Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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As with anything in the human experience, it's all relative.

So, while I don't doubt that the female orgasm is probably about something spectacular, the same can be said for what guys feel. Speaking for myself (PL), but I've had some where you shudder like you have epilepsy, and your body crumples like a piece of paper, causing you to collapse into your partner (TMI, sorry). Why would I then be curious about what she's feeling (instead of the more pressing matter of if she's feeling something at all).

However... if I had to hazard a guess... What probably makes it more profound for women is due to all the circumstantial attributes (you know, the ones that are exclusively female and can't be easily recreated in a lab) they can/do experience during an orgasm; the likes of which can cause some of them to start crying tears of joy.

That said, I had to go stat hunting, and, surprisingly, 10% of men versus 7% of women have a sex addiction. So, yeah, if the female orgasm was this LSD-level, mind-altering experience that stat would at least be flipped.

I think the root of it all is the image of a female orgasm being this protracted wave of ecstasy that washes over you, that you just have to ride out; versus a guy feeling intense greatness for 5 seconds max. God, what a Faustian bargain these troons (definitely unintentionally) engage in.

"Wanna experience sex as the other gender? Sure! It's gonna cost you..."
Something I have never been able to understand is, why would they think that chopping up a penis, rearranging, and resewing it back on will make them orgasm like a female?

That more than anything really solidifies how superficial their understanding is of what it means to be a woman, let alone female.
 
Something I have never been able to understand is, why would they think that chopping up a penis, rearranging, and resewing it back on will make them orgasm like a female?

That more than anything really solidifies how superficial their understanding is of what it means to be a woman, let alone female.
Most of them have a terrible grasp on biology and are told by either teachers, reddit, a fellow troon, their surgeon that the nerves will somehow "wake up" and then it'll turn to the opposite sex's nerves either on its own or through the magic of HRT.
Yes, most of them are in their 20/30s and seriously believe this. Just be aware that many teens are also browsing those threads and believe in this with zealot-like fervor.
 
Something I have never been able to understand is, why would they think that chopping up a penis, rearranging, and resewing it back on will make them orgasm like a female?

That more than anything really solidifies how superficial their understanding is of what it means to be a woman, let alone female.
Most of them have a terrible grasp on biology and are told by either teachers, reddit, a fellow troon, their surgeon that the nerves will somehow "wake up" and then it'll turn to the opposite sex's nerves either on its own or through the magic of HRT.
Yes, most of them are in their 20/30s and seriously believe this. Just be aware that many teens are also browsing those threads and believe in this with zealot-like fervor.
Like @BBChannel said, they believe in magic. They literally believe that if you invert ballsack skin it becomes the mucous membrane of a vagina. They believe that rolled up arm skin becomes a dick and urethra that is completely the same as a natal one.

To be blunt, they live in delusion, breathe delusion, and become violently hostile whenever something threatens their delusion. They require constant chanting of a focal mantra "Transwomen are women, transmen are men" to help reinforce the delusion.

The inmates are in charge of the asylum.
 
Like @BBChannel said, they believe in magic. They literally believe that if you invert ballsack skin it becomes the mucous membrane of a vagina. They believe that rolled up arm skin becomes a dick and urethra that is completely the same as a natal one.

To be blunt, they live in delusion, breathe delusion, and become violently hostile whenever something threatens their delusion. They require constant chanting of a focal mantra "Transwomen are women, transmen are men" to help reinforce the delusion.

The inmates are in charge of the asylum.

As someone who likes to read and LOL in FTM spaces, I can confirm this.

They seriously call their clitoris a “T dick”, and interpret the fact that some of the tissue and structure in a clitoris is similar to that of a penis as meaning that a clitoris “literally becomes a penis with HRT”.

This is of course also why everything needs to “affirming” with these psychos.

Their delusions need constant watering, since the whole construct will otherwise collapse.
 
There's FTM top surgery results that are good, but they won't be posted on here.
The differences between them and a man with gynecomastia:

1) Gynecomastia surgeons are general plastic surgeons. They also do tummy tucks and breast implants. They don't have a financial incentive to run through as many top surgeries as possible to get lots of money, since they have a diverse client base. Plus there's really not that many men with this condition (although I did find a surgeon near me who caters to guys who have moobs from too much time on steroids). On the other hand, FTM top surgeons often do little else.
2) While having this condition is undoubtedly very hard on a man's self esteem, he's not getting constant messaging that he's going to kill himself if he doesn't get the surgery. So there's less induced desperation.
3) Poor surgical home aftercare. There's a lot of rules you're supposed to follow after surgery, both specific to this kind (e.g., not raising your arms for a certain period of time) and general (e.g., not smoking). FTMs are disproportionately likely to be part of the demographic that refuses to stop smoking weed for any reason. There's a ton of posts on FTM subs about weed and surgery, and some of these people can't even fathom abstaining for like, a month.
On top of all this, I feel that there must be a lack of compassion aspect. If you're treating a guy with gynecomastia, you probably feel empathy for him and genuinely want to give him good results and improve his life. Meanwhile I find it incredibly hard to imagine that any doctor could have compassion, empathy, or even basic human respect for the demented TIFs they must deal with. I imagine that if you don't give a shit about your patient or even dislike them, you probably won't spend any extra time making sure the results look good. You just go in, do exactly what you're meant to do (butcher) and nothing more, and move on to the next troon.
 
