Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

They should send home all men of fighting age, Russian and Ukranian. Failing that, set up some kind of reality TV show where Russian cowards are forced to fight Ukranian cowards in some kind of Running Man style event. The winner gets MRE's for the rest of the week.

As funny as that is, don't attribute cowardice to people you don't know. Life is too precious to just give it up for whatever cause, you only get one - it has to be a decision one makes for themselves. You're speaking out of your ass most likely having never faced a choice like this, and I hope you'll never have to.

Russia's attack on Ukraine is against everything I believe in, expressing which would get me in serious trouble - it's not exactly a convenient position to hold in Russia these days. You might call me a coward for keeping my head down, to which I'll say that only an idiot wouldn't be scared in these circumstances, but this is the least I can do to avoid getting involved into what I see as absolutely reprehensible. I don't really know what to do, but at the very least I know what not to, such as making my dissent known before that risk becomes justified and a way to effect change presents itself.
I'll run if I have to, because it's the right thing to do. Not because I don't want to die, but because I don't want to die for the ambitions of a botoxed KGB manlet who ruined my life. Rather be a living "coward" than "brave" fertilizer. It's the living who shapes the world, while the dead are mere memory.

 

[Fools Idol]

I don't understand why so many seething faggots have taken sides so passionately in this conflict when it has literally nothing to do with them and will not affect them in any way whatsoever. If you're not Russian or Ukranian why care so much?

I have some Lockheeb stock.

 

[Ghostse]

Speaking of edgy faggots…god damn lol calm down

Its not like US Marine rolling through Afghanistan stating the (correct) opinion that "A day with out a dead arab is a wasted day" - he's in a country with a lot of civilians, and while the line between civilian and combatant is fuzzy and moves, and that sort of attitude is the thing that causes mistakes.
Its not even like an Iraqi insurgent saying "A day without a dead American is an affront to allah", where the military force he's wishing harm on is largely doing a police mission.
There's no Russian non-combatants on the battlefield, only uniformed soldiers on an active front. The dead russians he's wanting to see aren't some guy on his way to the store or sitting his house with his family, or even some soldier manning a check point so an argument about the number of caliphs doesn't result in bombing fatalities; its the people shooting at him, shelling him and his men, and pillaging his country. Now if you were to have Ukie commander rolling through Donetsk city saying that... yeah, probably not the attitude of a guy you want leading your pacification effort.

Civies trying to police language of people in the actual shit is a particular pet peeve. Double so when its done with an agenda.

 

[RobotDog]

Good news for Ukraine, the sanctions will cause Russia to run out of missiles soon®, this time for real guys, trust the sanction process, if not the sanctions, the energy infrastructure will take care of those pesky weapons

 

[Dyn]

Its not like US Marine rolling through Afghanistan stating the (correct) opinion that "A day with out a dead arab is a wasted day"

No I would be pretty concerned if the troops deployed in Afghanistan didn't even know that the locals weren't Arabs.

 

[Ghostse]

Perun released a video exploring the ideas Russia and Ukraine are running out of artillery ammo. https://youtu.be/deK98IeTjfY

A bit interesting and he always backs things up with sources. Apparently Russian artillery is of low quality while consumption rates are outpacing production. Russia won’t “run out” so much as it would be constrained by production and shipping from other sources. Ukraine is in worse shape because they’re dependent on NATO shipment and production which has been gutted by years of peace.

I don't always agree with this dude's conclusions but he at least puts in the leg work to show where he's starting from.

One thing I think this video nails is the Media Filter™ being applied to reports from especially the Pentagon. Pentagon estimates made are using consistent definitions, which is why a report usually has a preface with how the numbers were arrived at and what one would need to do adjust the outcomes if the input numbers change. The report might also have said "Russian Stockpiles will be exhausted by January 2023" but the report might only be looking at storage and intentionally not counting new production.

No I would be pretty concerned if the troops deployed in Afghanistan didn't even know that the locals weren't Arabs.

I said Marine for a reason.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I didn't say they can't fight the Russians, now did I? But if you are starting to have weird murder fantasies to a point where if you don't fufil them, it kills your day, well, then something is unwell with you.

You have to kill the enemy in order to win wars. It's literally kill or be killed.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

You have to kill the enemy in order to win wars. It's literally kill or be killed.

I feel like you are deliberately not reading what I wrote

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Anyway, remember by the Russia sides admission, NATO had set up a puppet government, NATO has three Nuclear Powers. Why would Putin want to risk fucking with three Nuclear Powers instead of simply giving into their demands and pulling their support from Ukraine? That's the only sane thing to do, stop funneling his country's budget to a proxy conflict that could spill over and cause WWIII

Did you not read the post? I just fucking showed a diagram explaining exactly what their rationale is. Allowing Ukraine into NATO and to become a host to the Anti-Russian alliance is the no-go position. I'm not going over the 2014 coup shit again in this thread.

