Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Kujo Jotaro]

The Innsmouth look !


His surgery may have actually been life-saving. There's no way that abusing his balls like that wouldn't eventually lead to his death. I'm sure he will find other ways to mutilate himself. maybe sticking obscenely large objects in his rot pocket.
I feel so bad for his ex-wife. She stuck with him when he was doing that shit to his balls but when he escalated to full on cutting body parts off she had enough. Imagine having a loved one be this unhinged.
TLDR , retard puts the coom before his wife.

He was gay, I'm sure his deviant partner had no issue with the scotum inflation, from his story it sounds more like it was the constant drug abuse(which he also lied about at another point, specifically said he had never used them.). Clearly the guy is an unreliable narrator, but these types tend to disclose more than they think or intend.

 

[Scrumption]

Re: Tard Whisperer (reply function not working)

That’s an excellent writeup. His story highlights just how privileged some of these troons are. The average person cannot afford to take extensive periods off from work, to travel to foreign countries and shell out tens of thousands of dollars for surgeries, spend weeks in recovery, then later on decide to pay for the surgery to get reversed. Meanwhile, he is cheered on by troons and their ilk for “becoming his true self.”

He says he doesn’t regret it, but meanwhile he says he would’ve been fine had he not transitioned.

Some of those surgeries are so strange. I mean, teeth lengthening? He looked fine beforehand. Every surgery made him look uglier. He had issues with the result of so many of them. A bunch of them went wrong, like the bolt-on chest implants. In the end, he puts all of the blame on everyone but himself. It is the doctors fault for giving him a bad result, the troons for lying, etc. etc. He is the one that underwent the surgery. No one forced him. He is angry at Kamol, yet Kamol gave him exactly what he asked for. Also, despite decrying troon dishonesty about surgeries, he still perpetuates these lies by not rejecting SRS altogether. He also complains that the surgeries are like torture, but I can’t feel any sympathy because he is always eager to go under the knife again afterwards.

He seemed to think after each surgery, he would finally be comfortable in his body. What he didn’t realize is that you cannot cure mental illness by changing your body. The result is never as good as they intend. Even if they got surgery that perfectly fit their idea of what they should look like, who is to say that their mental illness wont change later on to desire a different body shape? I am not sure if that last point makes any sense with how I worded it.

It seems like his transition was a way of him trying to cope with some sort of unaddressed childhood trauma. Does he mention being abused anywhere in his digital footprint?

He was gay, I'm sure his deviant partner had no issue with the scotum inflation, from his story it sounds more like it was the constant drug abuse(which he also lied about at another point, specifically said he had never used them.). Clearly the guy is an unreliable narrator, but these types tend to disclose more than they think or intend.

In one post he said he convinced his ex-partner to go to Tijuana and to get his own injections. How does a person develop such a sick fetish in the first place? I feel like these people with extreme fetish body modifications are always living in Washington State and San Francisco, California. I am not sure how they can be functioning members of society if they have to waddle around with the equivalent of two ostrich eggs in their pants. You can’t even go in public like that. What if a child were to see?

I also don’t doubt for a second that he has abused drugs.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

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[Sinner's Sandwich]

He seemed to think after each surgery, he would finally be comfortable in his body.

These people don't realize that being comfortable in your body is a process and takes effort. It's fucking easy to troon out & get your genitals butchered but the brain stays ill. There is no quick and easy fix. Genital mutilation only makes life worse and recovery from a mental illness harder if not impossible. There are tons of step by step guides that tell you exactly what to do to transition. There are no guides to overcome your specific trauma, there are no surgeons in Thailand that cure your depression. It's scary, it's psychological painful and it takes time. But it's worth it.

 

[Battery Low]

It blows my mind when they talk about how much these surgeries cost. I think about what I would do if I had that kind of money... and yet they do this to themselves....

 

[Disability Fat]

It blows my mind when they talk about how much these surgeries cost. I think about what I would do if I had that kind of money... and yet they do this to themselves....

