Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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I take it back. This is dumber than Avonstal. All Russia has to do is bomb the entrance and Ukraine will have a stockpile of salted pork for decades to come.
I'm reminded of this scene from Day of the Dead.

Regarding the fireworks in Kharkov, chatter says it was an ammo depot that got hit.

Some footage from the Ukrainian side in Bakhmut.
"Enemy breaking through our defenses on the left flank"
"Breaking through? Where?"
*boom* *runs*
 
We all know you are the dumbest nigger, but you don't need to keep proving it.

IFVs are not tanks. There are like APCs, but unlike APCs which are just intended as a battle taxi with light firepower, the IFV is intended to support its dismounted infantry with its main weapon. Tanks can carry infantry for Panzer-Grenadier tactics, but not internally.

Your complete up-your-assed wrongness doesn't stop there. AFVs are not a separate vehicle classification. They are the over-all classification that includes any vehicle that is armored and either armed or expected to see combat; AFVs are not tanks, Tanks are AFVs.

I suspect you are too busy trying to avoid getting Putin's prince albert snagged on your tonsils to actually read, but I'll continue. Tanks, incorrectly shorted from "Battle Tank" has historic definitions regarding classes, but the modern defintion is:


Please note the very specific not designed and equipped primarily to transport combat troops which means you can have Panzer-Grenadier type of battle chariot but it is still a Battle Tank.

Anything with a 75mm+ gun and doesn't meet the definition of APC, IFV or Battle Tank is just called a "heavy armament combat vehicle".

Thus the Bradley is not a tank, but you are a dumb faggot.


Also its hard to not laugh at the bradley bounties given what a 25mm autocannon does to infantry and (specifically for the bushmaster + optics) the ranges at which it will do it.
But a vehicle is really only as good as the crew, so I don't want to make predictions on how they'll do when the highly trained and skilled human crews are replaced with slavs fighting a slightly different breed of slav.
Perhaps you should take your own advice and learn how to read. I'll post it again and highlight the important parts for you.

"Tank, any heavily armed and armoured combat vehicle that moves on two endless metal chains called tracks. Tanks are essentially weapons platforms that make the weapons mounted in them more effective by their cross-country mobility and by the protection they provide for their crews. Weapons mounted in tanks have ranged from single rifle-calibre machine guns to, in recent years, long-barreled guns of 120- or 125-mm (4.72- or 4.92-inch) calibre."

Keep contorting yourself with autistic screeds and short novels about different tank classifications. Marder's and Bradley's are still tanks. But, I mean, keep arguing a moot point, I'm sure your copy/paste skills will see you through.

Also, assuming Marder's can actually make it off the delivery train without breaking down half-way off the ramp. And the Bradley's don't just spontaneously combust (see: American military brought to you by; the lowest defence contract bidder) Russia has already prepared for them. Their piecemeal deployment amongst an already ad-hoc Ukrainian army isn't going to impact anything.
 
> Fox News
> Radio Free Europe
> Foreign Policy

If only you posted a link to Voice of America, we would've had a glownigger propaganda full house. Now try again, with sources that aren't dripping with CIA cum.

I'm starting to suspect you may actually be genuine journoscum, if not a glownigger propagandist zogbot. Related to Taylor Lorentz, by any chance?
Well documented events are propaganda, oh okay.

Be honest here, any and every source isn't good enough for you. Everything is CIA propaganda and of course it's "The ZOG!"

Thanks for behaving exactly as described, Are you getting angry at people who point how people are "contracted" against the will including men who are doing their mandatory military service.

I think you browse /pol/ too much. Getting angry doesn't make those conscription letters and people in a Ukraine any less real.

For your sake I hope that you aren't russian, since you will get drafted like men during first mobilization wave.
 
Why do these Ukrainians have a picture of Wilfred Brimley on their wall?
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In the Soledar mines there is a little shrine to Alla Pugacheva Fled Russia and is currently residing in Israel.
More importantly, where's Brimley's mine shrine? As a long time Brimley enthusiast - I celebrate all of his albums - this deeply offends me.
 
