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This picture would be completely empty if you trimmed the fat.
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How is it even the dog looks soy filled?

 

[Agarathium1066]

I don't think it counts on reddit. You're supposed to be able to fool humans, not fool other NPCs into thinking you're also an NPC.

"Have you ever heard of The Orange Man?"

"Terrible creatures."

"Goodbye."

They both stare at one another for a few moments before turning and walking away. Turing Test nailed.

 

[Trig.Point]

It's not just online. Richard Dawkins used to be everywhere, you had the Atheist Bus Campaign, etc. Then it all just evaporated.

My guess is that someone rich was bankrolling the whole thing, and they lost interest.

The atheist bus is kind of an interesting example of what happened with the Atheist Movement, it raised a lot of money, and got a lot of positive media coverage. The BBC did the usual thing about trying to dig up christians that were offended by it.

Even then the campaign chickened out, they went with 'probably' no God rather than there is no God.

The woman running it was an unhinged proto influencer type, who went onto officially have a nervous breakdown and accuse basically everyone she knew of abusing her. Dawkins did very well to escape without allegations coming his way.

 

[Blatant hypocrite]

KiA upset that localizers remove pedophilia references in localization, part #958123:

Here’s an example of the blatant censorship in the new Fire Emblem game.

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They are literally going "ITS OK THO SHES A 1000 YEAR OLD DRAGON GODESS"

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FACISM IS WHEN YOU CAN'T FUCK 11 YEAR OLDS
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Someone unironically should report these fuckers to the FBI, they need to be on a watchlist.

This time they're just upset about romance in a visual novel or some shit but time and time again they get upset whenever loli porn gets banned from pornsites. Actual menance to society.

This wasn't all that was done. As with other Nintendo properties, clear references to gender were removed from several pieces of dialogue. This autism is a smokescreen.

The "video game localization" controversy is tremendously gay in general, one side thinks that free speech is pedophilia and the other thinks that pedophilia is free speech.

At the end of the day neither of them are winning because they're both mad about video games.

 

[DumbDude43]

Weighing in on elevatorgate

quick rundown on elevatorgate? was it not about dawkins himself?

There is likely a good Tortuous Interference tort with Keffals and to a greater extent Liz Fong-Jones. That's a $75,000 gamble.

isnt liz fong jones in australia, and keffals in canada? that would make suing them in burger courts even more of a hassle, and trying in canadian/australian courts is probably a lost cause entirely

 

[Agarathium1066]

The "video game localization" controversy is tremendously gay in general, one side thinks that free speech is pedophilia and the other thinks that pedophilia is free speech.

At the end of the day neither of them are winning because they're both mad about video games.

In the case of the new FE game a lot of it is framed as being pederasty bullshit (helps the series is known for its creepy relationships including incest). There's quite a bit of translators that chop up games if they so much as get a single whiff of anything they deem unacceptable which naturally is goddamn near anything. Whole characters get rewritten, memes are jammed headlong into dialogue, and yes the alphabet soup gets put in as frequently as physically possible.

Translators of course respond to concerns on this with saying people are evil shitlords or the usual insults because they do a shit job and don't like being told that.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

quick rundown on elevatorgate? was it not about dawkins himself?

Been ages so might have some details wrong but the short it was big wig in the atheist community (Rebecca Watson was the name I think. Want to say runs rationalwiki now) was at a atheist convention and was on a elevator talking to a guy. I guess about atheism. The guy thought they were hitting it off and invited her to his room for coffee.

Well how dare he do such a thing. He might as well have raped her then and there for suggesting such a thing. Didn't he think to factor in how intimidating such a request was to ask someone in a elevator, late at night.

I cant remember if this was at the peak of atheism+ or the start of it. Because how do you make atheist more insufferable? Mixing feminism and social justice talking points into it.

To ask a women such a thing caused such a stir in the community that even Dawkins commented on it. His comment being the end of the Dawkins will guide us to enlightenment when he told her to get over herself because they're are worse things happening in the name of religion then being hit on.

 

[Haffhart]

Mind you, there are good, solid reasons to dislike all those things. M&Ms are too sweet. Metal sounds awful.

Does someone know why litter boxes are on the list? Some new conspiracy or something?

Now do it in a mosque.

The atheist would not do this, partly from fear of getting beheaded, and partly because its main beef is with Christianity. You rarely see an atheist attack Buddhism, paganism, or God forbid Judaism, for dozens of reasons.

You can still see some of it to this day if you look at the comments section on old religion videos on Youtube or all of the one star reviews of the Bible's Goodreads page.

Who is the idiot who gave the Bible a Goodreads page? It reminds me of how at least one fanfiction site (FanFiction.net) allows religious fanfiction. That should be a kneejerk "not allowed" category.