What a luxury, what a privilege, to be able to willingly take on that amount of debt for no sound medical reason, eh?

 

[Fapcop]

GUYS!

We gotta stop using the M word!

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

If holding a vital information leads someone to consent sex with you, and knowing certain information make that person to not consent sex, yes, it is rape by deception.

I think you will find that this is not the law, that rape-by-deception is a far broader concept and is rare and unsettled even in much clearer cases (e.g., entering a dark room and pretending to be a different person altogether), and that even legal theory struggles with the notion, both generally and even more so in the trans context. All of that ^ is the situation worldwide, for the most part.

The struggle is both theoretical and practical. We do, after all, rely on fraud theory in laws addressing pecuniary loss as a result of the fraud, but generally speaking rarely extend that concept to bodily autonomy. (Even if legislators could agree on the concept, defining scope and retaining theoretical consistency is exceptionally difficult - and that means efforts would be exceptionally vulnerable to challenge or outright disregard.).

Barring some outliers and one-offs here or there, that (lack of rape-by-deception laws) is the state of the law today - again, not even limited to gender/sex deception (even moreso deception by omission), but to the concept at all. Even in jurisdictions with purported rape-by-deception laws, you have to look at how rape is defined, what type of fraud is covered (inducement or factum), and the circumstances in which it applies (e.g., you might find a state that covers it only in the case of someone pretending to be a woman's husband). You won't find what you've asserted.

You can say you think it should be legally considered criminal rape by deception to fail to reveal that one is not the sex they present themselves to be, or to lie about it actively, but that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 

[An empty shill]

GUYS!

We gotta stop using the M word!

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Nah, fuck off you scum sucking Aiden.

You don't want to hear the word so you can lie to yourself and others about what it is that really happens.

A spade is a spade, and a "arrangement" of your genitals is mutilation by another name.
Deal with it.

 

[Fapcop]

Another day, another harvest of zippertits!


Nice hips bro!
You can’t really see the scaring, but as always the butcher just chopped Fucking EVERYTHING making him look as flat as a board. Somehow FTMs don’t seem to realize that men in fact have chests and chest fat too.


Too early to tell how bad the scaring will be, but placement is weird. We get the usual flat-as-a-board look. I like how the butcher literally DREW a pair of tits on him with those scars.


We get a Gallagher callback!
The usual flat zippertits chest, and notice how the result is seemingly quite a bit worse than the chick above. Despite also being 3-4 days old.

 

[Disability Fat]

I think you will find that this is not the law, that rape-by-deception is a far broader concept and is rare and unsettled even in much clearer cases (e.g., entering a dark room and pretending to be a different person altogether), and that even legal theory struggles with the notion, both generally and even more so in the trans context. All of that ^ is the situation worldwide, for the most part.

The struggle is both theoretical and practical. We do, after all, rely on fraud theory in laws addressing pecuniary loss as a result of the fraud, but generally speaking rarely extend that concept to bodily autonomy. (Even if legislators could agree on the concept, defining scope and retaining theoretical consistency is exceptionally difficult - and that means efforts would be exceptionally vulnerable to challenge or outright disregard.).

Barring some outliers and one-offs here or there, that (lack of rape-by-deception laws) is the state of the law today - again, not even limited to gender/sex deception (even moreso deception by omission), but to the concept at all. Even in jurisdictions with purported rape-by-deception laws, you have to look at how rape is defined, what type of fraud is covered (inducement or factum), and the circumstances in which it applies (e.g., you might find a state that covers it only in the case of someone pretending to be a woman's husband). You won't find what you've asserted.

You can say you think it should be legally considered criminal rape by deception to fail to reveal that one is not the sex they present themselves to be, or to lie about it actively, but that's just, like, your opinion, man.

