Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Mista House]

The west is not ready for a Russian implosion, where multiple republics declare independence from Moscow

The west is hoping that the Russian federation keeps intact, but with a more soft ruler

That or someone in the military siezes power because of how the war played out.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Or it's a bloody civil war as the Federation collapses.

And before some Ukiebro simps say this would be a great time to intervene, remember that Russia has the world's biggest nuclear arsenal, and in the event of a civil war it is highly likely that no one person will have complete control over it.

Meaning it takes one warlord or submarine captain to get pissed over a Western "intervention" in Russia during such a period, and suddenly Western Europe/the Mainland USA will be glowing in the dark.

 

[Fait Accompli]

And before some Ukiebro simps say this would be a great time to intervene, remember that Russia has the world's biggest nuclear arsenal, and in the event of a civil war it is highly likely that no one person will have complete control over it.

Meaning it takes one warlord or submarine captain to get pissed over a Western "intervention" in Russia during such a period, and suddenly Western Europe/the Mainland USA will be glowing in the dark.

Whether you're a simp for Ukie or Russia, an implosion of Russia is very dangerous due to their nuclear arsenal. In a dream scenario, id love to see Russia implode and give their republics independance from Moscow. But realistically, it would be best for the west that russia withdraws from Ukraine, make a few deals and are allowed to keep their federation stable.

If the west could choose, its much better to choose a Russian federation that controls much of Ukraine rather than an implosion. This is the largest problem in this conflict

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

why won't Ukraine just say fuck it and let Russia have what it claims is theirs. After the peace talk, they can rebuild instead of this bullshit after 1 year. What the fuck is this.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I genuinely wonder if the west is prepared for Putin losing. If you follow Adam Curtis he has some really good insight on Putin and his inner circle. He was in Russia during the end of the USSR and the rise of Putin. He has links with many journalists across Russia. Putin came into power to ensure the Oligarchs maintained power over the country and that the balance of power between them was maintained. After that it was holding Russia together.

Lets say Putin loses, what do people think will happen, all the Russian people will suddenly peacefully march on the Kremlin? Theyll sing Kum-bayah while Putin steps down? No. Putin will either anhero or be anherod by someone even more hardline than him. Or it's a bloody civil war as the Federation collapses.

Glad to see more people watch Curtis.
A potential Putin demise will be extremely dangerous. Everyone that's in his circle is more extreme and rabidly anti-peace and pro empire.
A disillusioned army that no longer has a purpose after being fed dreams of glory, with a Wagner PMC that is still a thing, is quite the best to deal with.

If the west could choose, its much better to choose a Russian federation that controls much of Ukraine rather than an implosion. This is the largest problem in this conflict

Yeah that's hopefully not going to be the choice that has to be made any time soon.
Plenty of glowie Western stuff around to smell for potential coups and start preparing.

 

[Mav52ri]

lol, now even Zelenski's propaganda mouth pieces are claiming the reports about Russia is running out of missiles™ since march was fake and gay (maybe thats why the west is supporting it so hard):

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• Western claims that Russia is running out of advanced, high-precision missiles have floated in the news since March. But more than 10 months into the all-out war, Russian missiles continue to rain down on Ukrainian cities.

• ...no one outside Russia has indisputable numbers on its stockpiles and production rates

• Ukraine’s most detailed claim about Russia’s missile situation came in a chart tweeted by Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov on Nov. 22, purporting to show the difference in Russia’s arsenal between Feb. 23, before the full-scale invasion, and Nov. 18.

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• Reznikov’s chart quickly became out of date as Russia launched hundreds of missiles at Ukraine throughout December.

Also, according to ukranian intelligence, it looks like they are about to get cucked on challenger tanks on monday, but knowing their record on predictions (from depleted missiles and 7 day away mobilizations), Im not holding my breath

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Fucking only 10? That's barely gonna make a dent at all, and I'm guessing they're gonna just be ones without any fancy upgrades like the Black Knights. Why even send them? Why give the Russians the chance to blow them up and then gain valuable knowledge on their design, no wonder the government keeps downsizing the army with the high-command being this stupid.