 

[Involuntary Celebrity]

haha we're so superior to these tolkien goblins, haha they can never hope to match us, haha please jesus i really hope they run out of bullets soon

 

[Fools Idol]

haha we're so superior to these tolkien goblins, haha they can never hope to match us, haha please jesus i really hope they run out of bullets soon

Well I'm not dying in a trench (yet) so I feel pretty superior.

 

[Ghostse]

Did you not read the post? I just fucking showed a diagram explaining exactly what their rationale is. Allowing Ukraine into NATO and to become a host to the Anti-Russian alliance is the no-go position. I'm not going over the 2014 coup shit again in this thread.

But by your own interpretation of events, NATO - with THREE nuclear nations in it mind you - installed a puppet government in Ukraine. Why would anyone risk WWIII by trying to piss off three nuclear nations being they'd taken over the country? There was even a vote for a new pro-EU government. Why didn't Russia just work out a treaty and cede Ukraine's territory in exchange for peace?

 

[mindlessobserver]

1Did you not read the post? I just fucking

showed a diagram explaining exactly what their rationale is. Allowing Ukraine into NATO and to become a host to the Anti-Russian alliance is the no-go position. I'm not going over the 2014 coup shit again in this thread.

Their rationale sucks. It made sense in the 19th century to want a naturally defensible western border, not so much in the 21st century. Russias rationale these days is nothing but naked naval gazing about an empire they simply could not maintain.

Maybe if the commies hadn't wholesale slaughtered the Russian population, catered the economy and pissed off all the occupied minorities in the process the Empire could have held. But that is not the future we live in.

Attempting to recreate it now is nothing more then a dream. It's not real and it's not going to happen.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

There is a difference between killing because you need to and killing because you want to. 95% of the Russian army are just as much pawns of their government as Ukies are of theirs. If you cannot realize this and require dehumanizing and degrading your enemy to get through the day well you need to not be handed a weapon.

And I know I know all the internet tough guys will sperg out and say I don’t understand but you know what? I am okay not understanding that kind of psychosis.

 

[The Grognard]

But by your own interpretation of events, NATO - with THREE nuclear nations in it mind you - installed a puppet government in Ukraine. Why would anyone risk WWIII by trying to piss off three nuclear nations being they'd taken over the country? There was even a vote for a new pro-EU government. Why didn't Russia just work out a treaty and cede Ukraine's territory in exchange for peace?

As far as the Siloviki are concerned, the west has salami-sliced their way into the gates of Moscow and thus action is necessary. They also wouldn't accept losing Sevastopol because it's about as important to the Russian navy as Pearl Harbor is to the US navy. They wouldn't have accepted such an intolerable peace any more than United States would tolerate Soviet missiles in Cuba.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Disclaimer:
This post contains War Footage, which makes it a superior form of expression and very valuable. As you can see in the War Footage, there are people dying, getting butchered, wounded, people surrendering and running, and because this is My Side that is doing it to Your Side, I get to be really smug about it and pretend it's super cozy and manly that this is happening.
Sure this is just the village of Novoselivske, but who cares, it's war footage with superimposed dramatic music and dudes yelling, so obviously this means they are winning while you are losing.

ШТУРМ НОВОСЕЛІВСЬКОГО | СПЕЦПІДРОЗДІЛ КРАКЕН | SPECIAL FORCES UNIT KRAKEN

Штурм НовоселівськогоСилами штурмових груп підрозділу, при підтримці артилерії та важкої техніки спецпідрозділу KRAKEN та сил 92 ОМБ було здійснено вогневий ...

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[Absurdist Laughter]

#Tinfoilhattime

What if America wants to Puerto Rico Ukraine? What sort of process would be needed in order to expand? The way US is buddy buddying with Ukraine, well, other than it really comes across as friends with benefits, will America take the next step and marry?

 

[Doinker Marmalade]

I don't understand why so many seething faggots have taken sides so passionately in this conflict when it has literally nothing to do with them and will not affect them in any way whatsoever. If you're not Russian or Ukranian why care so much?

I don't understand why so many seething faggots have taken an issue so passionately about this thread when it has literally nothing to do with them and will not affect them in any way whatsoever. If you're not a participant in the thread why care so much?

 

[Dyn]

I don't understand why so many seething faggots have taken an issue so passionately about this thread when it has literally nothing to do with them and will not affect them in any way whatsoever. If you're not a participant in the thread why care so much?

I stumbled into the thread and saw a bunch of retards seething about vatniks and khokols for almost 500 pages and asked what the fuck is going on with you people, on what planet is that the same as caring passionately?

 

[Vesperus]

I stumbled into the thread and saw a bunch of retards seething about vatniks and khokols for almost 500 pages and asked what the fuck is going on with you people, on what planet is that the same as caring passionately?

I think you need thread 1 for that.

At this point I just want India to carpet nuke Ukraine so everybody else has to go and sit in the corner and think about what they did.

They managed to make war look gay.
How is that even possible?