If trans people are arrogant enough to lie about their sex and/or transition status, they shouldn't be surprised when the victim retaliates. Not only can it be infuriating to be deceived in such a manner, but I can see it being traumatizing. As an example, let's say it's a lesbian who was a victim of sexual assault or rape by the opposite sex. They, for whatever reason, perceive this potential hook up or partner as being the sex they're seeking, only to find it's an MTF. Not only would the shock of being tricked or pressured or coerced by the MTF potentially trigger PTSD and a fight/flight reaction and the violation of her safety (she can perceive this lie as a gate to assault/rape and react accordingly), but this MTF would also be grossly violating her sexuality. Unfortunately, as you've stated, this likely wouldn't hold up in court as rape by deception, but would be a perfect example of it.

Would that, however, be possible to charge as sexual assault or harassment, or possibly another charge?

 

[Simon]

Another day, another harvest of zippertits!


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Too early to tell how bad the scaring will be, but placement is weird. We get the usual flat-as-a-board look. I like how the butcher literally DREW a pair of tits on him with those scars.

Why are her nipples on her waist???

 

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

GO FOR PINK!

An absolutely insane troon rant about vaginas.

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GO FOR PINK! PINK=WOMAN! YOUR PUSSY MUST BE PINK!

bUt I tHOUghT aLL VaGInas WeRE DiFFerEnt!?!?!?

A fucking piece of shit TROON LY-ING (but let's face it...none of them pass--even the FTMs) are using their teflon troon shield and the troon trend in a severe power imbalance to LIE, COERCE, MANIPULATE, and leverage GUILT, SHAME, and FEAR against their VICTIM. VICTIM. VICTIM VICTIM VICTIM VICTIM.

1000% agree. Which is precisely why Black Troons are so quick to out someone, or at least hold it as black(ironic)mail. It being rape, nah chief.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Which would be pretty fucking cruel, considering what he has just been through. If anyone needs some opiates, it’s probably a newborn baby.

(We don’t know, since no baby has ever actually said what it feels like to be born, but there are good reason to believe that it’s quite painful.)

Fun fact: until very recent memory, it was believed that the neonatal nervous system was too immature to meaningfully perceive pain.

Spoiler: Horrifying tangent

This meant that newborns were often expected to undergo painful, invasive procedures, including surgery, with no anesthesia or pain relief. It wasn't until 1987, following the publication of a landmark paper (full text available here) by Dr. Kanwaljeet "Sunny" Anand and Dr. Paul Hickey in the New England Journal of Medicine that the American Academy of Pediatrics made an official statement of support for anesthesia in neonates undergoing surgery.

Despite evidence of a physiological stress response to pain in human neonates, the underlying mechanism is unclear, and the use of general anesthesia in the neonatal age cohort remains surprisingly controversial.

It's wild to read older papers discussing surgical techniques in neonates and come across a line like, "no anesthesia was used". It just seems so barbaric, certainly not one of our finest hours as a species.

 

[Radion_Godiva]

User Ceryliae has a super scrotum stink-ditch that looks like it healed into a J shape instead of the usual amhole. Butcher was Dr. Sinclair.

This is one of the most scar-ridden jobs I've seen and he's likely been picking at it or scratching like crazy. It is also weird how his left deflated testicle seems to have more meat than the other half of his amhole. He probably ripped his hole into the extended slit or something to get that shape.
It seems many troons have trouble saying it'll look better since it has been nearly 3 months since his butchery. He does get one pity "progress" comments at least. (A)
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Serethen
Thats a lot of scarring. Im assuming itll fade over time?

beanieweenie5214
Why is this being down voteddownvoted? They're not being hateful or anything.

SadElvenMermaid
because of its bluntness?
because thats a persons body, private parts, that theyre talking about, and something they may be stuck with forever?
this is blunt too

Catnipisjustweed
Well it was an objective statement. If you were not prepared to get comments like these, you wouldnt post here.

tessthismess
“That’s a lot of scarring” is literally not an objective statement. It’s an opinion.

SadElvenMermaid
should probably make it a little more clear that this subreddit isn't for care and consideration then, considering we're talking objectively about real surgeries real people who upload their own results have
the statement is also a bit loaded with implication. like "hey if that's me i hope i dont have that much scarring" or at least that's where i see my insecurity.

