Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[AgendaPoster]

This is my big concern too. The leadership in DC wont be able to accept any kind of loss as they can't handle it psychologically.

Retreating from Afghanistan and Iraq? Vietnam?
Some losses in shithole Middle Eastern countries are far more easy to deal with compared with losing geopolitical influence inside Europe and having your inaction generate another Iron Curtain. Of course this conflict is way more important, even though for the normieMurican it seems the same. Your elites might be corrupt, but they're not retarded. They know the Empire is decrepit and needs to be kept together or these events will result in its terminal decay during our lifetime.
That might require a risky show of force, yeah.

 

[TrulyMan]

Na when they eventually have to get rid of that kike comedian for his egomania they will replace him with Zaluzhny just like they did in Korea with Park Chung-hee and in Vietnam with Nguyễn Văn Thiệu. Egomaniac to military dictator is a long established pattern of America colonizing another nation's government.

What do you know about Zaluzhny? I really dont know anything, what knd of guy s he?

 

[Meh123]

I'm betting on David, the second Israel and all that

Didn't Z-man explicitly said he wants to make UK "israel" or something like that?

 

[Makhno]

What do you know about Zaluzhny? I really dont know anything, what knd of guy s he?

he is a coomer pervert who pisses money away on stupid whores who all look like the same cookie cutter plastic bimbo; just as greedy and corrupt as Zelensky but much more discreet and not an attention whore who wants to see his face everywhere. Also unlike Zelensky who is a moronic puppet with a hand up his ass to make his mouth move Zaluzhny is at least semi competent as a general and able to be trusted without constant handlers present to do his job.

 

[Meh123]

when zelensky gets killed by the cia/fanatics

AMEN bruh..

 

[TJT]

Kot lover speaks the truth the only way Ukraine can win is with direct NATO involvement at this point which sadly is a possibility given emotionally hysterical women and men who never grow up form a large portion of the western population. I also worry the extent to which our ruling class will go to avoid bruising their fragile egos and admitting the age of the unipolar financial world order of international capital is over and nation states are returning. The ivy educated elite in the west have the general maturity of spoiled children who have never been told no and live in a world of escapist delusion. Since those faggots aren't the ones fighting and they already hate the native working class of their nations I honestly don't see anything that holds these people back from WW3 short of Putin actually launching a warning shot low yield nuclear weapon when NATO troops eventually enter from the west or funding some sort of campaign of assassination on Davos attendees.

As much as I agree with a lot of this I think (rather, I desperately hope) that some of the saner minds in our leadership urge more caution. Pretty much any military mind you read from the past decade will tell you that the mere existence of the Russian Mach 7+ missiles changes the entire game dramatically.

I won't get too into it but up until 2015 or so every single war game, theory, military plan, etc about the Cold War all operated under the assumption that the Soviets or Russia today would have a hard or impossible time reaching Central Europe. This meant that NATO planners could amass resources, troops, and everything safely in Central Europe to prepare for a major offensive and regroup should war ever break out.

Today that is not a given as the Kinzhal or whatever it's called goes Mach 9 and travels low to the ground. There exists no defense against it in any reliable way other than "we hope it misses and its shitty Russian technology so it will probably break down midflight."

This is a long way of saying that the second we begin actually amassing resources to move into Ukraine Russia will certainly notice. To put this in perspective it took Russia six months to move everything into position for the invasion last year. It took the US 8 months of staging before we were ready to move into Iraq in 2003.

But that won't happen this time. Russia has publicly stated they would answers such a response and while NATO can arm Ukraine it does not have the troop numbers necessary on the East European plains where it matters at the moment.

 

[Glowie]

Please explain how Russian ships sailing from Crimea to Italy or Spain or France must pass by Germany, Austria and the Netherlands.

NATO controls Danube-maine-Rhine straight if Russia attempted to use this canal

Like I said before if Russia lost control of Russian leased port in Tartus, Russia would have to cross NATO territory of Greece, Italy, Spain and go through UK waters all the way to Baltics through more EU and NATO territory.
Tartus is only Russian friendly port near black sea

I don't know about you I wouldn't fancy Russian chances in case of full on conflict or ability to rearm if Tartus is lost during current Syrian invasion started by turkey and rebels in Idlib.

There you go Russian is outgunned and underequipped in Mediterranean and black sea if shit hits the fan.

 

[TrulyMan]

As mtuch as I agree with a lot of this I think (rather, I desperately hope) that some of the saner minds in our leadership urge more caution. Pretty much any military mind you read from the past decade will tell you that the mere existence of the Russian Mach 7+ missiles changes the entire game dramatically.

