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[Markass the Worst]

New Daily Rake articles.

https://dailyrake.ca/2023/01/18/psa-deboonking-the-traffic-soyboys-part-11-no-really-build-more-ing-roads/

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https://dailyrake.ca/2023/01/21/psa-deboonking-the-traffic-soyboys-part-12-just-one-more-train-bro/

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Goes over the r/fuckcars post of trains in Mumbai being extremely crowded and congested. The redditor slapfighting was hilarious because these people have big-brained themselves into the brain damaged idea of "induced demand" that says building more infrastructure is bad because people will use it. But building more infrastructure is the proper solution here, except just like freeways you'd have to tear down buildings to do it.

Also points out the 20 lane highway in Myanmar being a counterexample to ""induced demand"".

https://dailyrake.ca/2023/01/24/psa-deboonking-the-traffic-soyboys-part-14-the-advantages-of-fixed-source-and-destination-infrastructure/

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https://dailyrake.ca/2023/01/25/psa-deboonking-the-traffic-soyboys-part-14-mass-transit-the-partial-trip-problem-the-spacing-problem-and-the-wildlife-problem/

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I like this one because he covers a guy who decided to take the bus in Tulsa, Oklahoma and all the buses were completely fucking empty except for him. Seems like the city is burning money on them under the assumption that ridership will just appear out of thin air and fill up the seats when that isn't remotely the case. Because induced demand is a retarded fucking concept.

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Jason when the Netherlands builds a car parking garage under the canal to remove street parking: mad, makes a video going over why it's ackshually bad and expensive

Jason when the Netherlands builds an underwater bike parking garage: cool tourist attraction!


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As touched upon in the Daily Rake series, urbanists seem to have a weird penchant for thinking of infrastructure as places people will gather and hang out rather than places people use to get to their final destination, and they will criticize infrastructure that's "ugly" or "takes up too much space" for this (ie any car infrastructure).

 

[Bonesjones]

As touched upon in the Daily Rake series, urbanists seem to have a weird penchant for thinking of infrastructure as places people will gather and hang out rather than places people use to get to their final destination, and they will criticize infrastructure that's "ugly" or "takes up too much space" for this (ie any car infrastructure).

They don't think of things as being useful tools to enable their lifestyles, they think of them in terms of idealic romanticism. They want all the trappings of living in a safe, rich neighborhood, not realizing that 100 years ago most cities looked like how they think. They were just destroyed and run down on purpose through multifaceted decisions to fuck over the middle class.

All you have to do is look at places like Detroit, who in the early 20th century are full of parking garages with beautiful artwork in the architecture and murals on the walls and ceilings, to being a bombed out third world country.

 

[quaawaa]

Solve crime by making crime legal:


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The Underground has £1.5 Billion of income and £2.3 Billion of expenditures. Only in an urbanist's brain is that profitable. Also note the £684 million of funding that TfL gets from London's congestion charges. Other income is mainly subsidies.

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Totally not coombrains:


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/r/EnculerLesVoitures is the French version of /r/fuckcars and is a real subreddit.

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More support of violence against "carbrains" and their vehicles:


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Sure Jason, the pro-gas stove is totally the astroturfed side. It's not like the anti-gas stove propaganda came out of nowhere in the last month and governments started to propose bans for no reason...

 

[DavidS877]

Solve crime by making crime legal:
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The Underground has £1.5 Billion of income and £2.3 Billion of expenditures. Only in an urbanist's brain is that profitable. Also note the £684 million of funding that TfL gets from London's congestion charges. Other income is mainly subsidies.

What these people don't care about is that if you make the fares $0 then transit becomes simply a rolling homeless shelter, more so than it already is. Sure you get more riders but much fewer of those riders are going to be the ones who would normally be driving a car as they're all going to go back to driving instead of being harassed or stabbed.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Solve crime by making crime legal:
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Any argument justified solely "by definition" is a shitty argument.

Also sure, you can make fares free but infrastructure still costs money to run, and just burning money indefinitely running it for free sounds a lot more plausible to lead to bankruptcy or financial insolvency than all the retarded arguments about how suburbs will crumble in 30 years because their infrastructure is too expensive to maintain. (Or, when they don't crumble, move the goalposts and point to how one failing water system in one town is proof of suburbs' inherent financial insolvency.)

It's also a blatant double standard to subsidize 100% of transit when these same people throw a fit over 50% of driving being subsidized.

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The Underground has £1.5 Billion of income and £2.3 Billion of expenditures. Only in an urbanist's brain is that profitable. Also note the £684 million of funding that TfL gets from London's congestion charges. Other income is mainly subsidies.