“HAHLP!! My vagina collapsed! What do?!”

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Color me surprised… The troons answer to a surgically induced vagina implosion? MORE SURGERY!

Love the mental imagery btw of the locked troon house of biomedical horror.


Rest in piss attention whore art tranny!

Kicking the bucket one month after a surgery is unusual, unless there was some kind of sepsis.

(Theres of course always a risk with surgeries, especially with surgeries that deal with major plumbing like ftm butchery. But the risk is usually the highest during or immediately after surgery.)

Are you sure their death wasn’t some kind of accidental opiate overdose? Seems to fit the bill with everything getting swept under the rug afterwards.

Off topic, but wastrel kids is really why In thankful I’m not a multimillionaire. It’s so fucking common to see these high achievers with multimillion dollar mansions, endowments and estate planning etc. And their kids seem to have a 50/50 chance of either becoming mediocre but respectable citizens. Or troon out, become some weird anarcho communist LARPer or a talentless art fag who buy their way into the scene.

I can’t even imagine the pain of having worked for decades to build a fortune, and see your spoiled kids turn into useless parasites/LARPers.
Can you say Murdaugh?

I'm guessing that their death was called "surgical complications" because the family didn't want the REAL reason to be known.

FWIW, gynecomastia surgery can usually be performed through the nipple, and leaves little if any scarring. It's also frequently covered by health insurance, as are female breast reductions. These across-the-chest scars are horrifying to me.

And one other thing. May be NSFW.

 
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That said, I had to go stat hunting, and, surprisingly, 10% of men versus 7% of women have a sex addiction. So, yeah, if the female orgasm was this LSD-level, mind-altering experience that stat would at least be flipped.
Addiction is not really all about how good the stuff is, but the mindset and situations ppl are in. Not a math fag so the difference is probably somehow super significant, but to my retarded eyes 7vs10% doesn’t seem like a gigantic difference.
 
The virgin man: 60 years old, piss comes out in squirts, hasn't been felt up by a doc since "turn your head and cough" during induction.

The chad KING: 20 years old, piss comes out whenever and however it feels like, 5th surgery fucking with "his" junk, has a whole 3D map of "his" urethra like there are a bunch of Chilean miners stuck in there.
 
Something I have never been able to understand is, why would they think that chopping up a penis, rearranging, and resewing it back on will make them orgasm like a female?

That more than anything really solidifies how superficial their understanding is of what it means to be a woman, let alone female.
Personally, something I never understood was how rejecting trans people that undergone SRS is considered pure transphobia since “genital preferences” are no longer valid. How delusional can you be? These results are nightmarish.

Even the “best” examples that the surgeons choose to exhibit on their websites are fucking disastrous.

More absurdly, they then hide behind the “everyones genitals are different excuse. Sure, everyone’s genitals are different; however, I’ve never seen natal woman with a vagina that looks like a mangled dick and a man with a penis looks rolled up arm flesh. Even nature’s massive fuck ups are more digestible than what I’ve seen here.

Based off these pics alone, there is no way in hell that I am willing to take the chance of seeing one of these neo-disasters in real life. I would not have the stomach for it.
 
Reading this thread felt like having my third eye pried open with a crowbar. A few friends of mine are trooning out and knowing what I now know about these surgeries, I am worried that they may end up on here as well.
> has friends that just trooned
a lot of trans people start gay, so you were hanging out with homos before this and/or are one as well.
 
Another day, another crazy lady with an UTI:

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It’s almost as if our urinary system is a pretty big deal that you shouldn’t fuck with or something?!
 
Another day, another crazy lady with an UTI:

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It’s almost as if our urinary system is a pretty big deal that you shouldn’t fuck with or something?!
What kind of bad level pain must these ppl be in that they only notice they gave a UTI when their pee turned pink. Excuse the sperging, but UTIs are excruciatingly painful long before getting blood in your urine. Either these ppl are hooked on painkillers 24/7 or all the genital butchery has somehow messed up how they process pain. In any case, I hope they'll enjoy their failing kidneys down the line bc frequent and untreated UTIs can wreak havoc on them.
 
