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Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once
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Lmao.
1. Use the reply function you cowardly fuck.
2. Just as I have no way of knowing 100% that Jeanette was uncomfortable with having a homo for a kid without a mind-reading machine, the same goes for your gay assertion. Only difference is, there is plenty of evidence and study behind my assertion (concerning the connection between desisted trans-identified people and homosexuality), while yours seems to be driven by personal experience with Jewish-American liberals. Based on the childhood videos of Jazz, I would lean towards the kid growing up to be gay. Could be wrong, we'll never know, but in general, it is not an uncommon narrative when it comes to kids trooning out/groomed towards trooning out by an overbearing mother. Also, multiple things can be true at once. Was Jeanette uncomfortable with a gay son, or was she attracted to those big dollar bills from the troon grift? ¿Por qué no los dos?
Sanders is obviously an autistic grifter and you think about him way too much. He's not gonna fuck you
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IICR, there were some studies about how childhood behavior could predict homosexuality. Not that all boys playing with dolls will be gay, but a gay man is more likely to have played with dolls when he was a boy.
So, if Jazz presented some real and natural behaviors that were more identifiable with the opposite sex, then there was a chance that he could have grown up to be homosexual. Not necessarily effeminate.
But as we've also said several times, all recollections of Jazz' childhood have gone through Jeanette's filter. Yes, it's impossible that a three years old Jazz would talk about gender in the way he allegedly did because children don't have that capacity at that age.
If he indeed felt more identified with Ari and Ari's toys than with his two brothers, then that could have been an indicator, specially if this was a natural behavior for Jazz. There is no way to know if he could have stopped or kept doing it.
So, if Jazz presented some real and natural behaviors that were more identifiable with the opposite sex, then there was a chance that he could have grown up to be homosexual. Not necessarily effeminate.
But as we've also said several times, all recollections of Jazz' childhood have gone through Jeanette's filter. Yes, it's impossible that a three years old Jazz would talk about gender in the way he allegedly did because children don't have that capacity at that age.
If he indeed felt more identified with Ari and Ari's toys than with his two brothers, then that could have been an indicator, specially if this was a natural behavior for Jazz. There is no way to know if he could have stopped or kept doing it.
If "fame" were Jeanette's ONLY motive, why didn't she trans out her first three kids??? She let a lot of talk show appearances slip through her fingers there... That was her SECONDARY motivation; the primary, and what put the whole thing in her head in the first place (it obviously wasn't there before) was *someone else* convincing her that she had to trans Jazz out just to save his life. That wasn't HER brainchild... But she loved it once it got underway!
That someone was Cousin Debbie, per her own words in her own dissertation... Like it or not...
It was just like Dr. Money and David Reimer all over again. There was a Ph.D. candidate just waiting like a spider for the perfect test case to come along at just the right time to bolster the theory (and comprise the dissertation); along came Jazz. I'm sure ALL the "experts" involved here were salivating at a chance to follow the first baby trans and hitch their wagons to that particular star, including the two surgeons.
That someone was Cousin Debbie, per her own words in her own dissertation... Like it or not...
It was just like Dr. Money and David Reimer all over again. There was a Ph.D. candidate just waiting like a spider for the perfect test case to come along at just the right time to bolster the theory (and comprise the dissertation); along came Jazz. I'm sure ALL the "experts" involved here were salivating at a chance to follow the first baby trans and hitch their wagons to that particular star, including the two surgeons.
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Hearing it laid out like that as cold hard truth really hits you with the depth of the horror that has been inflicted upon that kid.
Jazz never had a say in the matter, he was railroaded, indoctrinated, and MKULTRA'd into this abomination and any doubts he had ignored and brushed aside. His parents (especially his Mom, Dee Snyder looking fucker she is) should be locked up for child abuse.
All the suffering and psychological damage, its no wonder he's a cringy weirdo that comfort eats, seriously, imagine having your own mother, and the people you are totally dependent on for your welfare, completely betray you and decide you needed castrating when you were a toddler, and having your shame and mutilation paraded on TV in a Freakshow PT Barnum would have thought was going too far, including your Moms creepy obsession with making sure you keep dilating your agonizing stinkditch to make sure some creepy chaser will be able to fuck you at some point.
The cities of Sodom and Gommorah were glassed for less than this shit.
Cows like Jazz and Desmond are the saddest, one condemned to becoming a eunuch and denied all privacy, and the other pimped out to pedophiles and murderers like Allig to drool over while they were still just children by mothers that are fame hungry whores.
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I don’t think she just woke up one morning and consciously thought “I am going to destroy my child for fame and fortune(?)”. That’s a relatively rare level of explicit cynicism. I expect if Jeanette had Jazz at different points in time, he’d be an indigo child, or vaccine damaged, or have some faddish developmental disorder like ADD. There’s a lot of middle ground between “sincerely doing what you think is best for your child” and “deliberate, premeditated child-sacrifice so I can get a Barbara Walters interview.”