Well technically you should also count the economic benefits of people being able to get around on transit, but these people never give the same benefit when they analyse car infrastructure so fuck them.

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Not surprised a tranny not only thinks about babys' genitals but also think that other people think about them too in regards to gender reveals.

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I would be more sympathetic to "property damage isn't violence" if these weren't the same people who have passed laws making misgendering, deadnaming and saying tranny legally and morally equivalent to actual violence.

But let's talk about actual, non-property violence like the type that regularly occurs on public transit such as people pushing others onto subway tracks. The Daily Rake today put out a good article covering this:

https://dailyrake.ca/2023/01/30/crazy-woman-pushes-other-woman-onto-subway-tracks-in-toronto/

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Last fall, a suspect was arrested after a man was pushed onto TTC tracks and hit by a train at Bloor-Yonge station the afternoon of Nov. 26.

One man with a package bumped another man and an argument started, police claimed at the time.

The man with the package was then allegedly pushed onto the tracks and hit by an oncoming train.

A 26-year-old man was arrested and charged with aggravated assault.

The victim was treated in hospital.

On Nov. 18, 2019, another rider escaped injury after a suspect tried to push them onto the tracks at Bathurst Station.

The victim was on the eastbound platform walking towards an exit when they were approached by a man who abruptly stepped in front of them.The attacker allegedly grabbed the victim by both arms and pushed them towards the tracks.The victim was able to break free, leave the station and contact police.The attacker also fled the station.

On June 18, 2018, 73-year-old Yosuke “Yoshi” Hayahara was killed after 56-year old John Reszetnik pushed him into the path of a train at Bloor-Yonge station.

Reszetnik pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in Jan. 2021 and was sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole for 14 years.

Apparently their proposal is to install protective walls and doors to prevent this from happening. For people who blame car accidents on traffic engineers, it's quite bizarre to never see them blame track shoving on a lack of policing or hell even judges who just give them a slap on the wrist and release them. As the Daily Rake points out, they can install all the walls and doors they want but that just means they'll move to stabbing them and all the other ways people of diversity can commit violence instead.

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Sure Jason, the pro-gas stove is totally the astroturfed side. It's not like the anti-gas stove propaganda came out of nowhere in the last month and governments started to propose bans for no reason...

Let's go over Climate Town's new video:

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So the thumbnail is "I am so sorry" because he fake apologises to two women from an astroturfed pro-natural gas org who turned out to never have been real. Ok. Then he brings up a couple more examples of astroturfing like this.

Not just a couple though, he also goes over how tobacco companies did this too. Then he cites John Oliver a/k/a current year faggot, well known bastion of being a reliable source (not). Then he goes over the numerous front groups controlled by the WSPA and blames them for stopping a Californian bill that would cut the amount of oil in half.

Similarly he claims the majority of Americans think climate change is real but all the legislation against it just keeps getting sidetracked by all this astroturfing (no consideration given to other explanations of why the legislation hasn't passed). He ends the video with a sponsor of some advocacy group and recommending the viewer to write a signature on behalf of them or something (and funding an advocacy group to get the laws you want passed or not passed is different from what he's been criticizing this whole video, because, uh...)

In conclusion his video doesn't seem relevant at all to what Jason and fatso are talking about, they can't seem to comprehend that real people might legitimately dislike the bullshit they're advocating for.

 

[CFC-12]

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If someone refers to themselves as a woman in the third person on reddit, there's an 80% chance they're trans. These deviants never pass up a chance to affirm that to themselves.

As touched upon in the Daily Rake series, urbanists seem to have a weird penchant for thinking of infrastructure as places people will gather and hang out rather than places people use to get to their final destination, and they will criticize infrastructure that's "ugly" or "takes up too much space" for this (ie any car infrastructure).

It's like they fundamentally misunderstand the purposes of infrastructure in the first place.
Also man that shit about "parking garages bad" just boils my piss. A legitimate solution to the land usage problem that would free more space in cities while still maintaining or even increasing current parking levels, while still reducing congestion. But nope, it's a bad thing solely because it would be good for cars. It really isn't about walkability or efficiently moving people around. At this point the entire argument has devolved into "car bad and car always bad" even when people have valid solutions or bring up real benefits to car usage. It's completely ideological.

Man the name "Not Just Bikes" is ironic. Should be "Not Just Bikes; Also Maybe Trains." Fuck cars, fuck buses, fuck planes, fuck the wrong kinds of trains, fuck motorcycles, fuck boats...

