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I think the hypocrisy angle is pretty weak against ya boi, certainly. We seem to not be getting a sperg out damage control arc either, unfortunately.

Also, I think for the anti-CG SJWs, who are, like all Godless filth, into moral relativism, "hypocrisy" is all they can get him on. They can't get him on degeneracy, cuckoldry, or retardation, because in their lolcow ideology, there's nothing mockable with any of that. (STOP LAUGHING!) They can only criticize him for some imagined violation of his own code, and uh, being White or something.

Therefor I declare Ya Boi Retard gets a pass from me on all charges of hypocrisy and I will continue to make fun of him for the real reasons: He's dumb, he's degenerate, and he's a cuck. In other words, he's a lolcow.

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I'm also not fully on board with the hypocrisy angle. As I said before, I never thought Zack was some sort of moral paragon. He's left too many single mothers in his wake to believe that. Not that I think he's a completely unethical, immoral scumbag or anything, I've just never really perceived him as riding some moral high horse.


Yes. The SJWs are the "sex work is real work" crowd and they don't stand for kinkshaming, either. If Waid was filmed kissing his cum mouthed girlfriend during an anal fisting gangbang, there would be a Who's Who of current year comics pros defending why it's totally cool and how it's not nearly as bad as Warren Ellis jerking off to cybersex with wannabe Suicide Girls or something.


And that's what both people who love and people who hate Meyer will be criticizing him for. It's not that he's being judged by the standards of a morality he never really espoused, he's being judged by the moral code CG had developed since shortly after its inception. CG has plenty of people currently (Lopresti) formerly (Smiller, Tennapel) adjacently (Ernst) involved with them who do profess strong religious morals. I'm fairly positive Ethan isn't a practicing Mormon these days, but many times has publicly said he was a Christian and has no issue calling out moral degeneracy. CG channels from the slums on up are regularly talking about cultural issues and Zack only ever really talks about SJWs writing shitty books. He's only going to talk about drag queens twerking in front of kids if Vita Ayala writes it into an issue of X-Men.

The hypocrisy aspect is just a side effect of Zack's soft separation from CG. He never actually disavowed them so, for better or worse, he's still CG in the eyes of both his critics and his paypigs. Until he makes a video called "FUCK COMICSGATE AND ALSO ETHAN" he will still have the CG taint on him. Of course, he'll never do that because a very large part of his remaining audience is "CG4Lyfe" and fully, publicly disavowing CG means the end of his comics career.


Exactly. Zack's not a hypocrite, he's a fucking 50 year old autist who loves GI Joe, frozen breakfast burritos, and hardcore anal fisting gangbangs. I can't wait to hear his response to all this, if he even has one. I wouldn't put it past him to just completely ignore it.

Just so we can put this retardation to bed, @FROG confirmed on his recent livestream that that is the one and only Richard C. Meyer in that porn. He presumably spoke to Zack.


Some quotes from the above timestamp.

"I don't know what HE was there for. HE told me about this. A little bit of info. I know much more than I can say."
"I don't know the woman was who HE is with, but HE is in the background."

(emphasis is mine)

Can we move on from this now?

No. Richard has called people fucking sex pests and weirdos for years. He made fun of Scott Snyder and the ally ship thing. If you can't find videos of his sanctimony it's because he fucking deleted so much of his shit over the years.

If this was Donny Cates or Mark Waid, I'd laugh my ass off at them. I'd point and banter and have fun. I like Rackets waaaayyyyy more than I like Richard and I've gone in on him.

So yes, I will point and laugh. Richard deserves some shit for a literal fucking gang bang porno. I'm also interested in who dropped this and Ethan defending him for it, I guess?

If you file a defamation case you'd best be pure as the driven snow because pretty much anything you've ever done will come out. If it gets to an actual trial, and you have to demonstrate you were harmed by defamation, the worse your reputation was beforehand the less you collect (and if it is bad enough you just flat-out lose as a libel-proof plaintiff).

Maybe not as the driven snow. But Dick Meyers has three kids and is a grown ass man who apparently took part in a fucking gang bang.