In the case of the new FE game a lot of it is framed as being pederasty bullshit (helps the series is known for its creepy relationships including incest).

Ephraim and Erika did nothing wrong. Trust me I've played TSS thoroughly. Coomers ruin everything. (Unless you had another game in mind)

 

[Agarathium1066]

Ephraim and Erika did nothing wrong. Trust me I've played TSS thoroughly. Coomers ruin everything. (Unless you had another game in mind)

Coomers do but that wasn't the specific stuff I'm talking about. I can get chopping out the implication of you basically romancing a child in the new game. I wouldn't leave it in either but it doesn't stop translators from usually going scorched earth on anything they dislike which given they're usually twitter-goers is fucking anything.

 

[Lone Star]

In the case of the new FE game a lot of it is framed as being pederasty bullshit (helps the series is known for its creepy relationships including incest). There's quite a bit of translators that chop up games if they so much as get a single whiff of anything they deem unacceptable which naturally is goddamn near anything. Whole characters get rewritten, memes are jammed headlong into dialogue, and yes the alphabet soup gets put in as frequently as physically possible.

Translators of course respond to concerns on this with saying people are evil shitlords or the usual insults because they do a shit job and don't like being told that.

I never understood this. Do the original game developers just not know about these weird translations or agenda pushing? Or do they just not care? Like these fuckers aren't doing their jobs. They're supposed to translate, not pick, choose, and change things based on whatever whims they have.

 

[DumbDude43]

I never understood this. Do the original game developers just not know about these weird translations or agenda pushing? Or do they just not care? Like these fuckers aren't doing their jobs. They're supposed to translate, not pick, choose, and change things based on whatever whims they have.

corporate and marketing departments handle localisation and international releases, original devs are not involved in any of this

 

[Lone Star]

corporate and marketing departments handle localisation and international releases, original devs are not involved in any of this

But do they not find out, or are they just powerless to stop it?

 

[DumbDude43]

But do they not find out, or are they just powerless to stop it?

no idea if they find out, or if they even care. but even if they do, what are they gonna do about it? some writer or developer who works for the FE dev studio in tokyo isn't in a position to tell the people at nintendo of america how to do their localisation work.

 

[Agarathium1066]

no idea if they find out, or if they even care. but even if they do, what are they gonna do about it? some writer or developer who works for the FE dev studio in tokyo isn't in a position to tell the people at nintendo of america how to do their localisation work.

The most I've ever seen in response is 'You can always play the japanese language version'. No ability to change it on top of likely not giving much of a fuck what the english version is like.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

Been ages so might have some details wrong but the short it was big wig in the atheist community (Rebecca Watson was the name I think. Want to say runs rationalwiki now) was at a atheist convention and was on a elevator talking to a guy. I guess about atheism. The guy thought they were hitting it off and invited her to his room for coffee.

Well how dare he do such a thing. He might as well have raped her then and there for suggesting such a thing. Didn't he think to factor in how intimidating such a request was to ask someone in a elevator, late at night.

I cant remember if this was at the peak of atheism+ or the start of it. Because how do you make atheist more insufferable? Mixing feminism and social justice talking points into it.

To ask a women such a thing caused such a stir in the community that even Dawkins commented on it. His comment being the end of the Dawkins will guide us to enlightenment when he told her to get over herself because they're are worse things happening in the name of religion then being hit on.

Dawkins also managed to mix pedophila into it saying he was molested as a boy by the Anglican church, but that was cool because it made him a better person? WTF?

Richard Dawkins Defends 'Mild' Pedophilia, Again and Again

Richard Dawkins defended "mild pedophilia" in an interview this weekend. It's not the first time.

www.theatlantic.com

This article is from the archive of our partner .
Richard Dawkins defended "mild pedophilia" in an interview this weekend. And while the quote itself is quite jarring, especially to those who look to Dawkins for his influential writings on atheism (but haven't noticed some of his other strange stances), it's far from the first time that the scientist has launched a defense of the behavior — or talked about his own abuse at the hands of boarding school teachers. First, here's what Dawkins said to The Times magazine, as condensed by the Religion News Service:

Referring to his early days at a boarding school in Salisbury, he recalled how one of the (unnamed) masters “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts.”
He said other children in his school peer group had been molested by the same teacher but concluded: “I don’t think he did any of us lasting harm.”
“I am very conscious that you can’t condemn people of an earlier era by the standards of ours. Just as we don’t look back at the 18th and 19th centuries and condemn people for racism in the same way as we would condemn a modern person for racism, I look back a few decades to my childhood and see things like caning, like mild pedophilia, and can’t find it in me to condemn it by the same standards as I or anyone would today,” he said.
He said the most notorious cases of pedophilia involve rape and even murder and should not be bracketed with what he called “just mild touching up.”

