Slapfight between TrulyMan and Ukraine Happening regulars

[TrulyMan]

I didn't make myself clear, the former Ukraine is just going to the buffer, not as a nation but a territory.

Even if by some chance it survives as a nation in one form or another, its been destroyed, with most of its population gone, a wrecked economy and the most production areas of its territory gone.

Ah, alright, so you are for splitting it up.
I doubt those Ukranians who don't feel very warmly about Poles or Russians will be very happy about that though. Like all those that are dying now, even if they are dying for false idols to an extent. And many more millions will survive than die, unless it comes to a war few if any of us will survive.

So what about them and their feelings? If the Donbass people matter, if American lives and money matter, why don't Ukranians matter?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Ah, alright, so you are for splitting it up.
I doubt those Ukranians who don't feel very warmly about Poles or Russians will be very happy about that though. Like all those that are dying now, even if they are dying for false idols to an extent. And many more millions will survive than die, unless it comes to a war few if any of us will survive.

Let me correct you; I'm not for splitting it up, or anything else. It's not going to be split up, it will be occupied and controlled by Russia. That's the logical goal here, and what will probably happen. Poland may look to recover its former territories of Lwów and Galicia, which Russia indicated it was fine with.

So what about them and their feelings?

When have people's feeling ever mattered to our overlords?

if American lives and money matter, why don't Ukranians matter?

Because Ukraine is not my problem, hon. It's not America's problem. My money matters because its mine. My land matters because its mine. The only reason the US is propping it up and provoking WW3 is because America's oligarchs and crooks planned on expanding their operations eastward, and Russia and her oligarchs said lol no.

I don't know if you are naive or being deliberately obtuse.

 

[TrulyMan]

Let me correct you; I'm not for splitting it up, or anything else. It's not going to be split up, it will be occupied and controlled by Russia. That's the logical goal here, and what will probably happen. Poland may look to recover its former territories of Lwów and Galicia, which Russia indicated it was fine with.

When have people's feeling ever mattered to our overlords?

Because Ukraine is not my problem, hon. It's not America's problem. My money matters because its mine. My land matters because its mine. The only reason the US is propping it up and provoking WW3 is because America's oligarchs and crooks planned on expanding their operations eastward, and Russia and her oligarchs said lol no.

I don't know if you are naive or being deliberately obtuse.

So they don't matter to our overlords, but do they matter to you? I know "you" are not Ukranian. But dont you feel wrong wishing for the death of a nation? Just cause it might save you some money, or what ever.

Also when has Russia indicated that it is fine with this?
And yeah Oligarchs are gonna oligarch, so you get that, yet you are completely okay with it fucking an entire people over because it puts some sticks in your oligarchs wheels for a short while.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

So they don't matter to our overlords, but do they matter to you? I know "you" are not Ukranian. But dont you feel wrong wishing for the death of a nation? Just cause it might save you some money, or what ever.

Also when has Russia indicated that it is fine with this?
And yeah Oligarchs are gonna oligarch, so you get that, yet you are completely okay with it fucking an entire people over because it puts some sticks in your oligarchs wheels for a short while.

Hi nukelol, weren't you threadbanned?

 

[TrulyMan]

Hi nukelol, weren't you threadbanned?

So you can't face your own inner conflicting reality so instead I'm a sock. That's okay I guess, it's a common trope around here and elsewhere.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

So you can't face your own conflicting reality, that's okay it's a common trope around here and elsewhere I guess.

This is a thread for the discussion of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, not my feels, or yours. If you want to have a feels discussion make a thread in say, Deep Thoughts.

 

[TrulyMan]

This is a thread for the discussion of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, not my feels, or yours. If you want to have a feels discussion make a thread in say, Deep Thoughts.

"Muh feels" are not your business cope, okay.
Nothing I said had to do about feels.

If you know the war is between two oligarchial substructures of the worlds elites and you hate those people and their schemes then you're being extremely obtuse not to realize that sacrificing an entire people and their dream of nationhood just to see one substructures plan fail in favour of the other is the wrong thing to wish for.

 

[WhiskeyJack]

"Muh feels" are not your business cope, okay.
Nothing I said had to do about feels.

If you know the war is between two oligarchial substructures of the worlds elites and you hate those people and their schemes then you're being extremely obtuse not to realize that sacrificing an entire people and their dream of nationhood just to see one substructures plan fail in favour of the other is the wrong thing to wish for.

You directly asked him “dont you feel wrong wishing for the death of a nation?”