Catnipisjustweed
Well in my opinion, you should get objective answers, as they can sonetimes even help you seek out a doctor again in case of medical problems. Especially with surgeries there shouldnt be too much hugboxing as people might tell you wrong things that can come back to you in the future.

He may be coping a bit since he barely brings up much besides "I no longer have any pain"
Usually the weirdos talk about depth, orgasms or the dilating pain.
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leshpar
Its hard to tell exactly how it'll look once everything is healed, but its definitely making good progress! How exactly are you dealing with the pain and does it effect walking around, sitting, or sleeping? How do you handle everyday tasks?

Ceryliae
I no longer have any pain whatsoever

Spoiler: amhole

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Dios mio! I see the Virgin Mary in this amHole. sacridiculous.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Re: Tard Whisperer (reply function not working)

That’s an excellent writeup. His story highlights just how privileged some of these troons are. The average person cannot afford to take extensive periods off from work, to travel to foreign countries and shell out tens of thousands of dollars for surgeries, spend weeks in recovery, then later on decide to pay for the surgery to get reversed. Meanwhile, he is cheered on by troons and their ilk for “becoming his true self.”

He says he doesn’t regret it, but meanwhile he says he would’ve been fine had he not transitioned.

Some of those surgeries are so strange. I mean, teeth lengthening? He looked fine beforehand. Every surgery made him look uglier. He had issues with the result of so many of them. A bunch of them went wrong, like the bolt-on chest implants. In the end, he puts all of the blame on everyone but himself. It is the doctors fault for giving him a bad result, the troons for lying, etc. etc. He is the one that underwent the surgery. No one forced him. He is angry at Kamol, yet Kamol gave him exactly what he asked for. Also, despite decrying troon dishonesty about surgeries, he still perpetuates these lies by not rejecting SRS altogether. He also complains that the surgeries are like torture, but I can’t feel any sympathy because he is always eager to go under the knife again afterwards.

He seemed to think after each surgery, he would finally be comfortable in his body. What he didn’t realize is that you cannot cure mental illness by changing your body. The result is never as good as they intend. Even if they got surgery that perfectly fit their idea of what they should look like, who is to say that their mental illness wont change later on to desire a different body shape? I am not sure if that last point makes any sense with how I worded it.

It seems like his transition was a way of him trying to cope with some sort of unaddressed childhood trauma. Does he mention being abused anywhere in his digital footprint?



In one post he said he convinced his ex-partner to go to Tijuana and to get his own injections. How does a person develop such a sick fetish in the first place? I feel like these people with extreme fetish body modifications are always living in Washington State and San Francisco, California. I am not sure how they can be functioning members of society if they have to waddle around with the equivalent of two ostrich eggs in their pants. You can’t even go in public like that. What if a child were to see?

I also don’t doubt for a second that he has abused drugs.

I interpreted that as a different partner as he specifically said, if I remember correctly, that he didn't start the silicone injections until after his first "marriage" ended. Could be wrong, or we could just be dealing with another example of his inconsistent narratives.

 

[Safir]

You can say you think it should be legally considered criminal rape by deception to fail to reveal that one is not the sex they present themselves to be, or to lie about it actively, but that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Worldwide it's a mess, but there's precedent in bongland. Brits aren't usually the most consistent with regards to sentencing (or should I say consistent but in a bad way), but all women who tricked other women or girls into having sex with them by pretending to be men/boys were found guilty. I'm not a lolyer so I'm quoting charges as bong rags give them.