His reasons for defending the behavior seem to focus on three points. First, that "hysteria" over a fear of pedophilia is overblown by society; second, that instilling a child with fundamentalist religious beliefs is actually a worse way to abuse a child; and third, that he personally overcame childhood sexual abuse, meaning it must not be that big of a deal for anyone else who was subjected to similar behavior.


In April of this year, Dawkins compared two forms of what he sees as priestly abuse in an interview with Al Jazeera: sexual and theological. This exchange became pretty well-circulated in the conservative press.


He said:

There are shades of being abused by a priest, and I quoted an example of a woman in America who wrote to me saying that when she was 7 years old, she was sexually abused by a priest in his car.
“At the same time, a friend of hers, also 7, who was of a Protestant family, died, and she was told that because her friend was Protestant, she had gone to hell and will be roasting in hell forever.
“She told me, of those two abuses, she got over the physical abuse; it was yucky, but she got over it. But the mental abuse of being told about hell, she took years to get over. "

This line of thought goes back at least to 2006 for Dawkins, when he wrote "we live in a time of hysteria about paedophilia, a mob psychology that calls to mind the Salem witch-hunts of 1692," in his popular book the God Delusion. He continued:

All three of the boarding schools I attended employed teachers whose affections for small boys overstepped the bounds of propriety. That was indeed reprehensible. Nevertheless, if, fifty years on, they had been hounded by vigilantes or lawyers as no better than child murderers, I should have felt obliged to come to their defence, even as the victim of one of them (an embarrassing but otherwise harmless experience).
The Roman Catholic Church has borne a heavy share of such retrospective opprobrium. For all sorts of reasons I dislike the Roman Catholic Church. But I dislike unfairness even more, and I can’t help wondering whether this one institution has been unfairly demonized over the issue, especially in Ireland and America… We should be aware of the remarkable power of the mind to concoct false memories, especially when abetted by unscrupulous therapists and mercenary lawyers. The psychologist Elizabeth Loftus has shown great courage, in the face of spiteful vested interests, in demonstrating how easy it is for people to concoct memories that are entirely false but which seem, to the victim, every bit as real as true memories. This is so counter-intuitive that juries are easily swayed by sincere but false testimony from witnesses.

There's more. In 2012, a few conservative publications finally noticed what Dawkins wrote in 2006, and dredged it up. Dawkins then defended pedophilia, again, in defense of those earlier remarks:

I was myself sexually abused by a teacher when I was about nine or ten years old. It was a very unpleasant and embarrassing experience, but the mental trauma was soon exorcised by comparing notes with my contemporaries who had suffered it previously at the hands of the same master.

The following quote, from the same defense, drives home what's so off about Dawkins's argument here, beyond the knee-jerk recoiling of the idea of defending a pedophile. Dawkins, a scientist, relies on anecdotal evidence and speculation to "prove" his point:

Thank goodness, I have never personally experienced what it is like to believe – really and truly and deeply believe – in hell. But I think it can be plausibly argued that such a deeply held belief might cause a child more long-lasting mental trauma than the temporary embarrassment of mild physical abuse.
Anecdotes and plausibility arguments, however, need to be backed up by systematic research, and I would be interested to hear from psychologists whether there is real evidence bearing on the question. My expectation would be that violent, painful, repeated sexual abuse, especially by a family member such as a father or grandfather, probably has a more damaging effect on a child’s mental well-being than sincerely believing in hell. But ‘sexual abuse’ covers a wide spectrum of sins, and I suspect that research would show belief in hell to be more traumatic than the sort of mild feeling-up that I suffered.

Dawkins gave the Times interview that put him back in the news this week in relation to his autobiography, by the way, comes out later this month.

This article is from the archive of our partner The Wire.

Abby Ohlheiser is a former staff writer for The Wire.
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[Oats12345]

While we're on the subject of reddit atheism, here's some stuff I snipped from an /antiwork religion thread:

Knew there would be some good stuff right from the thread title:

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Naturally, we have someone who despises religion because he hates everything and religion is a thing. But someday communism will win and we will all dwell in the Land of Soylent and Onlyfans Unlimited Access! Thankfully, no atheist government has ever done anything bad:

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Have you heard that religion is bad? It prevents people from joining the reddit revolution to secure chicken tendies for all.

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Then we have a Jewish guy who, when challenged by some insufferable atheist, admits 'yeah I guess my entire religion is a lie. I'm just glad to be part of a community!' He is also embarrassingly wrong about how old Judaism is, estimating that it was born alongside Jesus.

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It reminds me of that part of the Screwtape Letters where a devil is giving advice on how to corrupt a human and says (paraphrased): "If your human must join a church, direct him towards a church that's so modern and liberalized that they've become totally detached from the word of God in favor of being a social club."