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Totally not coombrains:
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Why am I not surprised that r/fuckcars users prefer the receiving end?

 

[Kyuruma]

NJB et al are fucking faggots but I'll give them this on gas stoves/gas heating etc. Activists are overreacting like they always do but on the flip side I don't understand how anybody still romanticizes gas heating or stoves. Outside of specific niche instances (frigid cold where electric heating won't cut it etc) they are quickly becoming deprecated technology, which is a good thing. It's also provable fact that nat gas companies invest heavily into putting gas stoves into the brains of consumers as "the professional's choice, REAL cooks use gas".

It's a good point made insufferably painful to agree with because of the smug fudge packing retards who echo it.

 

[Corpun]

the locals aren't fond of his breed of transplant at all.

There is an entire subculture of shitlibs and bug people who see Europe as this progressive utopia that moves to these places because of the cushy online jobs they have. Anywhere they go they are fucking hated. There was an article posted on A&N about them a while ago focusing on a group living in Portugal or somewhere in Spain. Locals all fucking hated how ignorant and egocentric they were for not learning the local culture. I'm betting NJB is the same way and likely only knows Dutch on a basic level.

 

[quaawaa]

still romanticizes gas heating or stoves. Outside of specific niche instances (frigid cold where electric heating won't cut it etc) they are quickly becoming deprecated technology

Gas heating is more efficient than electric heating and heat pumps (the efficient form of electric heating) don’t work in cold climates.

Frigid cold isn’t a niche use case for heating.

 

[DavidS877]

Gas heating is more efficient than electric heating and heat pumps (the efficient form of electric heating) don’t work in cold climates.

Frigid cold isn’t a niche use case for heating.

Depends on what you mean by "cold climates", my air source unit is rated for 100% down to 10F. Ground source units can go far below that, for a far higher installed cost, but $40,000 is a small price to save the planet.(no, not really). I find it significantly less of a pain in the ass than dealing with wood or propane as rural areas don't have natural gas. Cut my own wood would be far cheaper, but purchased wood and propane and electric heat pump are pretty close in costs in my area, which does have cheap electricity.

Edit to add: Where I am the usual worst-case winter low is 25F... average low is 37F with apparently a record of 1F... once, with most records in the 15F range.

 

[CFC-12]

Gas heating is more efficient than electric heating and heat pumps (the efficient form of electric heating) don’t work in cold climates.

Heat pumps are honestly pretty cool from a technology standpoint but are really not all that effective for actually heating a structure. For those who don't know, a heat pump is essentially an air conditioner designed to run in reverse. Instead of blowing cool air inside and hot air outside, it more or less does the opposite. It "scavenges" thermal energy from the outside air and then pumps it into your home. The only cost to you is the electricity to run the pump, no fuel required.

Admittedly some really neat engineering going on there, but really not practical for people living in Northern latitudes simply because cold air ain't got much heat in it. The lower the temperature, the harder the heat pump has to run and the less efficient it becomes. They pretty much stop working entirely around like -15C. You could probably get away with one if you lived in the South or somewhere with mild winters, but it's gonna be pricey to run anywhere it stays below zero all winter. They're really more of a supplemental measure to conventional forms of home heating. Not to mention that in the summertime heat pumps just work like regular, energy-hungry air conditioners, but the urbanists tend to gloss over that.

For your average person living in cold parts of North America, natural gas is still absolutely the cheapest and most reliable way to heat in the winter, especially with electricity prices increasing in recent years.

 

[quaawaa]

Depends on what you mean by "cold climates", my air source unit is rated for 100% down to 10F. Ground source units can go far below that, for a far higher installed cost, but $40,000 is a small price to save the planet.(no, not really). I find it significantly less of a pain in the ass than dealing with wood or propane as rural areas don't have natural gas. Cut my own wood would be far cheaper, but purchased wood and propane and electric heat pump are pretty close in costs in my area, which does have cheap electricity.

Edit to add: Where I am the usual worst-case winter low is 25F... average low is 37F with apparently a record of 1F... once, with most records in the 15F range.

You don’t live in a cold area. Large parts of the US go below 0 F every winter.

 

[DumbDude43]

The responses to the pro-police replies are cute. "Lol just pay drivers more + more benefits sweety" I'm pretty sure you could pay them more than big tech and people still wouldn't bother applying because of the shit they have to put up with.

at some point it'd make more sense to use the money to add a permanent security guard to every bus instead of increasing salary in an attempt to lure drivers
but of course we can't have that cause security would step in when niggers start nigging and das racis!

