Please Stop Talking / Perilous StoryTelling / Sirmeowmusic / Erasesomeone - Discussion of an increasingly irrelevant podcast who kicked out one of their founding members and the furry bitch who runs it.

What are Shammy's behavioral issues?

  • He's been caught grooming minors and the hosts are trying to cover it up.

    Votes: 40 31.3%
  • He's politically incorrect and the hosts have burnt all bridges with him.

    Votes: 21 16.4%
  • He's mentally ill and borderline suicidal and the hosts barely managed to get him to seek help.

    Votes: 26 20.3%
  • He went on a massive schizoid rant and burnt all bridges with PST as well as other associates.

    Votes: 41 32.0%

  • Total voters
    128
  • Poll closed .
Because as much as they claim to hate the idea of being YouTube celebrities, at some point you begin to exhibit the traits of one. And one of those traits seems to be seeing your online "friends" more like business partners. You scratch their back, and they scratch yours. But once they fuck up something, you have to take your brand into consideration. Do you risk loosing your audience cause you associate with someone "problematic", or do you do the safe option and simply cut them out of your life and possibly speak out against them.
 
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Because as much as they claim to hate the idea of being YouTube celebrities, at some point you begin to exhibit the traits of one. And one of those traits seems to be seeing your online "friends" more like business partners. You scratch their back, and they scratch yours. But once they fuck up something, you have to take your brand into consideration. Do you risk loosing your audience cause you associate with someone "problematic", or do you do the safe option and simply cut them out of ylur life and possibly speak out against them.
"You're The Average Of The Five People You Spend The Most Time With" - Jim Rohn
 
Because as much as they claim to hate the idea of being YouTube celebrities, at some point you begin to exhibit the traits of one. And one of those traits seems to be seeing your online "friends" more like business partners. You scratch their back, and they scratch yours. But once they fuck up something, you have to take your brand into consideration. Do you risk loosing your audience cause you associate with someone "problematic", or do you do the safe option and simply cut them out of your life and possibly speak out against them.
There is also the fact that people that seek fame and popularity, which are most YouTubers, are not good people most of the time already. Like if you listened to Mandalore and Avery talking on Twitch or on the podcast about their stories, they sound best of friends and then one day boom, he stops streaming with him, unfollows him everywhere and stop streaming with him. Either Avery made something so heinous that Mandalore couldn't be friends with him anymore regardless or he truly cares more about his reputation and contacts then friendships
 
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What is formating?

Yea, Shams taken the full plunge. No time to pull up and too many voices saying to dive in. I'm still lurking the server. Which has a small minecraft server now. Nothing worth mentioning about it.

I'm relatively new here, obviously, so anyone have CTRL+F reccomendations for the discord search? I'll see what I can do.
 
Yea, Shams taken the full plunge. No time to pull up and too many voices saying to dive in. I'm still lurking the server. Which has a small minecraft server now. Nothing worth mentioning about it.

I'm relatively new here, obviously, so anyone have CTRL+F reccomendations for the discord search? I'll see what I can do.

All the vocal sessions in the world won't give Avery a female voice, and that discord. It's just nothing but delusion and encouraging him to go over the edge, what a bunch of assholes.

The only thing I'd be curious about would be the Mandalore & podcast crew fallout, but if it was mentioned in the discord, it was probably removed by Avery.
 
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What is formating?

Yea, Shams taken the full plunge. No time to pull up and too many voices saying to dive in. I'm still lurking the server. Which has a small minecraft server now. Nothing worth mentioning about it.

I'm relatively new here, obviously, so anyone have CTRL+F reccomendations for the discord search? I'll see what I can do.
Avery, you will never sound like a woman, your voice is too masculine to sound anything remotely feminine. Imagine being a patron for his shit and realizing that money is not going to improved content, but HRT and Vocal "training".
 
Avery, you will never sound like a woman, your voice is too masculine to sound anything remotely feminine. Imagine being a patron for his shit and realizing that money is not going to improved content, but HRT and Vocal "training".
Imagine being a patron for any youtuber. They deserve starvation.
 
There's a point when you look at stuff like this and ask "What COULD have been done to stop this from happening?". An obvious one is Mandy and the crew being much more upfront with what caused the fallout and Avery not shutting himself alone by any modicum of socialization outside of the internet, but what else is there? You have to imagine what his room looks like, what HE looks like now. Honestly, that's not an image I want to know. Why, Avery? Why didn't you just take a break from everything?
 
There's a point when you look at stuff like this and ask "What COULD have been done to stop this from happening?". An obvious one is Mandy and the crew being much more upfront with what caused the fallout and Avery not shutting himself alone by any modicum of socialization outside of the internet, but what else is there? You have to imagine what his room looks like, what HE looks like now. Honestly, that's not an image I want to know. Why, Avery? Why didn't you just take a break from everything?
Did we ever really got to know what truly caused the complete breakdown in the group?
 