Who even knows if this is all there is? Apparently CG people sat on this thing, despite knowing it for years. What else has he hidden?
 
This Captain Finity character seems to be trying to run off a Doomcock persona with out the followers or charisma, he truthfully comes off as an autistic self righteous sperg with money to waste on a comic book no one will ever buy or read.
Dillard Draws took allot of money to prioritize sporks art, and explains why Dillard has gone you tube dark while creating this book. Dillard and Vic over the last 2 months have had some disagreements over Vic's art being sub par, and public discourse. I find this ongoing drama interesting for it fills the void of Finatra's Hiatus over streaming public access late 80's Soft porn, and well read user not streaming in 2 weeks.

if any one else has info please fill me in.
From what I recall, the Dillard/Vic split happened during Vic King's Great Beowar Long March where he got drunk off his ass and livestreamed himself cranking out $50 commissions for 12 hours a day, every day, for two solid months until his comic reached the $5000 funding goal. This was a great time of watching Vic's grip on reality steadily slip due to a combination of factors, such as stress over money, anxiety over his project funding, sleep deprivation, alcohol abuse and having to mutter into a webcam for hours on end as his only form of human contact. Over this period Vic accrued an eclectic menagerie of regulars; a mix of Fandom Rejects refugees looking for somewhere to go after the death of their own movement, CG Slum denizens, and bored unemployed british women who were for some bizarre, I theorize pathological reason, drawn to what they were seeing unfold during what was for them their daytime. Sometimes Vic would slur paranoid accusations towards people in the chat; other times he would aggressively propose marriage to the lardly bints he was streaming with. Vic's increasingly frayed psyche interacting with some of the worst slum denizens no longer welcome on any of the other streams was a good watch, but nothing I'd write up here.

Anyways, Jon Dillard (a self declared 'CG Slumlord') during all this was making regular appearances on Vic's channel, taking it upon himself to be the man who would dash Vic's dreams with pitiless, cold reality whenever the need arose. One such time was when Vic was crowing about how he put Mark Brooks in his place during Brooks' inaugural Youtube appearance on mysketchbook360's stream (to confront Vic) and Dillard said "No you didn't. He made you apologize to him for calling him a tracer. And you did." This was only the first part of a long line of Vic's harmless drunken bullshitting getting checked publicly by Dillard on Vic's own show. Things reached a head on one stream (I forget which) where he accused Dillard of not respecting him as an equal artist. JMoney was also there for some reason. For context for my fellow readers, here are two renditions of the same character 'Alizon' by King and Dillard respectively. Alizon was created by Vic in, uh, tribute of Comicsgate woman Ali Sanguis.


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Dillard said flatly by no means are he and Vic equals as artists. "Okay" said Vic, now in the bargaining stage, and made the offering that he'd be willing to concede that Dillard was better than him in some aspects of art if he was willing to concede that Vic was better than him in different aspects, like say composition. Dillard said no. Frustrated, Vic started raging about why does he have people on his show if they come there to shit on him to his face. JMoney, to whom shit-testing a creator is perhaps the sweetest vice, postulated the reason being related to Vic's intelligence. Felted at this point, Vic banned both characters from his show for life and holds the grudge to this day, which I'm sure keeps Dillard up at night.

Captain Finity's story is much shorter. He, like every CG newfag, is a self-proclaimed "OGCG" even though nobody has ever heard of him, has no connections and thus must establish himself by hunting for slumtown CG streams where the link to join is publicly shared. Like Vic's. From what I can tell, Finity actually washed up from TUG's juche cult. What happened was he got on Vic's channel once and immediately tried to AMOG Vic, who in turn booted him for being a dick. This created a longlasting emnity that burns to this day and I guess now Finity is spite-spending his money by having Dillard draw this book that has zero marketing platform to sell it.
 