 

[LaxerBRO]

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The roads are funded by taxes on gasoline. What they want is to tax car owners twice. Once for publicly funded mass transit, then once more for the gas tax.

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Public transit, especially in urban areas, prohibits carrying of weapons. I will be the only one shooting.

I was between cars and had no where to go. He swing the bike lock in an aggressive manner and broke my side mirror. I was afraid he was going to smash my window and continue his attack.

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Sure Jason, the pro-gas stove is totally the astroturfed side. It's not like the anti-gas stove propaganda came out of nowhere in the last month and governments started to propose bans for no reason...

I have no issue with people going with gas, electric, or induction. It's their choice.

What I am opposed to is the government regulating what I can use.

Regarding Technology Connections, the man is autistic. I am not kidding on this. He did a newer video on gas stoves recently and addressed some criticisms. However, I don't think he fully understands the lack of temperature response that plagues electric stoves as I think the guy eats tendies and ramen.

Personally, I don't cook meals that are too complicated but I already seen the advantage of the faster temperature response of gas vs electric. Induction is probably better, but again their is a cost factor. Furthermore, with the push of these fucking bugmen to live in cities, especially apartments, I don't believe most will choose induction over plain electric as the cost would cause rents to rise. This would be compounded with policies these faggots are likely to support like rent control.

Hey FAGGOTS, the landlord isn't going to rewire the entire apartment complex and buy induction stoves for everyone when rent increases is capped a 5%.

P.S. I do believe that gas stoves could produce some small particulate matter PM2.5 due to their use but the health effects of it being on perhaps five hours a week is negligible. Personally, I would be more concerned with living in a fucking city and that air quality.

 

[DavidS877]

You don’t live in a cold area. Large parts of the US go below 0 F every winter.

Yea, but no one lives in a place like that, that would be horrible.

 

[singlele]

Part of me wants to make a parody of the "American culture is centered around niggers" copypasta but with cars instead of niggers and post it to /r/fuckcars and see how long it takes for them to notice

Spoiler: The copypasta, for anyone curious

American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Eddie Murphy while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers

 

[quaawaa]

More hatred of pedestrian bridges:


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Poor people aren't allowed on bridges:

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Racist boomers killed public transit:

This is incredibly stupid and dangerous. The road is 60 km/h (~40 mph):


More fear of responsibility:

Think of the disabled:


So if people use the bridge elevators, then they won't be pissed filled. What's the issue?

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The article mentions that 5000 pedestrians cross, but 35,000 cars drive through every day. It's the right descision to build the bridge instead of slowing down traffic.

On a typical weekday, close to 5,000 pedestrians cross the road at this location, whilst an average of 35,000 cars pass through the intersection between 7am and 7pm Monday to Friday.

They also did everything these people wanted:

Other features to support the pedestrian bridge work include:

• lifts to accommodate up to 21 passengers, as well as scooters, bicycles, wheelchairs and prams
• bicycle parking facilities including an undercover bike shed at the BCHC
• two ‘power sliding’ gates and pedestrian fencing to prohibit pedestrian access onto Pittwater Road
• an additional shelter at the northbound bus stops to improve existing coverage

They built a bike garage, pedestrian walkway, and bus stops. They didn't build a single piece of car infrastructure, but because they didn't slow down cars for no reason, that's proof to /r/notjustbikes that they're "carbrained".

The other side of the street is also a mall's parking lot, so most of the pedestrians are likely also drivers:

Yellow line is the old crosswalk, red line is the new bridge.

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[Lobster Cult High Priest]

at some point it'd make more sense to use the money to add a permanent security guard to every bus instead of increasing salary in an attempt to lure drivers
but of course we can't have that cause security would step in when niggers start nigging and das racis!

Even if they hire Ghetto Blacks as the security guards them doing their job at preventing chimp outs will also be called White Supremacy. See the Tyre Nickels case.

 

[Meriasek]

Anyone know ActionKid? Just a harmless YouTube who does walking, cycling and general urban exploration videos. He lived in NYC his entire life and did nice videos where he just walked or biked through various parts with some commentary. I liked it, gave a good view of the city and he never got into politics and followed traffic laws as a cyclist. Never served about road infrastructure as far as I know, just made his kind of content. Last year he finally moved out of NYC to South Florida, and guess why? Politics, homelessness, and crimes. The mentally ill are filling the streets and the city became unlivable.

He still has a rather positive look at the city, but it's nice to see people being honest about why they leave these cities. No city is walkable when politics let the city deteriote like that, and no amount of cycling lanes or banning cars is gonna change that.