• 2012: Gemma Barker (19), victims aged 15 and 16 reported fraud when one of them thought she got raped by deception by the other's "boyfriend". 2.5 years for sexual assault. No troonshield.
• 2013: Christine Wilson (25), victims aged 15 and 15. Probation and registry listing for sexual fraud but no charges for assaulting children. Troons complained about both. Gender identity disorder. Pled guilty.
• 2013: Justine McNally (17), victim aged 16. 3 years for sexual assault by penetration (no consent due to fraud). Weird case because she's been in a "relationship" with the victim since 13 and wanted to get an arm sausage to live together happily ever after so must have obviously been troon-groomed herself. Implied troonshield but had a lesbian sidepiece.
• 2015: Gayle Newland (25), victim aged 25. 8 years for sexual assault, reduced to 6 on retrial. No troonshield.
• 2016: Jennifer Staines (23), 3, victims aged 12, ??, 17. 3 years 3 months for sexual assault, assault by penetration, possession of an indecent photo. No troonshield.
• 2020: Gemma Watts (21), 4 victims aged 13, 14, 14, 16. 8 years for assault by penetration, meeting a child following sexual grooming, sexual assault. No troonshield.

Takeaways:

• none of the perps pretended to be a real person;
• some victims were of age;
• some cases didn't involve plastic dicks and thus didn't hinge on the lack of consent for a specific sex act;
• only one didn't pass whatsoever, others fooled victims, victims' parents, friends, and cops;
• all perps were legally women, none had a GRC;
• troonshield worked but only in combination with admitting guilt.

So far in the UK, at least without a GRC, deception with regards to sex is still rape assault (bong rape is male on female, p in v only).

 

[Fapcop]

Fun fact: until very recent memory, it was believed that the neonatal nervous system was too immature to meaningfully perceive pain.

Spoiler: Horrifying tangent

This meant that newborns were often expected to undergo painful, invasive procedures, including surgery, with no anesthesia or pain relief. It wasn't until 1987, following the publication of a landmark paper (full text available here) by Dr. Kanwaljeet "Sunny" Anand and Dr. Paul Hickey in the New England Journal of Medicine that the American Academy of Pediatrics made an official statement of support for anesthesia in neonates undergoing surgery.

Despite evidence of a physiological stress response to pain in human neonates, the underlying mechanism is unclear, and the use of general anesthesia in the neonatal age cohort remains surprisingly controversial.

It's wild to read older papers discussing surgical techniques in neonates and come across a line like, "no anesthesia was used". It just seems so barbaric, certainly not one of our finest hours as a species.

A baby’s skull literally get squeezed out of shape by the pelvis bone during birth.

You see many babies get circumcised without ever crying.

It’s hard to say what an infant feels since they can’t communicate, but it’s not unreasonable to think that their still developing nervous system perceives pain differently.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

bUt I tHOUghT aLL VaGInas WeRE DiFFerEnt!?!?!?

All Amholes are different and do different horrifying crap.

 

[AfghanBlue]

GUYS!

We gotta stop using the M word!

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lol, once i found out that Dwarfs hate being called midget, and refer to it as "the M word". it is their Nigger .
I truly thought it was like, just a different gens of dwarf.

anyway.
WHO'DA THUNK

Spoiler: Unexpected negative Post-Op feelings

I just gotta get this out of my system...

Even though I spent years in therapy and doing in-depth research on physical and emotional outcomes of top surgery, and wanted it ever since I learned about it, I never expected I could feel this way years post op.

Yes my dysphoria is a lot better now, but in exchange I started experiencing so much debilitating shame that has basically canceled out all the positives. I literally feel like I SHOULDN'T enjoy my body. It isn't just a feeling or just a thought, it's a core belief, and I even have a whole host of reasons to back it up.

Pre-op, in my pros and cons list, I struggled to envision significant cons other than complications. I did not foresee ever developing this mental state. I thought I had gotten rid of trans-related shame long ago. Over time, I have learned about acceptance in life, and I see now that I could have just coped with the potentially lifelong chest dysphoria. It would have even been easy compared to living with this... believing deep down that I should be ashamed post-op (but not pre-op).

In all my years of trans experience, I've never heard of anything like this happening suddenly POST transition. I see most people sharing how they are happy post-op, and I get confused. Like maybe this means there's a chance I don't have to feel this bad? But I believe in the most absolute sense that I should feel this bad. I know this post is upsetting and shitty, but therapy isn't helping and I feel completely hopeless.

[Note: I will not engage with comments suggesting I might not really be trans or that I try detransitioning]