Ah ok, thanks for telling me. I'm glad there was some sort of resolution to the missile in Poland, a friend of mine lives there and I was extremely scared when I heard what happened.
It was being championed as the thing which would finally bring NATO in to kick some vatnik ass, but then when the truth came out, it was memory-holed faster than Hunter Biden goes through a whole plate of lines
 
Guess no one told them the news about Soledar. Sorry bong bros.
The family of a British man missing in Ukraine say they are "very worried" about his health and whereabouts.
Chris Parry, 28, was last seen on Friday with Andrew Bagshaw, 48, heading to the town of Soledar, which has seen intense fighting in recent days.
The two men had been working as volunteers helping people evacuate from the frontline of the war.
Mr Parry's family and partner say he is an extraordinary person who is "compassionate and caring".
They added he "would not be dissuaded from his work in Ukraine liberating elderly and disabled people, which we are very proud of" and that they "all love him very much".
Mr Parry, originally from Truro in Cornwall but living in Cheltenham, had travelled to Ukraine last year to do humanitarian work after the Russian invasion.

He said he had a "drive to help" during an interview with BBC Cornwall from Ukraine over Christmas last year.
He also described the "continuous" bombardment, as well as recalling the time he had a drone "within about 10 metres of my face" while he was on the front line.
A missing person's report was filed for the two men from the police department in the city of Bakhmut in the Donetsk region at 17:15 local time on Saturday.
Ukrainian police said the men had been in Kramatorsk - where there have been reports of strikes in recent days - but were last seen heading to the small, eastern town of Soledar.
The UK's Ministry of Defence said on Tuesday that Russia was "likely" in control of most of Soledar following a months-long battle with Ukrainian forces.
Gaining control of Soledar would be Russia's biggest gain since last August if it is confirmed.

The capture would be significant as it would allow Russia to gain access to Soledar's deep, city-like network of salt mine tunnels, which have been dormant since April.
It would also allow Russian troops to get closer to the nearby larger city of Bakhmut, where Russian forces have been fighting for months to capture.
The family of Mr Bagshaw, who is also missing, described their son as "a very intelligent, independently minded person, who went there as a volunteer to assist the people of Ukraine".
In a statement issued to the media in New Zealand - where Mr Bagshaw lives - his parents described the work he has been doing as delivering food and medicines and helping elderly people move from "near the battlefront of the war".
The British Foreign Office is warning against all travel to Ukraine due to attacks on a number of different cities currently taking place, as the conflict continues into its 11th month.
It says there is a "real risk to life", adding that British nationals still in Ukraine should leave immediately.

Well documented events are propaganda, oh okay.

Be honest here, any and every source isn't good enough for you. Everything is CIA propaganda and of course it's "The ZOG!"

Thanks for behaving exactly as described, Are you getting angry at people who point how people are "contracted" against the will including men who are doing their mandatory military service.

I think you browse /pol/ too much. Getting angry doesn't make those conscription letters and people in a Ukraine any less real.

For your sake I hope that you aren't russian, since you will get drafted like men during first mobilization wave.
> posts a link to a .gov site from an enemy nation
> link is from April 2022
> link says absolutely nothing about the alleged super secret mobilization on Jan 15, 2023
> still no single shred of evidence of super secret mobilization letters that everyone got but no one is allowed to talk about
> canned misdirection tactics 101, the classic "muh /pol/" and "stop getting so angry bro"
> "journalist"

My conclusion? Either paid shill from a two-bit propaganda operation, probably something like Radio Free Europe, or a literal schizophrenic who gets mad because he doesn't understand why everyone else can't hear the same voices he hears in his head.
 
Not including the added perk of buck breaking russia and the likely economic returns on milking the corpse for everything it has in a way that makes the 90s look like the Marshall Plan

Also not including the domino effect of various russia dependent states in eurasia losing their main military backer and thus becoming far less willing and able to screw US interests over in their backyard.

