Microsoft is fucking butthurt no one wants Windows 11 so they're stopping the sale of Windows 10 licenses this month

[Slav Power]

Funny, I never paid for Windows.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

My laptop has given me a decade of use, still uses Windows 7, and now I'm scared what will happen next. This sounds even worse than Windows 10. Halp.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

Microsoft also sells a product called Azure HCI which I think is intended to be an on-premises middleman between your local infrastructure and Azure? Everything I can find about Azure HCI is so full of marketing buzzwords I can't actually tell what Azure HCI is used for.

It's absolutely impenetrable without having first read a glossary of terms. Basically "hyperconverged" is an industry buzzword for VM hosts that have storage, networking and a hypervisor bundled as a complete package when you purchase them. e.g. Dell sells this thing called VxRail which is a pimped out R740xd pre-configured with licensed ESXi, vCenter and a bunch of storage for vSAN. (No need for a separate SAN and a two-host cluster can be directly connected to each other so you don't even need a 10G switch)

It's a pretty compelling offering for businesses that are just too retarded to design shit themselves and the Azure version of this is basically "Hey, you can't avoid running shit on-prem but you don't want to manage it yourself as you're all stupid fucks. So why don't you buy the hardware from us and use the Azure UI to do everything?" I think there are multiple versions of these HCI appliances for different workloads as I did get to trial one once and it was a pretty standard PE R640 with a very mysterious ASIC installed in it for some magic "big data" shit.

I think they wanna do that. But I don't think it will actually happen. Its all dependent on internet access. What happens if some idiot cuts the demark cable for an entire building? I guess the company loses money. Sorry employees, go home. And even though companies like Dell and Lenovo would love to sell a cheap product at markup, they do depend business through support and repeated sales

Thin clients already exist and I've worked in places where the majority of staff are on thin clients. I've also worked in places where thin clients were the norm but they got removed and other places where they were strongly considering it. As with anything, there are pros and cons but also big price tags associated. The biggest benefit I've seen from thin clients is that when a VDI guest inevitably shits the bed, you can just blow it away and the user gets a new guest that's functioning. Users can also easily hot desk with a roaming profile and since the thin client is just a little Linux machine, it boots up insanely fast and it gets its config from a central server.

The cons however are immense:
* Your hardware replacement cycle is now a giant farm of servers that'll probably cost 100s of thousands to replace in the future. Bean counters will neglect it and your users will suffer.
* The networking upgrades required are significant. I've seen sites with maybe 50 staff getting 250 Mbps MPLS links and that shit is so expensive it's unbelievable.
* You're now paying for significantly more licensing (Citrix, Wyse, VMware, RDS CALs, FSLogix, etc. on top of all the other stuff)
* Thin clients aren't even that cheap anymore. I've heard that Dell has doubled the price of their Wyse clients in the last year.

The Azure hosted VDI is pretty compelling but Microsoft has a habit of half assing shit and I think they're unwilling to antagonize their "industry partners" in the high end space so it'll probably be more geared to smaller businesses.

 

[BikeLock]

So does this mean I finally have to move on from 7?

 

[oh no its pipkun]

What does mean for people whose hardware cant run 11? i cant download their media creation tool anymore?

 

[RACISM]

Remember when Windows 10 came out and every retard said they would pry 7 out of their cold dead hands then those same retards started praising Windows 10?

I remember. I still say win 10 is gay and still use 7 because I am not a nigger.

And let's be real, Win7 was no picnic toward the end. Microsoft kept slipping telemetry in with the Windows updates and if you didn't keep a constant eye on it and comb through blogs and forums to find out which "bad updates" to disable, you'd be in nearly as bad a place as a stock Win10 install.

I just install up to SP1, have a hardened network perimeter, zero cracked software, and a browser hardened to diamond state.

 

[byuu]

I remember. I still say win 10 is gay and still use 7 because I am not a nigger.

I just install up to SP1, have a hardened network perimeter, zero cracked software, and a browser hardened to diamond state.

You can get a Windows 7 with recent security patches by using Windows POSReady 7. Which is an edition sold to run on ATMs and cash registers but is fully functional.

 

[RACISM]

You can get a Windows 7 with recent security patches by using Windows POSReady 7. Which is an edition sold to run on ATMs and cash registers but is fully functional.

I have a years old install that every time it's fucked itself I have stubbornly fixed rather than reinstall. It's held together with a whole load of shit I can't even remember doing. At this point I want to ride it until the wheels fall off. Also every program I use is customised to fuck and I'm not doing all that shit again. If it ever dies to the point I can't revive it, I'll just boot into my Linux partition and grab the files, then never use Windows again (apart from using 10 in a VM for work like I already do).

 

[Pee Cola]

I miss win 7. I was very upset when I could not stop the canceraids update from updating

I used W7 on a daily driver PC for a period last year when I didn't have a W10 PC handy. It's still perfectly cromulent as long as you use decent anti-virus software and practice good opsec (hint: using a browser without uBlock Origin is like doing a street walker bareback... though that's true of any current year OS).

My laptop has given me a decade of use, still uses Windows 7, and now I'm scared what will happen next. This sounds even worse than Windows 10. Halp.

So does this mean I finally have to move on from 7?

Not really. Just stay vigilant (see above).

