Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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I also love that industrial powerhouse Russia must have definitely increased 155 production, but zero chance that the US has.
why would any US company shift from high end 155 to basic bitch 155 if they get paid anyway and high end 155 has a much better margin?

there are 3 countries that could fill any supply issues, china, inda and north korea. China and India with fresh production and north korea with endless stockpiles.
 
MArder are superior to those horrible bradleys. they also carry around superior TOWs, the same ukraine has been using for most of the war.
Marders have MILAN which are definitely not better than the twin TOW 2 a Bradley carries, and it's also much harder to rearm the MILAN since it's mounted externally instead of being built into the turret proper. It also has a worse gun and I can almost guarantee isn't anywhere near as upgraded as any Bradleys being sent to the ukes because they've been in storage for years at this point.

It's not even a bad vehicle but you're a dummy.
 
MArder are superior to those horrible bradleys. they also carry around superior TOWs, the same ukraine has been using for most of the war.
The Bradley has been battle-tested in multiple high-intensity armed conflicts and is probably the single best fire support and recon vehicle in existence as a result. What does the Marder have going for it over the Bradley?

Cannon? Well, no, that 20mm isn't quite as good as the Bushmaster. Yeah, it fires a lot faster but it will need to be overhauled as fast as the PzH 2000 unlike the Bushmaster which won't even jam until after 22,000 rounds have been put through it. TOW II is wireless unlike MILAN and has even more range, the Bradley is lighter than the Marder even with its armor package, and there's what, fifty of the latest 1A5A1 in service, tops?

Even the old-as-fuck M2A2 ODS package from the mid-90's is going to be better than the Marders Germany issues since the only ones you guys have in quantity are the equally old Marder 1A2.
It's not even a bad vehicle but you're a dummy.
Na, he's just one of the few nationalist Germans left in that country and has to compensate for his countrymen being cucks.
 
I thought Russia’s demands were:

-develop an official position of neutrality and stick to it.

-tell NATO (and by NATO, Putin means the US) that Ukraine will no longer be their attack dog.

-Let the regions of the east like Donestsk and Luhansk have closer ties with Russia because that’s what the people want.

Anything else is just online folks projecting their wish fulfillment onto the Russians.
Hah, that joke pretense ended alongside de-Nazification once Russia held those embarrassing referenda to "annex" the conquered territories.

They really stepped in it with that stupid decision but it makes sense given the Russian government is entirely headed by old farts from the Soviet Era who think the tactics that worked in the 1970s (edit: hell, 1950s) will convince people today. Everything Putin is doing is just old, tired Soviet thinking when the rest of the world has long since moved on from the failures of Communism.

Russia wants to conquer and annex Ukraine, that's all there is to it.
 
Wagner reportedly in center of Soledar. Fighting is ongoing, and fierce.



Translation "Battles for Soledar are ongoing, the opponent is desperately trying to hold us back, but we are moving. Speaking that the city is ours it is still early."

Ukrainians having a hard time, sorry can't translate:



I don't blame anyone not wanting to be thrown into this meatgrinder but I do resent anyone who demand others take their place.
Hah, that joke pretense ended alongside de-Nazification once Russia held those embarrassing referenda to "annex" the conquered territories.

They really stepped in it with that stupid decision but it makes sense given the Russian government is entirely headed by old farts from the Soviet Era who think the tactics that worked in the 1970s (edit: hell, 1950s) will convince people today. Everything Putin is doing is just old, tired Soviet thinking when the rest of the world has long since moved on from the failures of Communism.

Russia wants to conquer and annex Ukraine, that's all there is to it.
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Marders have MILAN which are definitely not better than the twin TOW 2 a Bradley carries, and it's also much harder to rearm the MILAN since it's mounted externally instead of being built into the turret proper. It also has a worse gun and I can almost guarantee isn't anywhere near as upgraded as any Bradleys being sent to the ukes because they've been in storage for years at this point.
the bradley is armed well, but who cares about that if you dont have the right engine? its the same issue as your MBT, it sucks, there is nothing better than a sturdy diesel...

The Bradley has been battle-tested in multiple high-intensity armed conflicts and is probably the single best fire support and recon vehicle in existence as a result. What does the Marder have going for it over the Bradley?
tested in a war against sandniggers who didnt have anything to shot back?

Cannon? Well, no, that 20mm isn't quite as good as the Bushmaster. Yeah, it fires a lot faster but it will need to be overhauled as fast as the PzH 2000 unlike the Bushmaster which won't even jam until after 22,000 rounds have been put through it. TOW II is wireless unlike MILAN and has even more range, the Bradley is lighter than the Marder even with its armor package, and there's what, fifty of the latest 1A5A1 in service, tops?
the gun is totaly fine, nobody overhauls them. they will get the blown out ones and rechambered ww2 MGs.
its all about the kind of armor and the engine.