 

[Cloacan]

Western bias in South African media threatens press freedom

Coverage of the war in Ukraine shows shows Western views are perpetuated in the media, without balance and an alternative perspective

mg.co.za

Western bias in South African media threatens press freedom​

In my latest research paper New features of media imperialism: The South African online media and the coverage of the Ukrainian war, where I employed content analysis to examine the coverage of the war by five of South Africa’s biggest online news publications (News24, IOL, TimesLive, Citizen.co.za and BusinessTech) between January and February 2022, media bias is palpable. By relying on Western sources, this media invariably exports Western norms, standards, hegemonic narrative and worldview. This finding can be extended to the broader South African news media.

This is a better read that I expected.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It will take over 6 momths to train them to NATO tank crew standards. Even then, 10 isn't going to do a danf thing.

Its taken Russia an entire YEAR and 100,000+ dead to advance 40 kilometers into the Donbass. 6 months is not the issue you think it is.

 

[Butterschmalz]

why won't Ukraine just say fuck it and let Russia have what it claims is theirs. After the peace talk, they can rebuild instead of this bullshit after 1 year. What the fuck is this.

Thats not how it works bro. Once the shit starts rolling there is no going back. Till the bitter end. You can either participate or get the fuck out of the way. There will be many more funny movies like 2 balls & 1 utility knife. Enjoy!

 

[🇷🇺Fuck Ukraine🇷🇺]

I believe it was. I dont think that Russia wanted to annex the entirety of Ukraine.

I believe that their mission was to flex their muscles, annex territories close to the " Novorussia " idea, and demilitarizie and subject the rest of Ukraine, just like Belarus.
The invasion gives signs of this, a paratrooper attack on a Kiev airport, which was thwarted. Then the long convoy, special operators fighting in Kyiv. I think that Putin counted on that most of the Ukraine military would collapse in a shock and awe attack, then dispose the government and force a peace deal that benefited Russia.

I was and am against the invasion or Iraq, whether they knew it or not, the WMD was an easy excuse to invade. The difference is that a historical rival of the western system invaded a European nations, this couldnt just stand. The west had to react, just giving up would have been disastrous.

I hope that all serious debators see the " denazification " and " protection of the donbass people " is just a lame excuse for their conquering and geopolitical war.

I see what you're saying and am grateful that you can put forward a point without resorting to slap fighting.

I agree that Russia wanted this over fast with shock and awe, I don't think they were planning a taking of the capital.

I can also see (although severely disagree) the premise that de-nazification and protection were excuses to take action.

I can also agree that Russia took action due to geopolitical pressure, not for conquest though. I believe they took action because of a collective of nations creeping closer and closer under the false pretense of "help". All the while their actions and agreement breaking showed showed the opposite and with a predatory intent.

Its also extremely hypocritical of western nations to ridicule Russia for taking this kind of action. Western nations have, at multiple times in history, acted without remit to pre-emptively "protect" themselves.

They are, by all means, welcome to help and arm the UKR but the west shouldn't pretend like they are any better than the Russians considering the US, EU and UK and their actions and recognition of Kosovo.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

You have to strawman about this, as though I'm ignorant of the fact that color revolutions can't get off the ground without a critical mass of popular support. If there were a Chinese-backed or Russian-backed revolution in the USA, they couldn't do it without finding a critical mass of people to enable.

The problem with revolutions, though, is they never have universal support. Much like the USA had no trouble finding (and funding, and arming) people who didn't like Yanukovych, turns out Russia found quite a few people who didn't care for Poroshenko or Zelensky.

The biggest issue is simply that Ukraine, since the fall of the USSR has been divided into three parts along political lines, and it's along these lines that the country imploded. Crimea was looking for independence and closer relationships with Russia since 1991, with several referendums and an independence based govt which was crushed by Kiev, so the next best thing for them was to side with and vote for Russian-leaning candidates, and then the East/West political divide which is clear to see from any voting map except the 2019 election.
The outcome of Ukranian presidential elections has always been won through thin margins too, and followed a tug-of-war swining from 'West leaning' to 'Russian-leaning' and back again.
2014 was fucking shambles. Granted yanukovych was no angel, but if he was looking out for the interest of his country, he was right not to sign the EU based deal that was handed to him; it was absolute dogshit and included plenty of IMF austerity. Russia was offering a much better deal, essentially buying Ukraine's support. But being butthurt over losing their paypig, the Western side decided to stoke divide and revolution rather than offer a better deal. It was an absolute disgrace to see McCain and Nuland on Maidan, and coaching the revolutionary body on what to do and how to go about things. yanko would have been out in less than a year anyway since elections were coming up.
Oh well, this whole thing seems to have turned into 'well if we can't have it, you can't either!' and Ukraine is fucked for a generation. Crimea has done the best out of this though, and finally got the seperation from Kiev that they wanted for decades.