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From what I recall, the Dillard/Vic split happened during Vic King's Great Beowar Long March where he got drunk off his ass and livestreamed himself cranking out $50 commissions for 12 hours a day, every day, for two solid months until his comic reached the $5000 funding goal. This was a great time of watching Vic's grip on reality steadily slip due to a combination of factors, such as stress over money, anxiety over his project funding, sleep deprivation, alcohol abuse and having to mutter into a webcam for hours on end as his only form of human contact. Over this period Vic accrued a sort of menagerie of regulars; a mix of Fandom Rejects refugees looking for somewhere to go after the death of their own movement, CG Slum denizens, and bored unemployed british women who were for some bizarre, I theorize pathological reason, drawn to what they were seeing unfold during what was for them their daytime. Sometimes Vic would slur paranoid accusations towards people in the chat; other times he would aggressively propose marriage to the lardly bints he was streaming with. Vic's increasingly frayed psyche interacting with some of the worst slum denizens no longer welcome on any of the other streams was a good watch, but nothing I'd write up here.

Anyways, as this was happening Jon Dillard (a self declared 'CG Slumlord') was making regular appearances on Vic's channel. At some point during all this, Dillard took it upon himself to be the man who would dash Vic's dreams with pitiless, cold reality whenever the need arose. One such time was when Vic was crowing about how he put Mark Brooks in his place during Brooks' first livestream appearance on mysketchbook360's stream and Dillard said "No you didn't. He made you apologize to him for calling him a tracer. And you did." This was only the first part of a long line of Vic's harmless drunken bullshitting getting checked publicly by Dillard on Vic's own show. Things reached a head on one stream (I forget which) where he accused Dillard of not respecting him as an equal artist. JMoney was also there for some reason. For context for my fellow readers, here are two renditions of the same character 'Alizon' by King and Dillard respectively. Alizon was created by Vic in, uh, tribute of Comicsgate woman Ali Sanguis.


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Dillard said flatly by no means are he and Vic equals as artists. "Okay" said Vic, now in the bargaining stage, now offering that he'd be willing to concede that Dillard was better than him in some aspects of art if he was willing to concede that Vic was better than him in different aspects, like say composition. Dillard said no. Frustrated, Vic started raging about why does he have people on his show if they come there to shit on him to his face. JMoney, to whom shit-testing a creator is perhaps the sweetest vice, postulated the reason being related to Vic's intelligence. Felted at this point, Vic banned both characters from his show for life and holds the grudge to this day, which I'm sure keeps Dillard up at night.

Captain Finity's story is much shorter. He, like every CG newfag, is a self-proclaimed "OGCG" even though nobody has ever heard of him, has no connections and thus must establish himself by hunting for slumtown CG streams where the link to join is publicly shared. Like Vic's. From what I can tell, Finity actually washed up from TUG's juche cult. What happened was he got on Vic's channel once and immediately tried to AMOG Vic, who in turn booted him for being a dick. This created a longlasting emnity that burns to this day and I guess now Finity is spite-spending his money by having Dillard draw this book that has zero marketing platform to sell it.

Funny how everyone is OG when it's time to cash out, eh?

By the way, what's your take on the details Frog dropped? The allegations that Richard would be CG and on twitter if people hadn't allegedly blackmailed him with this thing that they apparently knew about for years?

It's a bit of spin that's hard for me to take, especially because, now that it's out, wouldn't Richard be on ALLCAP and reactivating his Twitter?
 
Thanks for such a detailed break down on the subject. I tune in for back ground noise, and laugh listen to drunk Slumlords like Ryzie lee, And Anth rant about nothing.
I admire Vic King for one reason, his work ethic. Granted his art may be ab-salute dog shit, but no one else in comics gate is on stream nearly every day pumping out art begging for 30 bucks. I have witnessed one of his drunk streams, he left the camera on when he passed out, but over all he is at most a binge drinker. I remember testify (D.E.D.) hinting he may be a heroin addict, thats all speculation.
This Captain Finity character though I found his Chan; this guy streams to 1 - 9 people 6 times a day, thinks he is some hot shit, and Vic tore his ass apart one night, it was fun. So now Dillard took the money and is drawing the book.
 
For what it's worth, I found some of Richard's "greatest hits" here. It seems to reference a lot of his deleted content.