You know this just comes off so depressing!!

I notice that most Catholics or other christians I know don't spend a great deal of time in there day complaining about atheists. At worst it's just a two minute mention.

Here you got reddit atheists just posting threads about things they don't like and how they are superior (without proven any evidence) to Christians and other specific stuff that each individual poster hates.
Seems like a sad way to live your life.

 

[Foghorns at a Funeral]

You know this just comes off so depressing!!

I notice that most Catholics or other christians I know don't spend a great deal of time in there day complaining about atheists. At worst it's just a two minute mention.

Here you got reddit atheists just posting threads about things they don't like and how they are superior (without proven any evidence) to Christians and other specific stuff that each individual poster hates.
Seems like a sad way to live your life.

It is the most basic bitch form of TAKE THAT DAD teenage rebellion that is why.
They were forced to go to church on Sunday and be bored for a few hours.(Oh the humanity)
I bet you if you talked to them a bit and got down to their real issue with Christianity, it will come down to this. Not some lofty goal about pedo priests or some scandal. It is just that their family went to church, instead of letting them watch cartoons on tv on a Sunday and had a lot of rules about dating and being fuck up. Most of the ones i have seen are pushing 35 and are still going on about their conservative Christian dad making them clean their fucking pig pen of a room and to stop smoking weed. It is never debating theology or even the rules of the church. It is mostly bringing up scandals and using them as a cudgel to why your dad was a bad person and you were in the right.

 

[Oats12345]

It is the most basic bitch form of TAKE THAT DAD teenage rebellion that is why.
They were forced to go to church on Sunday and be bored for a few hours.(Oh the humanity)
I bet you if you talked to them a bit and got down to their real issue with Christianity, it will come down to this. Not some lofty goal about pedo priests or some scandal. It is just that their family went to church, instead of letting them watch cartoons on tv on a Sunday and had a lot of rules about dating and being fuck up. Most of the ones i have seen are pushing 35 and are still going on about their conservative Christian dad making them clean their fucking pig pen of a room and to stop smoking weed. It is never debating theology or even the rules of the church. It is mostly bringing up scandals and using them as a cudgel to why your dad was a bad person and you were in the right.

I find it funny too since that was basically me as a kid didn't want go to church and just wanted to stay home and watch cartoons but my parents force me. But the thing is I don't resent my parents for that and still go to church this day. So I find it insane that there is legit a community full of morons who can't let something like that go and go to the point of using sex scandals to prove how evil their conservative parents were.

Like they legit seem mad that their parents told them that it would be good to have kids after being married instead of before.

 

[AnOminous]

The atheist bus is kind of an interesting example of what happened with the Atheist Movement, it raised a lot of money, and got a lot of positive media coverage. The BBC did the usual thing about trying to dig up christians that were offended by it.

Even then the campaign chickened out, they went with 'probably' no God rather than there is no God.

How would anyone know there is no God? It's not like the origin of the universe is actually even determined definitively. I don't think there's even sufficiently conclusive information to state it as a probability. And even Dawkins never outright stated there is definitely no God, it is just his opinion that it is so unlikely that he acts intellectually superior to those who choose to believe in a Creator. The fact he doesn't definitively state that is because even he knows how foolish that would be.

There are really two fundamental issues in atheism, and one is existential and the other epistemological. One is whether there is a God or not, and some people stake out a strong position on that issue. The other issue is whether the existence or nonexistence of God is even knowable. My personal opinion is a strong no. I don't know and you don't either.

But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

I find it funny too since that was basically me as a kid didn't want go to church and just wanted to stay home and watch cartoons but my parents force me. But the thing is I don't resent my parents for that and still go to church this day. So I find it insane that there is legit a community full of morons who can't let something like that go and go to the point of using sex scandals to prove how evil their conservative parents were.

Like they legit seem mad that their parents told them that it would be good to have kids after being married instead of before.

Like @Foghorns at a Funeral says, it's not really atheism, it's "fuck you Dad" nihilism.

/r/atheism is such a depressing place. I've just been reading their article arguing that Jesus didn't exist (https://old.reddit.com/r/atheism/wiki/historicaljesus), which no serious scholar believes. And it's all such sophist nonsense - like trannies, they have intelligence without the wisdom to go with it. There's no mention of Occam's Razor, i.e. the odds are that St. Paul didn't just invent Jesus, or the fact that there's continuity with the early Church and the modern Church. It's all pseudo-intellectual.

Even then the campaign chickened out, they went with 'probably' no God rather than there is no God.

It's been a while, but IIRC they didn't really want the "probably", but thought they had to put it in to appease the Advertising Standards Agency.