Douglas Mortimer
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I wonder if Ralph gave him something. Shaggy's dedication is near peak gator levels these days
Defendant: Ethan Oliver Ralph - Ethan Ralph's Documented Legal Troubles & Other Court Docs
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Tiger Jack
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Lol.
Lmao.
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Apparently only 3 people have access to the court documents. They aren’t public. If Faith or Vickers didn’t give him the copy, he would have to FOIA request. Vickers checked, he’s the only one that requested so Ethan had to have given the documents to Faggy. That’s my understanding. Idk.
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I'm arguing that it's probably not a violation for Ralph to send a copy of his own public court filing to anyone. If Ralph sent you a copy of the public restraining order itself would that be a violation of that restraining order? I am not a lawyer and could be wrong.
Of course if he included "here post this on the internet for me" that could maybe be a violation but the only thing that can be proven at this point is that a public court filing was sent to a third party. If he had sent it to anyone on KF with no other comment it would get posted immediately. What's the difference?
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I’d think it would be obvious why he gave it to him and he’s not allowed to directly or indirectly (thru a messenger) mess with the Vickers. But honestly I hope the Rage Hog argues that. Judges love nothing more than their intelligence to be insulted.
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He's FOIA'ed shit before, so that's my belief.
The (one way) DVRO states that Ethan Ralph cannot harass Faith Vickers directly or through a proxy such as EsoFaggy.
If my understanding is correct, this means either one of the two:
- Ethan Ralph gave him the court documents and therefore explicitly violated the DVRO, if his drunk tweet about dumbass vax didn't already.
- EsoFaggy FOIA'ed the document and now the Vickers have seen his dox.
Neither scenarios are a W. I look forward to his thread.
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This is already a public document prepared by his attorney, not sensitive privileged info. The burdon of proof is on the accuser to demonstrate Ralph's intent. Ralph's defense to could easily be "I was letting my lawyer speak for me by sending the document he filed publicly with the court." Now you get to prove otherwise. Of all the things they seem to have Ralph on cold this ain't it.
Vickers could certainly make that argument and it might work. Or it could backfire.
Prove his intent was to harass Faith Vickers. That's all I'm saying. If he sent that public document to you with no other comment would that be harassing Faith Vickers? My gut says no but I'm just a Farmer.
And fuck everyone for making me defend Ethan Ralph. This is just an interesting though experiment.
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Sure, if I didn't publicly taunt them, I guess? EsoFaggy did the opposite. I think he FOIA'ed the documents and Vickers now has his dox. There's no way Ethan Ralph would be stupid enough to send those files, though I've been proven wrong before. Never bet on him not being a fucking retard.
I'd assume at least 75% of the violations Vicky's going to file are bogus anyway, but some will stick.
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I wasn't saying that to be involved in your gay little argument so, no.
I said it because of how much Shaggy sucks on the gunt and it was kinda suspicious that he and Meigh's account Tweet'd almost identical wording about this.
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Vickers stated on his Twitter that he FOIA'd the list of people who FOIA'd the document. His name was the only one, thus proving Ralph must have given Eso the doc.
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What a fucking retard.
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I'm also curious how
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I'm unsure of the timeline but I believe it's been at least a month since Eso tweeted the contempt order. Also, you can relax, I'm not Vickers. If I were I've have made it a point to tell everyone repeatedly and without solicitation on this site when discussing any perceived genius legal strategies.
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The chances of Vickers being declared a vexatious litigant are effectively nil. Even people who file dozens of totally baseless lawsuits can go a long time without that happening to them. And Vickers is represented by counsel (who have professional obligations not to engage in frivolous legal actions) and half of it is technically being brought by his daughter.
He's 100% in the clear on that.
The problem is that judges have this thing called "discretion". They can plainly see that Vickers is engaged in the grown-up legal version of a kid on the playground going "Stop hitting yourself!" and then running to the teacher when the other kid punches back. His strategy's success depends on the judge seeing a normal family's life being disrupted by a drink and drug addled lunatic with a legion of similarly deranged fans online engaging a years-long effort to harass them.
This may actually have seen a great deal of success if he shut the fuck up, but it's ruined by his Bond villain routine on Twitter and the deep-dive streams into every legal document.
Vickers can talk about how he did the magic ritual where he FOIA'ed everything first. The reality is any judge looking at what's going on will see that there is one party with a massive advantage in financial and intellectual resources using the legal system as a cudgel against someone he wants to destroy. What this means is that where (as in this case) there is a potential violation where a judge could potentially drop the hammer, they won't. Ralph will get stern talkings to in cases where he otherwise might be slapped with contempt or risk the custody agreement being torn up.
Agreed. Believe me, I'd find it hilarious for Ralph to get smacked down in court for the Eso watermarked documents. But he hasn't proved intent and as far as I'm aware, Ralph is not subject to a total gag order in relation to the case.
Areas where intent has to be ascertained is one of the parts of this where Vickers will get dinged on the whole "judicial discretion" thing.
"He shouldn't be able to do it but I should!"
Good luck with that.
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I am pissed off That PitViperSalesMan I mean Gout made me root for Ethan Ralph. I can't stand Vickers never could. The only reason his daughter is such a BPD Fuck up is because Imagine having this fat sheckle changing faggot as a dad? its amazing faith hasn't killed herself.
LaurenLauren
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The whole restraining order debacle is retarded. If Vickers family were so afraid of Ralph they would not engage in activities like producing multiple podstasts about how vile Ralph is. The restraining order is just a shield from behind which the Gautlord harasses Ralph.
Also, could any one figure out what is the point of constant harassment of Ralph by Matthew Niggers? Ralph clearly does not intend to be involved with Xander's life. He is not a physical threat to the Niggers family, as he lives in fucking Mexico. There is no monetary value that could be extracted form Ethan.
The only reason I see at this point is some sexual obsession. If Matthew Niggers fucks Ethatn to the ground in the court, that somehow will unfuck Faith, and by extension Matthew Niggers. It seems that Matthew thinks that, by fingering Faith's anus, Ethat also fingered his, hence to defend his honor he has to harass Ethan to jail/suicide. Bizarre.
Also, could any one figure out what is the point of constant harassment of Ralph by Matthew Niggers? Ralph clearly does not intend to be involved with Xander's life. He is not a physical threat to the Niggers family, as he lives in fucking Mexico. There is no monetary value that could be extracted form Ethan.
The only reason I see at this point is some sexual obsession. If Matthew Niggers fucks Ethatn to the ground in the court, that somehow will unfuck Faith, and by extension Matthew Niggers. It seems that Matthew thinks that, by fingering Faith's anus, Ethat also fingered his, hence to defend his honor he has to harass Ethan to jail/suicide. Bizarre.
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Ralph never gets his comeuppance so there's a 99.9% chance that nothing will come if it but if he inadvertently gets fucked by his most fervent, dedicated janny that would just be extremely on-brand.
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Can I just say how Mad at the Internet it makes me to see people who’ve attached themselves to the Gunt like barnacles calling other people fat as an insult without the slightest hint of irony? Ralph’s body looks like a Mr Potatohead held over an open flame.