The other option is Windows 10 LTSC. You'll need to sail the high seas to download it and the activation procedure requires a few extra steps, but it's worth the minimal hassle due its relative light weight and almost complete lack of bloatware. Clean up what little remaining bloatware there is by using the Chris Titus debloater, run O&O ShutUp10 to reclaim a little bit of privacy and you'll be fine until the end of the decade (LTSC EOL is around 2029).

 

[seri0us]

My laptop has given me a decade of use, still uses Windows 7, and now I'm scared what will happen next. This sounds even worse than Windows 10. Halp.

linux
run the linux
become an angel of computing

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Windows 11 is fine, lol.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

Win10 is the OS that finally pissed me off enough to try Linux. I wasn't gonna install a fucking spyware suite with my OS so 3 years ago I took the Arch plunge and I haven't looked back even once

The other option is Windows 10 LTSC. You'll need to sail the high seas to download it and the activation procedure requires a few extra steps, but it's worth the minimal hassle due its relative light weight and almost complete lack of bloatware. Clean up what little remaining bloatware there is by using the Chris Titus debloater, run O&O ShutUp10 to reclaim a little bit of privacy and you'll be fine until the end of the decade (LTSC EOL is around 2029).

imagine downloading 20 utilities just to reduce the puke flavor enough to swallow MS' load, lol. my brother in christ, just learn to use Linux

 

[Pee Cola]

imagine downloading 20 utilities just to reduce the puke flavor enough to swallow MS' load, lol. my brother in christ, just learn to use Linux

I already know how to use Linux, but I choose not to because Linuxfags are some of the most insufferable cunts this side of Teslafags. It's only gotten worse since the troonification of FOSS movement.

Anyways, I'd rather actively stick it to the man by taking the time to set up the cleanest possible Windows experience in current year.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Whats wrong with Windows 11?

Just curious, my current pc isn't compatible but i am building one soon.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

I already know how to use Linux, but I choose not to because Linuxfags are some of the most insufferable cunts this side of Teslafags. It's only gotten worse since the troonification of FOSS movement.

Anyways, I'd rather actively stick it to the man by taking the time to set up the cleanest possible Windows experience in current year.

so you're cucking yourself because some people you have no obligation to even acknowledge the existence of annoy you?

 

[Schwarzwald]

Going to go against the grain a bit. I'm not a huge fan of Windows 11 out of the box, but once you make some changes to make it more like what you're used to, it's absolutely fine. Good, even, especially once you're used to the minor changes from previous versions. You can customize it to look and act almost exactly like a traditional Windows OS without the app garbage and connectivity. It's got plenty of questionable privacy settings and tracking, but so did 10, and that can all be disabled and disconnected along with the account tie-in.

I completely understood the Vista hate as it was slow and borderline unusable, but I'm not in the slightest getting the hatred for 11 that I'm seeing here. Disclaimer that I'm a pretty basic user, though, so I'm sure a lot of you guys are doing more intensive stuff that I'd never run into issues with.

 

[TheBigZee]

I completely understood the Vista hate as it was slow and borderline unusable, but I'm not in the slightest getting the hatred for 11 that I'm seeing here. Disclaimer that I'm a pretty basic user, though, so I'm sure a lot of you guys are doing more intensive stuff that I'd never run into issues with.

Requiring TPM and a Microsoft account came across as nefarious to a lot of people.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

I was asked to install Windows 11 Pro onto a laptop today at work and the OOBE is genuinely one of the most unpleasant experiences. The only thing that could've made it worse is if it suddenly screamed at 100% volume "Hi there! I'm Cortana, and I'm here to help."

 

[Peenix]

The only thing that could've made it worse is if it suddenly screamed at 100% volume "Hi there! I'm Cortana, and I'm here to help."

Be thankful they've yet to implement their "Content distribution regulation by viewing user" patent. (20120278904)

Abstract:
A content presentation system and method allowing content providers to regulate the presentation of content on a per-userview basis.
Content is distributed an associated license option on the number of individual consumers or viewers allowed to consume the content.
Consumers are presented with a content selection and a choice of licenses allowing consumption of the content.
The users consuming the content on a display device are monitored so that if the number of user-views licensed is exceeded, remedial action may be taken.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

Going to go against the grain a bit. I'm not a huge fan of Windows 11 out of the box, but once you make some changes to make it more like what you're used to, it's absolutely fine. Good, even, especially once you're used to the minor changes from previous versions. You can customize it to look and act almost exactly like a traditional Windows OS without the app garbage and connectivity. It's got plenty of questionable privacy settings and tracking, but so did 10, and that can all be disabled and disconnected along with the account tie-in.

I completely understood the Vista hate as it was slow and borderline unusable, but I'm not in the slightest getting the hatred for 11 that I'm seeing here. Disclaimer that I'm a pretty basic user, though, so I'm sure a lot of you guys are doing more intensive stuff that I'd never run into issues with.

I've had some run-ins with Win11 in a professional setting and I'll say this: it's definitely a functional OS especially compared to the faceplants MS has made in the past. I'm reasonably certain that's because it's using the same code base as 10. my own personal autism causes my brain to screech at things like non-optional UI changes, integrated telemetry etc. but if you're one of the 95% of PC users that don't really give a fuck, Win11 is fine. anecdotally, I know some people who were early adopters of the OS for home use, and based on what I heard from them, the bugs/compatibility issues were worse than normal this time around, but I do believe that period has largely passed.