Also not including chiyna permanently loosing its main meatshield/distraction for the west and thus making it more likely they will stop acting so obnoxiously retarded in the west's direction

I mean....twisting the knife in russia is literally the single most opportune geostrategic move imaginable for burgerland and the west, which makes it all the more absurd russia didnt even consider the possibility its adversaries would do so despite russia giving them literally every imaginable reason to do so for a goddamn century
Inshallah. Russian collapse may just be the thing the True Civilization needs.
 
"Hey guys The Vietnamese never marched on to D.C. so the US won the war in Vietnam!". That's how retarded you sound. How many telegram posts from total nobodies and LARPers does one have to read for Russia to achieve its military objectives?
North Vietnam was bombed to hell and back during Vietnam, every city and target of strategic or economic importance was hammered time and time again, to say nothing of the weight of the 500,000 US military personnel and a South Vietnam guaranteed by the full resources of the 1960s United States.

But in the end, we still lost.
 
North Vietnam was bombed to hell and back during Vietnam, every city and target of strategic or economic importance was hammered time and time again, to say nothing of the weight of the 500,000 US military personnel and a South Vietnam guaranteed by the full resources of the 1960s United States.

But in the end, we still lost.
Was South Vietnam known as good fighters, or was the US seen as doing most of the heavy lifting. I feel like this Ukraine conflict could go down the same path, even if there’s no Russian version of the Viet Cong.
 
Was South Vietnam known as good fighters, or was the US seen as doing most of the heavy lifting. I feel like this Ukraine conflict could go down the same path, even if there’s no Russian version of the Viet Cong.
The ARVN had a shitty record to say the least. Sometimes they did fight effectively but there was so much corruption in the South Vietnamese autocracy that their troops were led by total incompetents who achieved their positions through bribery and flattery of the ruling government.

However, without the Viet Cong partisans operating in South Vietnam the war would have been a lot easier to win. The NVA would never have been able to achieve the victories it did without so many collaborators in the South. If anything this war's Viet Cong are the Ukrainian partisans fighting in the occupied territories.
 
Perhaps you should take your own advice and learn how to read. I'll post it again and highlight the important parts for you.

"Tank, any heavily armed and armoured combat vehicle that moves on two endless metal chains called tracks. Tanks are essentially weapons platforms that make the weapons mounted in them more effective by their cross-country mobility and by the protection they provide for their crews. Weapons mounted in tanks have ranged from single rifle-calibre machine guns to, in recent years, long-barreled guns of 120- or 125-mm (4.72- or 4.92-inch) calibre."

Keep contorting yourself with autistic screeds and short novels about different tank classifications. Marder's and Bradley's are still tanks. But, I mean, keep arguing a moot point, I'm sure your copy/paste skills will see you through.

Also, assuming Marder's can actually make it off the delivery train without breaking down half-way off the ramp. And the Bradley's don't just spontaneously combust (see: American military brought to you by; the lowest defence contract bidder) Russia has already prepared for them. Their piecemeal deployment amongst an already ad-hoc Ukrainian army isn't going to impact anything.
Let me just sperg about the technicalities here, the Bradley is an APC (Armored Personel Carrier) which cannot be a tank, for it can carry troops internally. A tank cannot carry troops internally (aside from the Merkava, and even then it needs to empty almost all of its ammo rack). Neither is an SPG considered a tank.
All of these classifications do fall under ACVs (Armored Combat Vehicles). Now please stop sperging about whether the Bradley is a tank or not.

EDIT: Correction it's AFV not ACV
 
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Was South Vietnam known as good fighters, or was the US seen as doing most of the heavy lifting. I feel like this Ukraine conflict could go down the same path, even if there’s no Russian version of the Viet Cong.
As far as the current depiction of the Vietnamese conflict is, the ARVN might as well not exist in the eyes of the average person. Personally, I fully expect that once all this is over, Ukraine will just be treated like every other popular virtue signalling exercise of the past 20 years and be mainly remembered from all the silly social media shit that went on paired with all the merchandising that cheerleaders of this war bought.
 
Forced to sign contracts, so underfunded Russian military could send more cannon fodder to Ukraine, you meant this right?