What I expect happened was Jeanette had a daughter. Everyone in her life gives her attention because new mother. Then she has twin boys. Even more attention, because twins are special. Then she has Jazz. I’m sure her friends and family still celebrated and treated her special, but it’d be a lot more muted in comparison to her previous pregnancies, because, well, she’s done this twice. Jeanette clearly likes the spotlight, so this, maybe on a level below her own notice, bothers her. Then Jazz starts doing some relatively odd things. Jeanette is a deeply small minded woman, so Jazz playing with the wrong toys or stumbling about in her heels strikes her as concerning. She does some looking, stumbles upon or is introduced to the trans thing, and latches onto it as an explanation. Suddenly, Jazz is getting her a lot more attention. People are praising her for being such a good, brave mother. Just as importantly, she gains antagonists in the form of people who don’t agree that Jazz is a girl in a boy body. She has a cause. Something exciting with high stakes. She’s not just an ageing mother putting in the hard, but unremarkable in maintaining a family like millions of other parents around the world, she’s a warrior-mum fighting for her special daughter. She’s the kind of mother people write books or make movies about.
To be clear, none of this is meant to excuse Jeanette. A smarter, more level-headed woman wouldn’t fall into this hole. I just find it a lot more likely than a conscious conspiracy by her or Cousin Debbie.
It's all three together. Jazz's early behavior, Debbie's "expertise," and Jeanette's innate narcissism. Life is complicated; nothing is ever just one thing. In this case, it was the perfect storm. To throw out one of the contributing factors is to paint an incomplete picture that doesn't make sense. Combined, it does.
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Debbie was the trigger, but the behavior was already there.
Mothers claiming their kids are special is too much of a common factor among women to simply disregard it as a mere manipulation by a doctor. You have troons now, but before it was autism, gluten allergy, indigo kids, ADHD, beauty pageants, special talents, even healing powers. It's either a cope to justify poor parenting or the need for the mother to live through their kids being special. Some parents are told that their kids have any disease and they try to make them live the most normal lives possible; others make the oddity their whole identity, and by "their" I meant the mothers, not the kids.
Now, you are right about Debbie too. She was waiting for the chance and if it wasn't Jeanette's child, it could have been any other kid who just happened to enjoy playing with the other sex's toys. I am sure she twisted and manipulated a situation to make it into her area of expertise and she was ready to do it to any kid she "suspected" could be used as a lab rat. The thing is that, statistically, abusers are often relatives or family friends. I'm sure all the gender therapists like Debbie experiment as well with children who are in their proximity: their own kids, nephews, nieces, etc. In there case, it's because the families are more likely to ask them precisely because their families.
Just to offer a personal experience. Someone close to me has sent her kid to therapy because he's too aggressive in school. He's eight years old, of course he is. How she got to this conclusion? Her words: "I asked my sister in law, who knows a lot about these things because she reads a lot of it online and she recommended me a therapist who can help him". Women do this to their kids in the same way they do it to grown men: "I need you to fix him for me."
That's exactly how it happened per Debbie's own dissertation. Jeanette mentioned it to Debbie (a sex therapist with an interest in trans at the time) at a family bar-b-q, and the two of them were off and running, each for their own selfish gains. Jazz's long-time therapist, the weirdo lady who wears the tiny fedora indoors, was one of Debbie's professors and signed off on the dissertation, so there was obviously "three degrees of separation" there.
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This is a common refrain from single mothers. And when you ask, "Are you a single mother?", they get really mad.
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In this case, she's not, but both parents work all day.
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Wasn't there a screenshot going around of Jeanette's alumni newsletter where they mentioned something weird about Ari before Jazz was even born?
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They just misspelled her name.
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It was Debbie and Jeanette. And let’s not forget Jazz’s father who totally failed him by not going “The fuck you are!”
As for Jazz “acting gay” he got trooned out at 4-5! So the poor boy never had a chance,
(He might have been a quiet, less burly boy, probably into handicrafts and animals. And trying to get momma’s attention by saying things like: “I want to be like you mommy!” Little did he know he ruined his life by idolizing his parent.)
It was interesting to see Jeanette adamant that Jazz’s surgery HAD NOTHING to do with his mental health problems, since they preceded the surgery.
5 Years old: Jazz starts getting trooned out.
11 Years old: Jazz is put on puberty blockers.
12 Years old: Mental problems start, is put on psych drugs.
18 Years old: SRS after years of cross sex hormones.
20 Years old: Has to stop college, mental health crisis. Severe anxiety, sleeps 12 hours a day. Balloons up to 240lb.
Hmm… Yeah… I’m sure the surgery had NOTHING to do with Jazz low functioning and psychiatric issues.
