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Oats12345 said:
Does anyone else kind of miss the old Harley Quinn before they tried making her a brave lesbian?
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Kind of? Harley's been dead to me for 30 years.

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Oats12345 said:
Does anyone else kind of miss the old Harley Quinn before they tried making her a brave lesbian?
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Ehh…

Harley is a mixed bag, but I don’t think the old was necessarily always the greatest either. Harley’s biggest issue is just figuring out what to do with her post-Joker, a problem not even the Animated Series necessarily answered.

I honestly believe Injustice is the most well-rounded take on the character, which is shocking given how badly they fuck up many of DC’s characters. The good thing they did with her was making her an anti-hero like Catwoman. She actually showed progress in that series which is nice as TAS always hinted at her being the most redeemable, but Injustice is the first time I really felt that as the DCAU kinda reverted her back to Joker’s sidekick.
 
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Oats12345 said:
Does anyone else kind of miss the old Harley Quinn before they tried making her a brave lesbian?
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Honestly it depends. Like Harley is either a good character depending on the writer since in the more recent stuff I did like her in the first two seasons of this show, the Arkham games, and she actually was decent in James gunn's Suicide Squad.

But she can easily be screwed up with Season 3 of this show and the other DC movies she was put in.

However I prefer her overall in the DCAU
 
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Doctor of Autism said:
Honestly it depends. Like Harley is either a good character depending on the writer since in the more recent stuff I did like her in the first two seasons of this show, the Arkham games, and she actually was decent in James gunn's Suicide Squad.

But she can easily be screwed up with Season 3 of this show and the other DC movies she was put in.

However I prefer her overall in the DCAU
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I agree I enjoyed her in James Gunn Suicide Squad. I almost thought I wouldn't like that version of Harley Quinn again after Birds of Prey. But Gunn's Suicide Squad made her likable again for me.
 
Been watching clips of episode 5.

First off, Batman singing and them bringing in the Music Meister from best Batman series, Brave and The Bold, was cool. I don’t even mind the race swap as it fits surprisingly well. It is also cool to hear the voice actor get a chance to sing this time around, the voice isn’t the most beautiful thing ever, but it does the job surprisingly well.

Everything else seems like trash though. More Ivy shaming because fuck it, screw the best part of seasons 1 and 2. Nora Fries coming back as a slut really does undermine the Freeze sacrifice as said earlier about the bachelorette party episode. Constantine does jack shit, wasting the voice talent they hyped up. Swamp Thing could be funny, but doesn’t really do anything. Having him as a pot smoker is a funny concept, but goes virtually no where.
 
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Bungus Scrungus said:
I find it funny how this relationship was founded under what is essentially rape and this season is focused on it in it's entirety, pretty much. Very good message being shown off here that people are too dumb to notice. Kite Man did nothing wrong.
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What makes it worse is that the season berates Ivy, the rape victim, for being the bad part of the relationship.
 
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So, new episode.

After watching clips it was great!
I feel like this episode reinforces that the show is better without Harley or Ivy. Joker is easily the best part of the show so dedicating an entire episode to him is fantastic. I love the weird family dynamic he now has and him using his intellect for petty shit. Overall great character development and comedy.
 
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So, what a massive jump in quality this latest episode was. Finally a plot line with an interesting character study surrounding it. I love the idea of Harley potentially going good. It was something they should have done in the comics, so I am glad it is being explored here. I also love the mental story as I love the rare occasions in which the psychology of a Batman character is further explored in media.

Just, keep it up can ya. This second half of the season feels like it is taking a 180 and I am all for it.


Also, apparently the show got renewed for a 4th season.
 
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So, what a massive jump in quality this latest episode was. Finally a plot line with an interesting character study surrounding it. I love the idea of Harley potentially going good. It was something they should have done in the comics, so I am glad it is being explored here. I also love the mental story as I love the rare occasions in which the psychology of a Batman character is further explored in media.

Just, keep it up can ya. This second half of the season feels like it is taking a 180 and I am all for it.


Also, apparently the show got renewed for a 4th season.
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Super duper optimistic take, but maybe the HBO/Discovery train wreck made them realize they actually have to try and write good scripts if they want to stay employed.
 
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Thinking of this show because I've noticed a lot of the people giving this show a critical tongue-bath are among those who've been making long, moralistic, fingerwagging statements, posts and threads that Bruce Timm is a sexist, woman-objectifying monster.

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Anyhoo, this Harley Quinn show is far, far more embarrassing than anything Bruce Timm's ever done, including his fixation on having Batgirl and Batman hook up. From what I've seen of the show it's written by people who don't think much of Batman. Of course, I found out the creators of the show and it's main writers are behind various shitcoms like "Cougar Town", I'm sure these people are all big fans of comics' "Dark Knight" and such.

What's really irritating about the show is that it's obviously somewhat better animated than the average animated sitcom produced by hacks who crank out live-action sitcom drivel, but that animation is wasted on "hilarious" Redditor-tier hacky jokes about how The Joker finds out Bruce Wayne is Batman and wants to know where his electric car is, or the Joker trying to pretend he's actually read "Infinite Jest".
 
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Commander X said:
Thinking of this show because I've noticed a lot of the people giving this show a critical tongue-bath are among those who've been making long, moralistic, fingerwagging statements, posts and threads that Bruce Timm is a sexist, woman-objectifying monster.

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Anyhoo, this Harley Quinn show is far, far more embarrassing than anything Bruce Timm's ever done, including his fixation on having Batgirl and Batman hook up. From what I've seen of the show it's written by people who don't think much of Batman. Of course, I found out the creators of the show and it's main writers are behind various shitcoms like "Cougar Town", I'm sure these people are all big fans of comics' "Dark Knight" and such.

What's really irritating about the show is that it's obviously somewhat better animated than the average animated sitcom produced by hacks who crank out live-action sitcom drivel, but that animation is wasted on "hilarious" Redditor-tier hacky jokes about how The Joker finds out Bruce Wayne is Batman and wants to know where his electric car is, or the Joker trying to pretend he's actually read "Infinite Jest".
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They had a giant tantrum about having to cut out a cunnilgus scene. They're gross.
 
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