Argue about women or something

[Dylan]

Men and women have very huge disparage in capacity of being morons or having detrimental qualities of character.
I'm going to point out a very unpleasant fact that male and female brains have structural differences like many other things in their bodies. Women first act on emotions and rationalize later, if they ever have to. And that's because areas responsible for rational decisions are smaller while the parts responsible for emotions are bigger, this is just reality of our biological nature.

 

[Ser Prize]

Men and women have very huge disparage in capacity of being morons or having detrimental qualities of character.
I'm going to point out a very unpleasant fact that male and female brains have structural differences like many other things in their bodies. Women first act on emotions and rationalize later, if they ever have to. And that's because areas responsible for rational decisions are smaller while the parts responsible for emotions are bigger, this is just reality of our biological nature.

Women also practice in-group preference generally, whereas men aren't as inclined to do so naturally. This, I think, goes a long way as to explaining why arguments like the ones in this thread pop up.

People accuse me of hating women often and I find it quite insulting. I was raised by a woman. I don't hate women but I do dislike their bad habits and wish you were allowed to point them out more often. Stuff like women almost always covering for other women and trying to downplay accountability and/or shift whatever misdeed they've committed to be the fault of the nearest man in her life.

 

[Aurora Gorey Alice]

The number of y'all who act as if women have a hive-mind conscious is astonishing. Every human behavior and trait can be modeled along a bell curve. While there are certain behaviors/traits that on average more men display, that doesn't mean that a woman cannot have them. It's just a matter of how frequent something is within the population that determines our idea of what is normal for each gender.



Humans are neither blank slates nor slaves to biology. We determine our own future, which is shaped by our biological capacity. Yes, there are absolutely vapid, emotionally-driven, dependent, narcissistic women out there, but that does not mean that all women lack the capacity to be independent, critically thinking, individuals. Maybe there are more dependent women than independent, and that has certainly been the case throughout history, but it's fallacious to lump all women in that category. Even when the biological reality for most women meant they would die in childbirth at age 24, there were women who went their own way. There were highly educated women in medieval convents. Saint Hildegard de Bingen, for one. Quite a few noble women pursued education as well. Absolutely not as many as educated men, but the few women that did achieve that, did so against social backlash. They wanted it so much that they put themselves through drama to achieve it.

Even the biological differences between female and male brains are on a bell curve. The differences are between the average member of each sex, not every member. So while more women may think emotionally, that doesn’t mean all women do.


And to address the claim that women did not contribute to society's advancement-- many women did the background work. And other women either had their ideas co-opted by men, for example, c-sections were practiced by Ugandan midwives long before the procedure became popular in the West. Modern nursing and the practice of fucking washing your hands before performing surgery was developed by women. These are vital contributions, not to mention the vitality of raising every person to ever exist and feeding many of them!



My point is, the quality of a person's mind is independent of their sex. Gender roles have changed throughout every era, but emerged out of the biological reality that women faced higher mortality rates due to childbirth. Now that medical science has eliminated much of the risk, roles are changing and people have more freedom to live their lives as they will.



Finally, the modern idea of "traditional" gender roles is a perverse creation of the 1950s, in response to the economic and social pressures of the time. Lower class women always worked. Get your head out of your ass and think before lumping all women as brainless bangmaids in waiting.

 

[Aurora Gorey Alice]

Men and women have very huge disparage in capacity of being morons or having detrimental qualities of character.
I'm going to point out a very unpleasant fact that male and female brains have structural differences like many other things in their bodies. Women first act on emotions and rationalize later, if they ever have to. And that's because areas responsible for rational decisions are smaller while the parts responsible for emotions are bigger, this is just reality of our biological nature.

Sir— that is the most surface level, pop-science take on sex differences in the brain I’ve ever heard. Did you just read the abstract of the paper?

All those differences are on a bell curve. Maybe more women display emotional, irrational thinking than men. That doesn’t mean ALL women are incapable of logical thought. And the “areas of our brains associated with rational decisions” being smaller bit is so vague it’s meaningless!

News flash: neuroscientists can measure activity in a brain area and draw correlations, but there’s no one brain area responsible for “logical thought.” That’s some phrenology-level bullshit right there.

 

[redcent]

No, a high school slapfight with other girls doesn't count.

Or with boys either I take it? That's just fine

Look, nobody's going to repeal the 19th Amendment.

Looks like some people want it to though

Voting is and will remain something everyone's entitled to if you've got a pulse and survived 18 years. I'm sure we'll drop the voting age to 15 soon enough. But, you know, every so often, I'm reminded that women seem to believe a republic just fell out of the sky and landed on James Madison's lap, probably because he shoved Betsy Ross out of the way before she could catch it first.

Women didn't sit around doing nothing when they wanted those rights you know. It wasn't a case of one woman waking up and saying "I want the right to earn my own money/own my own things" and the men everywhere said "Yep, here you go, we're such swell guys." might not have been a bloody violence filled war, but it was a fight..

The republic you feel entitled to participate in was forged in war, and it wasn't a war women could have fought and won even if they'd wanted to. Women only have rights because they're handed them by men, and the men who are able to hand them to you only have that ability because they shot, stabbed, and tore to pieces other men who wanted to be their masters.