Why, Avery? Why didn't you just take a break from everything?
Because I notice that with all of these moderately successful YouTube personalities, they never can take a REAL break. They are too terminally online that there idea of taking a break is just not posting anything. But they will still check their social media and maybe converse with certain people privately. I stopped caring about Avery (hell I never really cared for him that much to begin with) a while ago, but I'd imagine at some point he started building up his hug box after he tried to get help. And of course those kind of people don't believe in the word "no".
 
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This is really weird cause I listened to the podcast ever so often and did like Avery's stuff. So I got confused when I noticed that there was a cut off point where he just stopped appearing and heard no real word about where he went. Then Avery turned tranny (not very convincingly of course)

I'll be completely honest, it was saddening to see him do that cause I know the slope its going down, when his Elden Ring review had that tiny remark about body type A and B, I knew that was the start of the end. I also know that he'll start making it a big deal going forward, his stray review tried to make it a little funny ha ha ending gag of him suddenly coming out. But that was basically in the heat of the moment and I know he'll focus on it more in newer videos.

Looking back I absolutely feel it was either super depression or rage against the other hosts that got him sacked, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did diddle a kid.
 
Did we ever really got to know what truly caused the complete breakdown in the group?

No. We don't know what caused it, we just have some vague statements on twitter and then Avery was never mentioned by them again. But the speculation goes that he said something that upset SirMeow ( as if that is hard to do ) possibly, while he was drunk.

The whole thing just seems so childish, that at no point during any of this. Did any of them reach out to the other, act like an adult and go " Hey I fucked up, said some things that shouldn't have been said, I'm sorry ". Or some attempt at saving their friendship.
 
All the vocal sessions in the world won't give Avery a female voice, and that discord. It's just nothing but delusion and encouraging him to go over the edge, what a bunch of assholes.

The only thing I'd be curious about would be the Mandalore & podcast crew fallout, but if it was mentioned in the discord, it was probably removed by Avery.
I wish vocal training worked like trannies think it does. I'd love to train myself to have the voice of Tony Jay.
 
No. We don't know what caused it, we just have some vague statements on twitter and then Avery was never mentioned by them again. But the speculation goes that he said something that upset SirMeow ( as if that is hard to do ) possibly, while he was drunk.

The whole thing just seems so childish, that at no point during any of this. Did any of them reach out to the other, act like an adult and go " Hey I fucked up, said some things that shouldn't have been said, I'm sorry ". Or some attempt at saving their friendship.
This doesn't explain why Mandalore would cut all ties with him and unfollow him or why his apology would have to be Public like that tbh.

I believe it would have to been something more grave or at least constant to cause such a breakdown, particularly considering Avery had moved close to Mandalore to be his neighbor because their deep friendship. This stuff doesn't crumble over night.
 
Because I notice that with all of these moderately successful YouTube personalities, they never can take a REAL break. They are too terminally online that there idea of taking a break is just not posting anything. But they will still check their social media and maybe converse with certain people privately. I stopped caring about Avery (hell I never really cared for him that much to begin with) a while ago, but I'd imagine at some point he started building up his hug box after he tried to get help. And of course those kind of people don't believe in the word "no".
I feel like a broken record saying this but, Avery not only doesn't know no, but doesn't understand you cannot pay Peter by robbing Paul. He is the poster boy for Addictive Personality disorder, and if it's not booze, it's cocaine. If it's not cocaine, it's estrogen and social media. There's no middle, it's girl balls to the walls and my HRT is magic.
 
No. We don't know what caused it, we just have some vague statements on twitter and then Avery was never mentioned by them again. But the speculation goes that he said something that upset SirMeow ( as if that is hard to do ) possibly, while he was drunk.

The whole thing just seems so childish, that at no point during any of this. Did any of them reach out to the other, act like an adult and go " Hey I fucked up, said some things that shouldn't have been said, I'm sorry ". Or some attempt at saving their friendship.
I said this multiple times but i dont think thats it.
David is a massive bitch but that also means he is too much of a bitch to kick avery out himself

Ed also really hated avery by the end but he is a generally chill person so he wouldnt try to kick him out either

To me the only possible explanation is that he did something really bad to one of the others and then David and Ed took the chance to kick him out

The reason why i think is that both Ed and David said there was another thing besides the things they complained about

And based on nothing i think he did something to mandy , they lived in the same building so they interacted a lot but the reason why i think this is mandy going to their irl yearly meeting and it's implied they never saw his face before so meeting them irl was a big jump and it happened after avery left so maybe he showed up as a token of gratitude ?
 
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