Throwbacks to communist youth league and 4chan /pol/tards start to screech about zogbots and grasping at straws, never change please

I don't know about I see a pattern here, people denied that mobilization wouldn't happen, yet it did. Funny that.

I swear the desperate attempts to distract, stick to trivilaties remind of people in former communist party in former USSR.

Anti western sentiment, talking about unimportant and most petty shit. Some people never change.

I wouldn't hype for Russia with deals with Iran, Saudi Arabia, CCP and even fence sitting India

China is last superpower who supports crude with the price they set, just like India.

Situation in Syria would cut Russia with only harbor in the region.

I see more and more similarities with equally stable North Korea.

There are two scenarios out of this depends of what Putin plans to do

Russia will turn into global pariah if they deploy tactical nuclear weapons

Economic collapse which China will exploit shamelessly, Russia wouldn't be first dependent country with ICBMs

Dependent on Shiaite Muslims in Iran and Saudi Arabia, how ironic after soviet defeat in Afghanistan

I'd love to have soviet union worthless Ruble Boogaloo.
Mothers who claim their sons, who were already in the military mind you, were coerced into signing contracts for additional service, are not the same thing as videos of men being grabbed off the street by the Ukraninian version of the FSB (or the KGB since you still think the USSR is around, gramps) and forced into the military. The former is an allegation, the later is proof there is literal forced conscription, two very different things.
Well documented events are propaganda, oh okay.

Be honest here, any and every source isn't good enough for you. Everything is CIA propaganda and of course it's "The ZOG!"
You make a wild claim, then when asked for proof you post an irrelevant article sourced from biased sources that have nothing to do with your claim. classic forum sliding (yeah we all saw the same PP).
Thanks for behaving exactly as described, Are you getting angry at people who point how people are "contracted" against the will including men who are doing their mandatory military service.
There's no proof anyone was forced to sign a contract against their will (which by the way, put them in a better position than a conscript) other than some women saying their sons said so. Third hand claims are not the same as video of men being literally chased and snatched off the streets by Ukrainian government goons.


I think you browse /pol/ too much. Getting angry doesn't make those conscription letters and people in a Ukraine any less real.
Well, Ukraine as it pretends to be isn't real. It's mostly Russian oblasts and a part of Poland that were cobbled together by the USSR to make it easier to administer. This conflict was going to be a source of contention after independence and so US neocons (who understand this much better than you) leveraged it in an attempt to destabilize Russia. Actual Ukraine is a small province desperately pretending to be a country by attacking its Russian speaking population, that make up the majority (Russian and Ukrainian ethnics alike).

To any other glowies reading this: at least make sure gramps gets his meds if you're going to assign him to post here.
 
Personally, I fully expect that once all this is over, Ukraine will just be treated like every other popular virtue signalling exercise of the past 20 years and be mainly remembered from all the silly social media shit that went on paired with all the merchandising that cheerleaders of this war bought.
Considering Zelensky has gone full on “victory or death”, I think that depiction may depend on which side comes out on top.
 
Публикуем заявление Евгения Викторовича:
«Подразделения ЧВК «Вагнер» взяли под контроль всю территорию Соледара. В центре города образован котел, в котором ведутся городские бои. Количество пленных будет сообщено завтра.
Еще раз хочу подчеркнуть, что в штурме Соледара не участвовали никакие подразделения кроме бойцов ЧВК «Вагнер».
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We publish the statement of Evgeny Viktorovich: “The divisions of PMC Wagner took control of the entire territory of Soledar. A cauldron has been formed in the center of the city, in which urban battles are being fought. The number of prisoners will be announced tomorrow. Once again, I want to emphasize that no units other than the fighters of the Wagner PMC took part in the assault on Soledar.
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Salt mining (kek) has resumed in Soledar.
 
Considering Zelensky has gone full on “victory or death”, I think that depiction may depend on which side comes out on top.
Decades from the day that the guns went silent; it'll be remembered from some guy trying to sell a Zelensky Funko Pop for a 5 digit sum, faded T-shirts with the Ukrainian flag, and various books that nobody read or bought until they became pulp once again.
 
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