As for Jazz “acting gay” he got trooned out at 4-5! So the poor boy never had a chance,
(He might have been a quiet, less burly boy, probably into handicrafts and animals. And trying to get momma’s attention by saying things like: “I want to be like you mommy!” Little did he know he ruined his life by idolizing his parent.)
It was interesting to see Jeanette adamant that Jazz’s surgery HAD NOTHING to do with his mental health problems, since they preceded the surgery.
5 Years old: Jazz starts getting trooned out.
11 Years old: Jazz is put on puberty blockers.
12 Years old: Mental problems start, is put on psych drugs.
18 Years old: SRS after years of cross sex hormones.
20 Years old: Has to stop college, mental health crisis. Severe anxiety, sleeps 12 hours a day. Balloons up to 240lb.
Hmm… Yeah… I’m sure the surgery had NOTHING to do with Jazz low functioning and psychiatric issues.
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No, it referred to Ari as Jeannette's son.
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Btw: Do we know what drugs she takes?
Jeanette said something about “Every morning Jazz takes 8 pills and every night she takes 9 pills, and those are her lifeline.”
Estrogen is one or two pills, diabetes is one. So what are the rest?!
SEVENTEEN PILLS A DAY, holy shit!
Jeanette said something about “Every morning Jazz takes 8 pills and every night she takes 9 pills, and those are her lifeline.”
Estrogen is one or two pills, diabetes is one. So what are the rest?!
SEVENTEEN PILLS A DAY, holy shit!
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Just speculating about what could be going on, since I'm obviously not treating Jazz as a patient, but I suspect he might be on blood pressure meds. In season 7 when plans are made to relocate Jazz to Harvard, Jeannette confesses to her fears of Jazz' heart giving out if he doesn't remember to take his medicine. Unless it's even worse and he's already showing symptoms of congestive heart failure, that is, but I'm going to be
for now.
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Also, remember that "Jeanette asked Debbie (or whoever) because she had doubts about Jazz" is the official story, but we might never know if it's the real story.
If you ask me, there is a chance -albeit small- that Debbie was fishing around for any kid who could be "gender not conforming" to plant the idea in the parents' minds, in this case, Jeanette. All she had to say is "hey, in college, we're studying about how certain kids are born different, mind you if I talk with yours and see if everything's ok?" When the case became bigger, she could have asked Jeanette to say that the idea came from her instead.
We truly might never know.
If you ask me, there is a chance -albeit small- that Debbie was fishing around for any kid who could be "gender not conforming" to plant the idea in the parents' minds, in this case, Jeanette. All she had to say is "hey, in college, we're studying about how certain kids are born different, mind you if I talk with yours and see if everything's ok?" When the case became bigger, she could have asked Jeanette to say that the idea came from her instead.
We truly might never know.
That seems like an honest mistake. Ariel is a male name.
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Yeah blood pressure meds are probably a given.Just speculating about what could be going on, since I'm obviously not treating Jazz as a patient, but I suspect he might be on blood pressure meds. In season when plans are made to relocate Jazz to Harvard, 7 Jeannette confesses to her fears of Jazz' heart giving out if he doesn't remember to take his medicine. Unless it's even worse and he's already showing symptoms of congestive heart failure, that is, but I'm going to be
I suspect a lot of psych drugs, and not just your usual SSRI.
It would line up nicely with the weight gain as well as the 12 hour nightly sleep and “Jazz being a heavy sleeper” who can’t get up by herself.
(I was blown away when Jazz said that there are “12 hours in a day where you’re not asleep” as if it’s the most natural thing in the world that you do shit for 12 hours and then sleep for 12.)
Also a little curious if they’re doing the good ol’ upper and downer combo with Jazz, where she gets some kind of amphetamine (“ADHD drug”) to counteract the effects of all the depressants.
Probably not given her weight and circulation issues, but who knows.
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I don't know what the real story is about Jazz, because I don't trust any of these people as far as I can throw them when they offer their narratives. Imo homo attraction is one thing (that's why animals will suck each other's dicks or whatever) but being intractably "gay" is just as much of a culture-bound illness as being a troon.
The other version, most often seen in idiot liberal boomers, goes more like this: "Being gay is going to ruin my kids life because he's going to end up struggling. He'll be seen as a pervert or someone who chose it, he won't be taken seriously in his marriage, etc. If he's trans though, people will understand that's a serious medical condition. They won't think he's a deviant or pick on him. And he'll be able to marry a nice man and have a normal life."
Now obviously that's dumb to think and it doesn't work that way (troons are even crazier and don't pass, etc), but that's what boomers were taught. That's what everybody was taught up until 5 minutes ago. Maybe you faggots think "hey, that's all 'homophobic' too!" or whatever, and maybe you're right. But it isn't always as cut and dried as "his mom decided gay is gross and hated him so much she wanted to chop his DICK off!!!" Like most idiots who mutilate their kids, they actually think they're doing a good job. Plus, they get special attention and ass-pats, too. Even a whole TV show.
God, just bring us another flood, tbh