However, I presume that is a highly fragmented and incomplete record. Also, possibly bias because of Bleeding Cool's political leanings.

By the way, what's your take on the details Frog dropped? The allegations that Richard would be CG and on twitter if people hadn't allegedly blackmailed him with this thing that they apparently knew about for years?

It's a bit of spin that's hard for me to take, especially because, now that it's out, wouldn't Richard be on ALLCAP and reactivating his Twitter?
I always presumed he fucked off because cucking on the lawsuit was embarrassing AF. Having to face down anti-CG after that on Twitter probably wouldn't have been fun.

I agree trying to recast that as him being a victim of blackmail sounds like spin to salvage Richard's reputation, but who knows. I often feel like I'm between a rock and a hard spot on these things because SJWs suck and do nefarious things, but CG isn't above being full of shit. It's maddening sometimes.

The other thing is that if we presume this was an known by so many people, it seems like it would have leaked long before now. Wouldn't it have? Like Benjamin Franklin once said, three people can keep a secret only if two of them are dead.
 
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Funny how everyone is OG when it's time to cash out, eh?

By the way, what's your take on the details Frog dropped? The allegations that Richard would be CG and on twitter if people hadn't allegedly blackmailed him with this thing that they apparently knew about for years?

It's a bit of spin that's hard for me to take, especially because, now that it's out, wouldn't Richard be on ALLCAP and reactivating his Twitter?

Richie has gone dark for three days, which is an eternity for him.

Also, this is the guy who dropped the info on Rich. I’m leaning on that he is someone that we most definitely have heard of.

If not, than that’s a pretty good God damned find for a rando.

 
By the way, what's your take on the details Frog dropped? The allegations that Richard would be CG and on twitter if people hadn't allegedly blackmailed him with this thing that they apparently knew about for years?

It's a bit of spin that's hard for me to take, especially because, now that it's out, wouldn't Richard be on ALLCAP and reactivating his Twitter?
Yeah, why not name the blackmailers now that they have no blackmail?

One possible answer is that they have more blackmail. Sure there's a video of Simple Zack getting masturbated through his sweatpants while an aged whore gets her vagina rowed. Maybe what's still to be found makes that look relatively normal.

Another is that Simple Zack doesn't want to have to acknowledge that the arguments he's been espousing over the past 3-4 years, like why everyone should leave twitter or how nobody should support groups like CG, etc were things he was peddling to his audience that he knew were bullshit the whole time, but he had to do them and then justify it with what amounted to sophistry to his followers because a bunch of comic industry failures on twitter unable to support themselves owned his ass lock stock and barrel. For someone who's trade is in ideas, this is incredibly damning. It's one thing to make decisions and take stances so irrational that onlookers must conclude he's a fucking retard. It's another to flat out say that his public stances, positions and reasoning he was using his platform to persuade his audience into thinking were ones that he knew were wrong. Compromised. Why the fuck should anyone listen to him or his ideas ever again? Everything he's said and will say is forever discredited if what Frog claims is true.
 
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It's a bit of spin that's hard for me to take, especially because, now that it's out, wouldn't Richard be on ALLCAP and reactivating his Twitter?
Depends on what else is out there that we don't know about. Yet.

It's pretty telling that a brand new account posted it here and then seemingly ran off after Null yells at him in a profile post (click his profile and scroll down). What are the odds that someone familiar enough with CG to recognize Zack just happened to be watching the one humiliation-porn video that Zach participated in? I'm leaning towards a zero chance of that just randomly happening.
 
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No. Richard has called people fucking sex pests and weirdos for years. He made fun of Scott Snyder and the ally ship thing. If you can't find videos of his sanctimony it's because he fucking deleted so much of his shit over the years.

If this was Donny Cates or Mark Waid, I'd laugh my ass off at them. I'd point and banter and have fun. I like Rackets waaaayyyyy more than I like Richard and I've gone in on him.