 

[TrulyMan]

You directly asked him “dont you feel wrong wishing for the death of a nation?”

It's just a word. Might as well replace it with "do you think its wrong wishing for the death of a nation".
Its still not about feels. Its not like Im asking "do you feel sorry for all the dead children?" even though that's certainly a legitimate and relevant question to ask in a thread about a war.
I'm asking from the rational perspective of nationhood and peoples and their right to exist and specifically in relation to various oligarchial cliques and their moneymaking schemes.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

"Muh feels" are not your business cope, okay.
Nothing I said had to do about feels.

If you know the war is between two oligarchial substructures of the worlds elites and you hate those people and their schemes then you're being extremely obtuse not to realize that sacrificing an entire people and their dream of nationhood just to see one substructures plan fail in favour of the other is the wrong thing to wish for.

You started out by asking what I thought would be the result of this war. I told you what my conclusions of what the probable outcome would likely be.

You then started asking "How do you feel about the poor holhols?" Again, if you want to argue the morality of a given viewpoint of this clusterfuck, that's for a different thread, but keep in mind the US is run by people like this:

and that's who supports Ukraine. You have no moral standing when the other side has no problem with causing the deaths of millions of children to advance its interests, and that's who you side with.

It's just a word. Might as well replace it with "do you think its wrong wishing for the deat of a nation".

Words have specific meanings. Looks like you should take a remedial English class

Its still not about feels. Its not like Im asking "do you feel sorry for all the dead children?" even though that's certainly a legitimate and relevant question to ask in a thread about a war.
I'm asking from the rational perspective of nationhood and peoples and their right to exist and specifically in relation to various oligarchial cliques and their moneymaking schemes.

This is a common logical fallacy called begging the question. It's used to derail a discussion. That was not stated anywhere in my answer.
That said, now I do wish they would all die and go away, along with their simps.

 

[TrulyMan]

You started out by asking what I thought would be the result of this war. I told you what my conclusions of what the probable outcome would likely be.

You then started asking "How do you feel about the poor holhols?" Again, if you want to argue the morality of a given viewpoint of this clusterfuck, that's for a different thread, but keep in mind the US is run by people like this:

and that's who supports Ukraine. You have no moral standing when the other side has no problem with causing the deaths of millions of children to advance its interests, and that's who you side with.


Words have specific meanings. Looks like you should take a remedial English class


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This is a a common logical fallacy called begging the question. It's used to derail a discussion. That was not stated anywhere in my answer.
That said, now I do wish they would all die and go away, along with their simps.

You're really going to keep spinning on this semantics nonsense?
First of all, like I said, this is a discussion thread about a war. Our feelings about the war are relevant.
But my question was not about "feels" as it is generally understood to mean online.
Anyway, like you did earlier, let me "clarify". Or rather rephrase myself.


Don't you think its wrong to wish for the death of a nation?

And then the rest of that post of mine. Including the parts about oligarchs and their interconnected but sometimes conflicting interests.

Are you now able to face the music when it's not about your feelings but your thoughts? Or is that too much of a clusterfuck inside of you as well?


(And yes, I'd strangle that bitch Albright in your video myself if I could get away with it, though I think she might be dead now anyway).

 

[WhiskeyJack]

It's just a word. Might as well replace it with "do you think its wrong wishing for the deat of a nation".
Its still not about feels. Its not like Im asking "do you feel sorry for all the dead children?" even though that's certainly a legitimate and relevant question to ask in a thread about a war.
I'm asking from the rational perspective of nationhood and peoples and their right to exist and specifically in relation to various oligarchial cliques and their moneymaking schemes.

Nobody is “wishing for the death of a nation”, they are simply pointing out reality. Ukraine has lost a lot of territory and will probably never get it back. That’s just the situation, get over it. Ukraine is so in debt to NATO/USA now they’ll never be a real country again, anyway.

There’s no emotion to it, and nobody outside of Ukraine really cares anyway. Ukraine is smaller, Real Russia has some new grain fields, and a bunch of Russian-speaking people are allowed to use their language again. Whoop tee doo.

 

[AgendaPoster]

You're really going to keep spinning on this semantics nonsense?

It's not nonsense, it's how you debate a losing position that you cannot argument for, you refuse to answer or elaborate on anything the opposition is saying, and instead go on wild tangential whataboutisms about other evils.
It's a "they did evil shit why can't we reeeeeeeee" 3 yrs old behaviors and it's not possible to discuss with said 3 yrs olds.