I won't get too into it but up until 2015 or so every single war game, theory, military plan, etc about the Cold War all operated under the assumption that the Soviets or Russia today would have a hard or impossible time reaching Central Europe. This meant that NATO planners could amass resources, troops, and everything safely in Central Europe to prepare for a major offensive and regroup should war ever break out.

Today that is not a given as the Kinzhal or whatever it's called goes Mach 9 and travels low to the ground. There exists no defense against it in any reliable way other than "we hope it misses and its shitty Russian technology so it will probably break down midflight."

This is a long way of saying that the second we begin actually amassing resources to move into Ukraine Russia will certainly notice. To put this in perspective it took Russia six months to move everything into position for the invasion last year. It took the US 8 months of staging before we were ready to move into Iraq in 2003.

But that won't happen this time. Russia has publicly stated they would answers such a response and while NATO can arm Ukraine it does not have the troop numbers necessary on the East European plains where it matters at the moment.

Edit: Apparently even with a total nuclear exchange of 4400 Warheads, resulting in 150 atmospheric (tg) soot almost Kiwi's would likely survive 2 years post conflict. Almost everyone else are dead except some ozzies and some people in Latin America.

 

[TJT]

I am operating on the principle that the conflict stays conventional.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

It's from a megashitlib university lol, I knew you nerds would bite hard lol

The bit about valuing time was a huge shitstorm a year or two ago. I guess they forgot?

Schedules and goals are racist lol

 

[Meh123]

I am operating on the principle that the conflict stays conventional.

The alternative is Fallout / other post-apocalyptic scenarios. I don't think we need to concern about non-conventional warfare, for one reason or for the other.

 

[Makhno]

saner minds in our leadership

ROFL our leadership thinks men and women are interchangeable and that the jews are the greatest allies of western civilization

 

[Feline Supremacist]

In Odessa, men wear women's clothes so that they can go to the grocery store but avoid receiving military summons.

 

[TrulyMan]

I am operating on the principle that the conflict stays conventional.

Those mach 7 Cruise missiles arent made for conventional war.

 

[Zryachy]

Bradleys sighted somewhere in Poland.
Don't expect them to be game changers tho.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Bradleys sighted somewhere in Poland.
Don't expect them to be game changers tho.
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But I heard from a reputable source that those Bradleys will spearhead an offensive to Sevastopol itself.

People on the internet wouldn't just make shit up, right?

 

[Atomic Ant]

The offensive west of unimportant nothingburger Soledar continues as contingent after contingent of Z are swatted like flies on the killing fields of Copesylvania Blahodatne. Although trillions of Russians have perished in their futility, Ukraine may yet fail to hold the pivotal wet ground as Russia's January 15th mobilization reinforcements arrive at the front lines.

 

[Zryachy]

But I heard from a reputable source that those Bradleys will spearhead an offensive to Sevastopol itself.

People on the internet wouldn't just make shit up, right?

In amount of 300? Or was it Challengers?

Be real, Bradleys are not fit for peer-v-peer combat.

People on the internet wouldn't just make shit up, right?

Right.

Fresh stock of "Cargo200" as Russians call it.
Dead UA soldiers coming back home, in comfy coffins.

 

[TJT]

Those mach 7 Cruise missiles arent made for conventional war.

I actually don't want a nuclear armageddon in my lifetime if that's so hard to believe.

 

[nukelol]

Ukraine is dead as a nation. Over half of its population has fled. The US is paying for the government, its literally the 51st state. The military is collapsing and is grabbing men off the streets.

Russia is going for the Russian parts of Ukraine, and an offensive is imminent. The Russian Army will likely strike from the direction of Chernigov-Kiev, Sumy, Kharkov (to encircle it) and Zaporozhye, thus breaking the AFU positions near Donbass. Belarus will be part of the action.

The tempo could be rapid and surely will be in the opening stages of operation but the objective isn't to do a blitzkrieg and roll over the AFU, pushing back the enemy and controlling the ground by any means necessary, it is to increase the kill count of Ukrainian troops and make it impossible for them to sustain those losses. This will force them to fight in different and unprepared areas like Kiev and Lvov. The goal is to split Ukrainian forces and make it impossible for Ukraine to keep a core army or reserve units.

This will literally end the possibility of Ukrainians to fight back and launch offensives and also eliminates the possibility Ukrainian would be able to fight as an organized force, thus causing them lose the possibility of launching any future initiatives. It will lead to inability of Western support except for direct intervention. This will change the course of the war because there would be never be enough resources to send to the front, making it impossible to concentrate troops or use them in an organized fashion.

Officially, Russia may declare war. So the chickenhawks here may finally get the chance to do their duty and ensure Aisha and Tyrone flood into what's left of the Saloreich.

thats just one of those eternal truths.
russia big.