So yes, I will point and laugh. Richard deserves some shit for a literal fucking gang bang porno. I'm also interested in who dropped this and Ethan defending him for it, I guess?
To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying Zack shouldn't be ridiculed for this. He deserves all the pointing, laughing, and bantering that KF and everyone else can muster. All I was saying was that the reason for doing so shouldn't be because he's a hypocrite but because he's a fucking sick degen coomer who went to a gross gangbang and kissed his girl after she ate a stranger's room temperature load.

Calling someone a sex pest and then attending a gangbang isn't really hypocrisy. They're two different things. Calling someone a weirdo while actually being a weirdo is hypocritical in a general sense but I still think it's a lesser order of hypocrisy than if someone like Mike S. Miller had been in that video.

The only people here who are saying Zack doesn't deserve everything he gets from this are the few idiots saying it was a fucking doppelganger and not the real Meyer.
 
If not, than that’s a pretty good God damned find for a rando.
I have my doubts that he's a rando, but the bigger issue is that whomever they are, their initial posts are utter dogshit.

Null is not happy with that guy, and that's likely why it wasn't featured:

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My attempt to intervene and unfuck:

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Holy shit, I leave for a week and this shit happens.
To be perfectly clear, I'm not saying Zack shouldn't be ridiculed for this. He deserves all the pointing, laughing, and bantering that KF and everyone else can muster. All I was saying was that the reason for doing so shouldn't be because he's a hypocrite but because he's a fucking sick degen coomer who went to a gross gangbang and kissed his girl after she ate a stranger's room temperature load.

Calling someone a sex pest and then attending a gangbang isn't really hypocrisy. They're two different things. Calling someone a weirdo while actually being a weirdo is hypocritical in a general sense but I still think it's a lesser order of hypocrisy than if someone like Mike S. Miller had been in that video.

The only people here who are saying Zack doesn't deserve everything he gets from this are the few idiots saying it was a fucking doppelganger and not the real Meyer.
I'm partly with you when it comes to the hypocrisy argument. It always seemed to me that Zack was preaching more about keeping the degeneracy out of the comics and not using your degeneracy to get work in the industry (i.e. Mags) and not about what people did in their private lives(this was/is more of a frog thing). I will say I'm not as big of Zacstorian as most here, so I could be wrong.

Where I do think Zack is a hypocrite is that I remember a lot of videos where Zack calls a lot of people cucks.

I whole heartily agree that Zack deserves and needs to be laughed at and ridiculed.
 
Yeah, why not name the blackmailers now that they have no blackmail?

One possible answer is that they have more blackmail. Sure there's a video of Simple Zack getting masturbated through his sweatpants while an aged whore gets her vagina rowed. Maybe what's still to be found makes that look relatively normal.

Another is that Simple Zack doesn't want to have to acknowledge that the arguments he's been espousing over the past 3-4 years, like why everyone should leave twitter or how nobody should support groups like CG, etc were things he was peddling to his audience that he knew were bullshit the whole time, but he had to do them and then justify it with what amounted to sophistry to his followers because a bunch of comic industry failures on twitter unable to support themselves owned his ass lock stock and barrel. For someone who's trade is in ideas, this is incredibly damning. It's one thing to make decisions and take stances so irrational that onlookers must conclude he's a fucking retard. It's another to flat out say that his public stances, positions and reasoning he was using his platform to persuade his audience into thinking were ones that he knew were wrong. Compromised. Why the fuck should anyone listen to him or his ideas ever again? Everything he's said and will say is forever discredited if what Frog claims is true.

This is where I land, rather than debating just how big of a fucking hypocrite he is.

The way this sounds is something really dark and twisted working in CG; but how convenient we don't know who or what.

I'm not saying bullshit. But where I sit there's three possible scenarios.

* It's all true. Frog is telling the truth. A group in CG blackmailed Richard and that led to his choices.

* Richard either lied or misled Frog. It's not as if he's incapable of deception. He could have even simply been vague letting Frog fill in the blanks and after what happened with his colorist he jumped to something that has happened before.

* Frog lied. It's not as if Frog never lies. This was an opportunity to create a vague enemy, further a narrative, and maybe cause some doubt.