Even the old-as-fuck M2A2 ODS package from the mid-90's is going to be better than the Marders Germany issues since the only ones you guys have in quantity are the equally old Marder 1A2.
nobody knows where those marder come from, if they ever show up.... thats the main issue, old german armor is sold the moment the new in shown at some convention...
 
What are the implications of the possibility the Biden Administration may use DHS to round up Ukrainians to send them into the meatgrinder while allowing illegals from our southern border to roam unimpeded?

DHS does not handle extraditions, so the implications are imaginary, just like Russian victory.
 
why would any US company shift from high end 155 to basic bitch 155 if they get paid anyway and high end 155 has a much better margin?

there are 3 countries that could fill any supply issues, china, inda and north korea. China and India with fresh production and north korea with endless stockpiles.

Tl;dr: They never shifted from Basic Bitch 155, they just contracted out the production to overseas-based entities that I super promise are completely different companies and definitely not wholly owned cayman shells so they can side-step arms sanctions. It been like 10 years since I cared (the post surge stockpile numbers on the backs of civie ammo shooting up) but the main ammo supplier runs like two basic-bitch lines just so they can say "We produce it domestically and could scale up if required" and the rest is high precision/guided.
They send overseas production to overseas bases, checking the box that says "We could produce this domestically, but we're using overseas purchases so its cheaper. Here is the state department signing off them being a reliable ally as long as they get paid."

You would switch because the order is for basic-bitch 155 and you might have supply issues with the high-speed components. Also security clearances take time and its easier to get someone cleared to work with WWII-era technology than WWIII-era technology.

Your list also left off South Korea, Pakistan, Taiwan, and I want to say Indonesia - maybe Malaysia or Phillipines, one of those Archipeligos. IIRC Myanmar's junta also runs their ammo factories 24x7 because no one else will sell weapons (openly) to them.
Argentina & South Africa also have a deceptively large arms industry - though they are too far (and too interested in remaining unaligned) to directly to contribute, but that's how you have fun shell games (HA!) like where Canada ships their 155 & 105s to Ukraine and South Korea, completely unrelated, sells a few thousand rounds to Canada. Australia doesn't make many shells but quietly produces a shit load of propellant.

I was trying to find a country-by-country breakdown I saw last year but can't find it now. Fortune has a good by-region breakdown.

I mean no one matches China, but unless you are just buying the housings.... chinese quality control (or lack there of). India has production CAPABILITY but also has quality control issues as well as infrastructure (both getting raw supplies to the factory, as well as moving finished product out) and corruption problems - but enough money could make those problems go away. India also has yuge stockpiles they probably could be made willing to part with. While the US is using this as an opportunity to fully turn over their stockpiles well before expiration date (and the Eurocucks are using it as an opportunity to discover their stockpiles are rotted & useless. kek.) India cares significantly less about the sell-by date of their ammo and from what everyone has been saying is missing an opportunity.

With the festivities in Syria, most of the middle east's coldwar stockpiles have already been tapped, so they aren't a big factor. Africa has a massive potential for scaling up production fairly quickly, but.... well, Africa.

tl;dr: You'd switch because of issues assembling the guided shells, and the order might be for a certain number of dumb rounds.

China and india have the potential to meet the supply both sides of the conflict, but may not be able to (or may chose to not to) realize that potential.
 
Brand new cope just dropped, after spending almost 1 year claiming Russia ran out of weapons since march now the khokhols and its tranny supporting sugar daddies in the west now claim Russia only has 19% of its strategic missiles, 78% of its tactical missiles and 12% of iranian drones left in inventory...
Take into consideration that this info was posted by Oleksii "Man tits" Reznikov, the same guy who claimed last week that Russia was going to call for a new mobilization in 7 days, so it must be true :story:

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What's funny to me is that people unironically believe this shit. I doubt even Russia or any country has a no bull shit 100% count on its stockpiles, so obviously, Ukraine isn't going to know how many missiles another country has. Likewise, it's not like they're unable to produce more of them so even if this count were accurate, there still wouldn't be a time line for them to "run out of missiles."
 
What's funny to me is that people unironically believe this shit. I doubt even Russia or any country has a no bull shit 100% count on its stockpiles, so obviously, Ukraine isn't going to know how many missiles another country has. Likewise, it's not like they're unable to produce more of them so even if this count were accurate, there still wouldn't be a time line for them to "run out of missiles."

There a video from a sperg that out lines how this goes:
You never run completely out of ammo, but you do adjust your consumption.

You can however make reasonable assumptions about stock levels. The Pentagon I'm sure has the serial numbers of every missile Russia has produced (and I'm sure they have the same for the US) and with the magic of space probably knows within 100 miles where every one of them is.