Found this “beauty” on reddit:

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I love how obvious it is exactly what they did, and how they rearranged the ballsack/dick.

And note that this is by Thai Dr. Bank who is supposed to be one of THE BEST at this, after having had thousands of coomer huns under the knife.

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Some troon posted a 200 page guide about their SRS on Thailand (about 2/3s was about local food and food pics so pretty sure it was a fatty, lol!)

What caught my attention was the part about medication though.

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The pain protocol is pretty laughable by American standards. (Tramadol as a heavy duty painkiller? LOL!)

But at another point he talks about getting pethidine and most of the “girls” getting morphine so who knows.

What blew me away was the 5mg Clonazepam though.

The max strength of Clonazepam in Western countries is 2 mg. And for good reason. It’s a benzo that’s also used for seizure disorders, has a half-life of 20-40 hours, and just 1mg will absolutely knock you on your ass.

If they give 5mg just every other day, these freaks will be high as a kite 24-7, and will most likely refer to those weeks in Thailand as a blur that they can’t remember much of.
 
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Okay let me expand upon my post with Gynocomastia. I posted non-keyhole pics. Which are much rarer in men as some have stated. Which only ADDS to my point on how fucked it is for women.

Are there bad Gynocomastia results? Yes.
Is it harder to find? Yes.

Are there good TiF tit removal results? Yes
Is it harder to find? 100% yes (especially non keyhole) i literally found all my examples on reddit top surgery. I picked the exact same procedure (non-keyhole) and still found these pics with immense ease. This post did not take long to compile because there's so much laughably BAD top surgery. That's why I titled the post "often just butchery".

It took me more time to find pics of men with big enough tits to be non-keyhole (very very rare sub-condition of an already rare condition) vs. women who had laughably shitty top surgery and posted it on the internet.

I found an autistic thing on an advanced keyhole dissection method used in male Gynocomastia where you basically remove a donut around the nip and reattach to get rid of loose skin. This means more men can get keyhole with better results. Wammins? No, you get sticker sheet nipples and sinking chest if you're slightly too saggy.

My point was if they can do it on MEN who have female breast tissue still have a very good looking and natural result then there is no excuse to have WOMEN with absolute nightmare fuel, pokeball scars, consistent cases of nipple rotting, missed breast tissue, or "creative liberties" taken on the surgical site. Seeing this means your "life saving" GRS nigger does not care in the same way as a standard gynecomastia surgeon even though they're both cosmetic surgeons who are both COVERED BY INSURANCE.

Your top surgeon ghosting you to fix dog ears, remove drains or generally being unavailable after for checkups post surgery is a sign you got fucking played. This is the classic story for all SRS surgery. They want your money. They don't want to help you. Trannies are complacent in letting this cycle continue and letting predatory doctors get $$$$. Butchery comes up in more ways than just cutting off healthy tissue.
 
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I’d love to know what the insurance rates are for these surgeries, and what they pay for male gynocomastia.

I’d suspect, and this is really nothing more than speculating, that plastic surgeons get relatively well compensated for male gynocomastia procedures, just based on how rare it is.

Likewise, the surgeons doing them on males probably have quite a bit of experience.

As for troons getting “top surgery” (and again: Just speculating) I’d presume that it’s becoming a race to the bottom in terms of reimbursement rates, as more surgeons get in on the gold rush, and try to offer competitive rates for insurers.

(I’m talking about American doctors/clinics here. It’s a different matter in Europe.)
 
Found this “beauty” on reddit:


I love how obvious it is exactly what they did, and how they rearranged the ballsack/dick.

And note that this is by Thai Dr. Bank who is supposed to be one of THE BEST at this, after having had thousands of coomer huns under the knife.

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Some troon posted a 200 page guide about their SRS on Thailand (about 2/3s was about local food and food pics so pretty sure it was a fatty, lol!)

What caught my attention was the part about medication though.

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The pain protocol is pretty laughable by American standards. (Tramadol as a heavy duty painkiller? LOL!)

But at another point he talks about getting pethidine and most of the “girls” getting morphine so who knows.

What blew me away was the 5mg Clonazepam though.

The max strength of Clonazepam in Western countries is 2 mg. And for good reason. It’s a benzo that’s also used for seizure disorders, has a half-life of 20-40 hours, and just 1mg will absolutely knock you on your ass.

If they give 5mg just every other day, these freaks will be high as a kite 24-7, and will most likely refer to those weeks in Thailand as a blur that they can’t remember much of.

They probably mean 0,5 mg. Never trust non-med folks to give accurate information on doses.

0.5 mg is the typical dose for sleep, titrating up to 1 mg if ineffective. (For seizure disorder, dosing starts at 1.5 mg daily in divided doses.)

Unless the doctor is trying to knock them out all day so the staff don’t have to deal with tranny screeching.
 
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