For me, it's something where Frog created this mess by trying to half explain things. But actual information. Names and motives. That's how this gets cleared up.
 
Guys you can assert that participating in an anal gangbang porno movie is stupid, shameful and disgusting without having to take into account whether it's ideologically consistent of the person doing it or not. Hypocritical or not, Meyer spoke about people and subjects with a moral and business authority it turns out he doesn't actually possess.
I guess you are right. Also, this is pretty much par for the course when it comes to the A-list people/leaders/former leaders of CG(or any "culture war" movement).
 
If Meyer was being blackmailed, it would be interesting to find out what he was being blackmailed for in exchange for silence.... and why was the blackmail material released.


Then again, I don't see how could he be blackmailed.

If this was some clandestine film made at a private party or commissioned for just a single client.... maybe

But Medieval Weevil's video was a (for whatever the word is worth here) "professional" porn film from 2013-2014 for commercial purposes. Zack cannot be stupid enough to be blackmailed with a film that's already available on the internet. Even if the hypothetical blackmailer keeps his side of the deal, there was no guarantee someone else wasn't going to find it.

Also, the film's owner/producer had to be in on the blackmail racket as well, because he would have to recoup his... what, 2K, 5K, 15K, 25K investment? Plus whatever profit these things are expected to make. This in order to withhold the film from further circulation from 2017 onwards when YBZ became a person of interest, quite difficult considering that the porn industry is rife with piracy.
 
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Then again, I don't see how could he be blackmailed.

If this was some clandestine film made at a private party or commissioned for just a single client.... maybe

But Medieval Weevil's video was a (for whatever the word is worth here) "professional" porn film from 2013-2014 for commercial purposes. Zack cannot be stupid enough to be blackmailed with a film that's already available on the internet. Even if the hypothetical blackmailer keeps his side of the deal, there was no guarantee someone else wasn't going to find it.

Also, the film's owner/producer had to be in on the blackmail racket as well, because he would have to recoup his... what, 2K, 5K, 15K, 25K investment? Plus whatever profit these things are expected to make. This in order to withhold the film from further circulation from 2017 onwards when YBZ became a person of interest, quite difficult considering that the porn industry is rife with piracy.
That's a good point. How do you blackmail someone with a video that's been on the internet for a decade? Even on the producer's website the trailer is accessible for free and Zack's all over it, so it isn't like this blackmail material is secured behind a paywall, to say nothing about the probable hundreds of porn sites that have reposted pirated clips, if not the entire thing.

I'm not saying he wasn't blackmailed with it but if he was, it sort of confirms (to my mind anyway) that this is a one-off thing and there's probably not a cache of Zack porn hidden in plain sight across the internet. Being able to keep a lid on the existence of a single porn video with Zack in the background for ten years is one thing, but keeping several of them a secret for that long seems like a real stretch and most definitely something we would have heard about before 2023. If true, anti-CG/anti-Zack has done an admirable job of staying absolutely silent about it since 2017. But who knows? Stranger shit has happened and Zack has a track record of being extremely lucky.

I'd also considered the idea that if there were blackmailing gayops against Ya Boi, it could possibly have been coming from WC. I just don't know if there's any way those faggots could have kept their mouths shut about it this long.
 
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Meyer spoke about people and subjects with a moral and business authority it turns out he doesn't actually possess.
See, I don't get that.
What moral and business authority do you need to make a YouTube video where you say a comic is full of crap no one wants?
Either you agree with the reasoning in it or you don't.

You should assume that every YouTuber is a huge degenerate and a piece of shit.
 
I'm not saying he wasn't blackmailed with it but if he was, it sort of confirms (to my mind anyway) that this is a one-off thing and there's probably not a cache of Zack porn hidden in plain sight across the internet. Being able to keep a lid on the existence of a single porn video with Zack in the background for ten years is one thing, but keeping several of them a secret for that long seems like a real stretch and most definitely something we would have heard about before 2023.
Either whoever revealed this already knew about it long ago, though, or else they're just super into anal gangbangs and whatever other weird shit happened in that video.
 
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