There is also....
Russia's cruise missile production was slated at something like 16 a month. So you can get the company financial documents and work backwards, and figure out exactly how many missiles Russia has made. You can look at contrails and figure out Russia's burn rate of those missiles, and figure when they are going to run out if they keep it up.
In a military report, this number and estimate will be a curve graphing "Missiles fired per day/week/month" and "How long can they keep it up?", and it will specify "But also if something changes these numbers, these graphs would also need to be updated.
So the number discounts things such as:
- Factories upping production (because there's a war on)
- Spare parts being turned into functional rockets.
- 3rd party purchases/external production
- Possibility of mis-identification/mis-counts of launches. (See: Slavs)

Russia also seems to be using a lot of shit-tier missiles to blitz the Ukrainian point-defenses, and screen the real missiles. They are using kamikaze drones and S300s modified for ground attack, and they are hitting electrical substations.
I have watched the night vision video recorded hilarity of an electrical substation being offlined for a day by a raccoon (and the raccoon being offlined....forever) so these are not hardened targets that require a precision strike. You toss some shrap into the electrolyte banks and its good night irene.

tl;dr: The reports are fine, the lugenpresse is doing their usual uninformed civie bullshit and not reading and comprehending what they're given, just spouting off the clickbait. Yookniks trying to propaganda bluster because Slavs, just like Russia for same reason (slavs).
Kherson was a trap, Russia is out of missiles, etc.
 
Marders have MILAN which are definitely not better than the twin TOW 2 a Bradley carries, and it's also much harder to rearm the MILAN since it's mounted externally instead of being built into the turret proper. It also has a worse gun and I can almost guarantee isn't anywhere near as upgraded as any Bradleys being sent to the ukes because they've been in storage for years at this point.

It's not even a bad vehicle but you're a dummy.
The modern variants of the Marder who are still in service with the Bundeswehr have the Jew/German developed ATGM (forgot it's name) but the chosen people won't allow the export of this version so they only get the older one with the MILAN.
Honestly the MILAN is quite decent. It has a excellent thermal image, that is often abused for reconnaissance.

So yeah the newest versions of the Marder don't have to hide behind the Bradley but the storage version.....eh the Marder was introduced in 1971.....why don't the Dutchies or Swedes send some CV90s? No doubt they are the most capable IFVs in the NATO arsenal right now who are also available in large numbers. They definetly shit on both the Bradley and the Marder simply because it's a Post Cold war tank. Swiss fags alone have over 200.
 
I thought Russia’s demands were:

-develop an official position of neutrality and stick to it.

-tell NATO (and by NATO, Putin means the US) that Ukraine will no longer be their attack dog.

-Let the regions of the east like Donestsk and Luhansk have closer ties with Russia because that’s what the people want.

Anything else is just online folks projecting their wish fulfillment onto the Russians.
What the demands are really does seem to depend on what day of the week it is. The most common are as I outlined a little way back in the thread: complete demilitarisation, non-membership of international blocs without Russian approval, and complete surrender of all territory claimed by Russia, which is significantly more than just those two eastern oblasts.

They have also, previously, complained because NATO refuses to return its military infrastructure to pre-1997 levels and to stop "expansion"* which would require NATO to deny membership to countries wanting to join as well as placing it at a military disadvantage. Why Russia thinks it can unilaterally dictate the policy of an external military alliance is beyond me.

* https://archive.is/v3PEY archive links don't seem to link properly at the moment
 
I thought Russia’s demands were:

-develop an official position of neutrality and stick to it.

-tell NATO (and by NATO, Putin means the US) that Ukraine will no longer be their attack dog.

-Let the regions of the east like Donestsk and Luhansk have closer ties with Russia because that’s what the people want.

Anything else is just online folks projecting their wish fulfillment onto the Russians.

Who's joining NATO? *Helicopter assaults the international Airport without a declaration of war*
Why the hell would any country that borders Russia or was part of the USSR want to join NATO? *Indiscriminately shells & rockets the suburbs of the capital*
Give one good reason they'd want do that. *Mortars active nuke plant*
Can you give me any reason? *forcibly relocates foreign citizens to inside russia*
Any reason at all? *Murders civilians and POWs*
You can't, can you? *Attacks civilian power grid in the middle of winter*
 
So yeah the newest versions of the Marder don't have to hide behind the Bradley but the storage version.....eh the Marder was introduced in 1971.....why don't the Dutchies or Swedes send some CV90s? No doubt they are the most capable IFVs in the NATO arsenal right now who are also available in large numbers. They definetly shit on both the Bradley and the Marder simply because it's a Post Cold war tank. Swiss fags alone have over 200.

Sometimes it's hard to remember that despite how fundamentally cucked Sweden as a nation is today, it used to be an actually relatively based country that knew what it was doing when it came to war. Some of that still lives on today, and if the CV90 wins the NGCV (is it still going on even?) I'll be 0% surprised. I'll also be 0% surprised if they select/selected something stupid instead, since US procurement seems to be constitutionally bound to use only the smoothest brains to staff its offices.
 
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