 

[TrulyMan]

Right now I'm wishing for the death of you...

That's okay, I know it's easier to shitpost nonsense and 3 week old war clips about a war than discuss the deeper points of it. But a reason why I'm here is to be able to do that, while still having the freedom to call someone a retard once in a while. I.e. how the internet used to be. You'll just have to bare with me as I sadly have to bare with you.

You literally want to redefine what the meaning of a word is in English when arguing with someone who's occupation is literally defining what words mean in contracts, regulations and civil/criminal codes. This is not going to go your way fyi.

And again, I'll rephrase myself and ask you:

Don't you think its wrong to wish for the death of a nation?

And then the rest of that post of mine. Including the parts about oligarchs and their interconnected but sometimes conflicting interests.

Are you now able to face the music when it's not about your feelings but your thoughts? Or is that too much of a clusterfuck inside of you as well?

edit: So now you're retroactively negrating my posts after not having done so up to this point with literally the "Mad at the internet" rating. It's like reddit in here. Surely you're not the one that's mad and will then be able to give a rational "not feels based" answer to this question after you're done.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

And again, I'll rephrase myself and ask you:

Don't you think its wrong to wish for the death of a nation?

This question has been asked and answered. Stop repeating yourself.

Now, let me ask a few of my own; Are you a holhol? If yes, why are you here instead of fighting for your nation; if not, why does this matter so much to you? Do you believe a nation should have a foreign policy that makes everyone feel good, or one that protects its borders, its peoples and its interests?

 

[Bad Gateway 502]

And again, I'll rephrase myself and ask you:

Don't you think its wrong to wish for the death of a nation?

You can wish you can pray you can sperg all day. in the end its all gay wouldn't you say?
Stop shitting up the thread I wish you would Neck yourself with a tire burning in a dumpster.
do you think that is wrong?

Ukraine could have existed if it didn't act like slavic niggers. that time has passed.

 

[TrulyMan]

This question has been asked and answered. Stop repeating yourself.

Now, let me ask a few of my own; Are you a holhol? If yes, why are you here instead of fighting for your nation; if not, why does this matter so much to you? Do you believe a nation should have a foreign policy that makes everyone feel good, or one that protects its borders, its peoples and its interests?

You really can't answer it? I mean obviously it hasn't been answered, we just agreed to that since I hadn't asked it before. I asked about your "feels" didn't I?

I'm a sock and I'm a holhol now. What else horrible things? Maybe a tranny or a jew? Are you that confused and weak that you can't open up for some introspective thought and analysis over what might be a conflicting point in your line of thought that you just resort to ad hominem? And don't get me wrong, if you could point out how I am this great Ukranian shill that'd be fine to insult me over. But you haven't really. It's just empty.

You hate the oligarchs, you hate that they are using americans and american money to fund themselves by forcing you to fund Ukraine. And just to snub them on the nose you're wishing for the death of a nation and an end to its peoples existence, constantly insulting them. It's like you need them to be considered subhuman or unworthy of existence for you to be able to brush aside them so that at last those oligarchs in America can take a loss.

If you only could see how pathetic that is. How you're being played by the very same people you hate.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

end to its peoples existence, constantly insulting them. It's like you need them to be considered subhuman or unworthy of existence for you to be able to brush aside them so that at last those oligarchs in America can take a loss.

Lmao. So now being against this dumbass war is being pro Ukrainian genocide. Some big ole faggot crocodile tears right there.

 

[TrulyMan]

Lmao. So now being against this dumbass war is being pro Ukrainian genocide. Some big ole faggot crocodile tears right there.

She isn't simply against the war, she is for Ukraine to not exist and on the specific basis that this fucks with her oligarchs back at home. That's the whole opening line, lurk moar faggot. Where the fuck do you all come from anyway. People I've never seen posting here are suddenly popping up like worms out of the ground just because it started to rain a little on their parade?

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

She isn't simply against the war, she is for Ukraine to not exist and on the specific basis that this fucks with her oligarchs back at home. That's the whole opening line, lurk moar faggot. Where the fuck do you all come from anyway. People I've never seen posting here are suddenly popping up like worms out of the ground just because it started to rain a little on their parade?

Not caring about the fate of the nation of Ukraine =/= wanting all Ukrainian people to be eliminated from existence. Shit, most of them will just run off to other countries for gibs anyways, so the Ukrainian people will live on.

Also been posting here longer than you have, nigger.