Anyone in a society has rights by your argument is due to other people, including you. If I want a broken leg fixed, it is by the duty of a doctor and to that particular doctor I feel gratitude towards. But it doesn't mean because I got my leg fixed up I should automatically give an extended thanks to say a doctor who through malpractice removes people's kidneys to sell on black market.

There are enough men who share rights only begrudgingly, had nothing to do with the process of giving away said rights, and at any opportunity they could would play predator and take them away. I feel no reason to give them any thanks.

They want thanks as an individual do something worth thanking for in the society they're in. Not because they happen to have a dick

I've seen enough memorials, battlefields and war cemeteries with women in tow to understand it's pointless to expect your kind to ever show the least bit of gratitude for the freedoms you enjoy due to sacrifices you are unable to make. I guess that's the nature of our species. Women have things because men secure them, and then they think those things just fall out of the sky. Gratitude must pose some kind of evolutionary disadvantage.

If you're talking about some war I wasn't comparing it to what veterans do. I'm sure it's very appreciatable.

You're not them

Every one who has a dick isn't them

I'm not talking to them

I'm talking to whatever wise ass wants to do away with people's rights

I'm talking to whatever predator out there licking their chomps at the notion of women having to depend 24/7 on marrying and abusing that as predators do. You never heard of that kind of abuse?

I'm talking to those salty about trannies and using that as an excuse to try and silence women.

Not a bloody violent war, no. But these sorts of things are a violence of their own

Question is, is that predator you? Hmmn?

Or what? What will women do?

I don't know, what will you do if you lose your rights?

I've seen people on this forum shit themselves over the covid drama and think Oz is some concentration camp, and shit themselves over any loss of gun rights. If that's who up against, it ain't much.

Pointing out their bullshit though is a nice stress relieving past time

 

[Gog & Magog]

Beautiful women with beautiful personalities make me happy

 

[RACISM]

Women are niggers.

 

[Tree]

Sir— that is the most surface level, pop-science take on sex differences in the brain I’ve ever heard. Did you just read the abstract of the paper?

All those differences are on a bell curve. Maybe more women display emotional, irrational thinking than men. That doesn’t mean ALL women are incapable of logical thought. And the “areas of our brains associated with rational decisions” being smaller bit is so vague it’s meaningless!

News flash: neuroscientists can measure activity in a brain area and draw correlations, but there’s no one brain area responsible for “logical thought.” That’s some phrenology-level bullshit right there.

Not all differences are on a bell curve. Consider a non-emergent phenomenon like blood type. Then there's genitalia: either you're a girl or a boy. The few anomalies here don't make it a bell curve. Behavioral and other mental differences are the same way but they're harder to discern as they are emergent phenomenon of genetic factors with functional overlap. A crass simplification might be comparing CPU instruction sets. You can manage to do floating point arithmetic using only integer instructions, but the machine will certainly behave differently on a practical level if it uses a CPU with physical circuits dedicated to floating point arithmetic.

Anyway it's a bit ironic accusing others of pop-science when it sounds like you've just got done listening to Jordan Peterson or the like talk about bell curves.

"Let us complain about this problem but don't you fucking dare bring up the stuff that brought us here!"

You don't understand, we have to solve all the problems giving women direct political agency causes without taking any of that agency away from them. Otherwise we're incels or something.

On the whole, women are a dream for liberal democracy. They are more susceptible to propaganda, and a lot more so if they can be alienated from male role models (e.g. unmarried). Their brains are hardwired for social acceptance and they align themselves along emotional triggers rather than abstract principles or observed realities. They literally adopt the moral framework of whoever holds the most authority in their lives, almost without exception. Simply put, they are objectively easier to manipulate and herd, and liberal democracy is the best system we've got only when it comes to treating its population like cattle.

(To be fair most men also cede moral authority, but a superminority always aim to (re)build things from the ground up, as it were.)

 

[Aurora Gorey Alice]

@Tree
I never implied that there were no differences between male and female brains. Nor did I imply that structural differences between the sexes don’t exist. What I said is that the cognitive differences are not as clear cut “women no logic, only feelings” as practically everybody on this thread is saying.

While women may show a more emotional reaction to certain problems, most studies show both sexes falling on the same rational arguments when coming to the solution.

Different doesn’t mean inferior. You can acknowledge difference between sexes without putting one on top. Both are necessary. What’s stupid is lumping all girls in one character box and all boys in another.

 

[Poop Shoot]

Anyone who says women are the emotional ones has never seen Lindsay Grahams histrionics.

 

[redcent]

You don't understand, we have to solve all the problems giving women direct political agency causes without taking that agency away from them. Otherwise we're incels or something.

Since when?

If you're talking about the who-to-blame-trannydom-on, it's stupid. Men don't have magical wands to control other men they don't know, and women don't have magical wands to control other women they don't know.

On the whole, women are a dream for liberal democracy. They are more susceptible to propaganda,

Browsing A&H leads me to believe otherwise

and a lot more so if they can be alienated from male role models (e.g. unmarried). Their brains are hardwired for social acceptance

Of who?