Anyhoo, last page has been interesting to read and nice to see some discussion.

I thought it was more of the towel head niggers from Pakistan? London is predominantly muslim now, also they infest most of the country even in the fucking shithole sump of the north east england.

They are all the same people, from the same country. Pakistan was only formed as a big 'fuck-you' to the region by the British as they left. They both bought up anything they could, and both set-up child grooming gangs which the UK police were too scared to deal with incase they were seen as racist. Khan is a Paki, Sunak Indian...potato patato

 

[Vesperus]

why won't Ukraine just say fuck it and let Russia have what it claims is theirs. After the peace talk, they can rebuild instead of this bullshit after 1 year. What the fuck is this.

Because this war isn't about freedom, democracy, or man's fundamental right to self-governance.

It's about shoveling billions of dollars from one black hole into another, and taking a cut from the people taking a cut.

Some people may die or become bankrupt, but that's a sacrifice the important people are willing to make.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

Another Vid from this dude dropped. Good Analysis as usual

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

The Germans did this exact stunt in 1915 after the Schlieffen Plan sputtered out, withdrawals to better defensive ground, straightening the lines out, sorting logistics. Its shit "unsexy" work but its the most important thing that can be done. Once it was done I think everyone has noticed a massive uptick in Ukrainian casualties and a sharp reduction in Russian casualties.

This, of course, changing the entire course of WWI, guaranteeing victory for Germany.

 

[boofit]

everything is a globohomo conspiracy

You are living Weimar Germany and it's not even a conspiracy. Globohomo is deflection and a consequence of, meaning this. Ya can't say certain things out loud or else.

 

[mindlessobserver]

You are living Weimar Germany and it's not even a conspiracy. Globohomo is deflection and a consequence of, meaning this. Ya can't say certain things out loud or else.

People keep bringing this up. As if western decadence is the issue here and not the fact that Russia's colonial Empire is falling apart in the real time and the Russo-Ukrainian war is simply a conflict delayed from the collapse of the Tsarist Empire.

The center cannot hold.

 

[boofit]

western decadence

Over the target, Hasbara to the rescue.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

People keep bringing this up. As if western decadence is the issue here and not the fact that Russia's colonial Empire is falling apart in the real time and the Russo-Ukrainian war is simply a conflict delayed from the collapse of the Tsarist Empire.

The center cannot hold.

I mean, a lot of issues led to this conflict. I don't quite think Child Molestation is the cause of war in Ukraine, so, maybe Weimar Germany is a bad example, but foreign wars are bread and butter for both the West and the East. Unless this ends the worst possible way, I don't really see either Russia or US collapsing, unless something like China intervenes. I mean, NATO did say they want Ukraine 2 in the form of Taiwan, and, hey, maybe China wouldn't mind one too. Or maybe I'm just retarded. Either one could be true.

 

[White_N]

I think many of you have heard about the explosion of a residential building in Dnipro with many wounded civilians, including children. a terrible event, everyone hastened to call Russia inhumans, monsters, etc. There is only one problem: a rocket hit a residential building due to the fact that it was hit by Ukrainian air defense. Lucy mentioned this.

also have some cute critters

 

[Fatniggo1488]

People keep bringing this up. As if western decadence is the issue here and not the fact that Russia's colonial Empire is falling apart in the real time and the Russo-Ukrainian war is simply a conflict delayed from the collapse of the Tsarist Empire.

The center cannot hold.

>As if western decadence is the issue here
How is western decadence not the issue here? How many people do you think, here on the farms, supports Russia for any reason outside of western decadence?