Dude, its a fucking conversation in an online forum, who the fuck cares if its retarded or not.
You seem to be invested yourself in it, dismising the points that go against the idea of Snake being blond and then when someone makes another point to him having brown hair you just call them autistic.
You can call it retarded all you want, but you got into it by yourself and are clearly in favor of one side

 

[draggs]

Solid Snake was a soulless ginger. The nanomachines + FOXDIE that Naomi injected him with were really a last ditch attempt to change his hair color so he would stop being soulless and have the spirit of the warrior

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Dude, its a fucking conversation in an online forum, who the fuck cares if its retarded or not.

Everyone: "Discussing MGS Rising memes and shit"

You: "I can't believe these retards think this fictional characters hair color is something I don't think. How could anyone think this?"

Me: "This is retarded, but here is why they thought that."

You: "Who cares if this is retarded? Why are you so invested!?"

Can you and whichever faggot gave you an invite go back to reddit, please?