Everyone hates single women what else is new?

and they align themselves along emotional triggers rather than abstract principles or observed realities. They literally adopt the moral framework of whoever holds the most authority in their lives, almost without exception. Simply put, they are objectively easier to manipulate and herd, and liberal democracy is the best system we've got only when it comes to treating its population like cattle.

The biggest sheep I know are the ones who stray from the herd, thinking it'll magically make them wolves, instead of being eaten by them.

(To be fair most men also cede moral authority, but a superminority always aim to build things from the ground up, as it were.)

This sounds like an ego stroking fest

Yeah, women are subject to manipulation but men even moreso. Men are manipulated into being slaves of their porn-stashes, their booze or drugs, their addictions. Those addictions cause them to manipulate others, women and men through abuse.

If men cede to morality more than women, there wouldn't be so much of this abuse.

If men weren't so malleable you would neither get porn addiction, nor cults with them getting led into blown up for 72 virgins. If men rarely get sucked into propaganda explain said cults. Explain gangs. Explain them getting sucked into doing dumb shit for cred from people who'd sooner trash their asses.

 

[Tree]

@Tree
I never implied that there were no differences between male and female brains. Nor did I imply that structural differences between the sexes don’t exist. What I said is that the cognitive differences are not as clear cut “women no logic, only feelings” as practically everybody on this thread is saying.

While women may show a more emotional reaction to certain problems, most studies show both sexes falling on the same rational arguments when coming to the solution.

Repeating myself: women, almost without exception, adopt the moral frame of whoever holds the most authority in their lives. Even if narrow studies show similarities, it'd be feminine to trust the authority of those studies over your own judgment and your own experiences. And it's not like these notions are contentious outside the reproducibility crisis of sociology and with honest people.

Different doesn’t mean inferior. You can acknowledge difference between sexes without putting one on top. Both are necessary. What’s stupid is lumping all girls in one character box and all boys in another.

The hell does different mean if not different in capacity? What is this some kids show where we're all special in our own ways? You can't argue with a women without this ethereal notion of "on top" coming up. It's called a shit test and women have honed this ability from the beginning of men giving them the courtesy of not just bending them over a rock. Women want someone on top, and will shit test until someone passes, then they'll happily submit (temporarily; they will retest). Trouble is they will shit test a civilization to death if they're allowed to.

 

[Shidoen]

I don’t care if you’re man or woman, vag or penis, I want my goddamn sandwiches to made with no mistakes, because most people arguing about this are wagies.

 

[Tree]

The biggest sheep I know are the ones who stray from the herd, thinking it'll magically make them wolves, instead of being eaten by them.

I agree, but if we don't want to be slaves we'd better be more like a pack of wolves than a herd of cattle.

Yeah, women are subject to manipulation but men even moreso. Men are manipulated into being slaves of their porn-stashes, their booze or drugs, their addictions. Those addictions cause them to manipulate others, women and men through abuse.

If men weren't so malleable you would neither get porn addiction, nor cults with them getting led into blown up for 72 virgins. If men rarely get sucked into propaganda explain said cults. Explain gangs. Explain them getting sucked into doing dumb shit for cred from people who'd sooner trash their asses.

Now we're just bickering that nobody is perfect. Ideally we'd both rather be mauling the shepherds trying to turn us into sheep. Men are better at doing the mauling, but it'd be worthless without a family to return to. Also that 72 virgins were promised is propaganda and untrue, spread by these same shepherds who love getting us to fight their battles.

 

[Poop Shoot]

Women are allowed to not want to touch your p.p. frien

 

[Glowie]

Gee they let MGTOW guy in.
I hope that you didn't shit up any important thread with same reddit 4chan /r9k/ tier shit.
Incel to troon pipeline is very real, go outside and meet women before its too late.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Beautiful women with beautiful personalities make me happy

Name at least five

 

[The NSA]

Stuff like women almost always covering for other women and trying to downplay accountability and/or shift whatever misdeed they've committed to be the fault of the nearest man in her life.

Women only cover for each other if the one they’re covering for is a friend or agrees with their ideology. Outside of that, there is no allegiance. One of the biggest problems in women dominated professions is the constant backbiting and infighting behind the scenes. Nursing/healthcare in particular is notorious for this.

Women cover for women they like and treat ones they disagree with neutral to poorly. As examples look how some women react to JK Rowling and women conservatives. And how conservative women reacted to Hilary and Kamala Harris. Anyone who thinks women are this united should pay closer attention to women’s group dynamics.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Women are confusing and might as well be an alien species. I don't HATE women, I just find them frustrating to communicate with.

So, yeah. Take THAT, ladies.

 

[Dylan]

>be female
>yass kween
>poor victim of male oppression
>oh the woes of having to chose make up and jeans without pockets
>pretty women on TV shows upset you
>seeing men having nice well paying jobs upset you
>feel like it's not fair for some reason and you deserve more
>don't want to put hard work into getting the looks and the high paying job
>complain about impossible beauty standards
>complain about the sexism at work
>every one says you deserve better because you are queen