Hogwarts Legacy - Harry Potter open world RPG (no trannies allowed)

verymuchawful said:
The transgender representation in the game is literally just an unflattering looking person with a man voice. Troons won.
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At the least it's realistic.

Also while it is possible to change your body with polyjuice potion (see the Deathly Hollows when Fleur turned herself into Harry) you would have to drink it constantly to keep that apperance..Huh. Now that I think about it that is quiet realistic too isn't it?
 
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verymuchawful said:
The transgender representation in the game is literally just an unflattering looking person with a man voice. Troons won.
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Yep like it was too easy of shot to call on trans question
 
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CoolFool said:
In a magical universe where you can drink a potion that turns you into someone else, why would troons even need to exist? You could just literally just turn into a true woman. That's what makes this troon with the man voice so funny and stupid, we're expected to believe that you can change your biology with a flick of a wrist or a special potion, yet for some reason here we have a troon that can't pass.

On the other hand, maybe the game designers are a bunch of covert TERFs and this is there idea of a funny joke. "Okay, you want trans representation? Here you go!"
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There's no spell powerful enough in all of Hogwarts to make a troon pass properly. Also, having a "true woman" in the character's place would be considered trans erasure or some such bullshit lol.

I will just pretend the character is an older post-menopausal woman who smoked 3 packs a day for 40 years or something.
 
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CoolFool said:
In a magical universe where you can drink a potion that turns you into someone else, why would troons even need to exist? You could just literally just turn into a true woman.
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They're autogynephiles, bigot! Men who get off on larping as women, ok? They're heckin valid too.
 
The barkeep is probably one of the only realistic trans characters in gaming right now. Everyone else draws a little girl or a typical attractive woman and writes the story after.
 
On the note about separating the art from the artist…



Hogwarts Legacy does not deserve to be reviewed on its own merits​

Whether or not we want to admit it, it is impossible to talk positively about Hogwarts Legacy without harming a community of human beings.
6 Feb 2023
Percy Ranson
Hogwarts Legacy review

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To judge a creation purely on its own merits is often lauded as a fair and positive method of review. Why should a bad game be praised, just because it comes from a normally brilliant creator? Why should a good one be vilified, just because the mind that inspired it is ignorant and hateful?
If something is good, we should be able to enjoy and endorse it, even if we acknowledge the faults of its progenitor. Perhaps even moreso when that creation takes steps to distance itself from those now-tainted roots, and offers support to the people who were wronged. An objective stance would be only fair, don’t you think?
I bet it would feel nice to be ‘fair’. To judge Hogwarts Legacy by its merits alone. To look at the strides the developers have made to offer inclusivity, and distance themselves from hatred. To acknowledge that they aren’t to blame, and to just enjoy a franchise that once held such important meaning to me. It would be easier to be fair, believe me. To turn away from the discourse, ignore context and consequence and just explore something I used to love. What a privilege – to spend a few dollars and play a game in one of the formative worlds of my childhood, choosing not to think about where that money goes.
I want to make it clear to you right now that as a transgender individual, I have no interest in that kind of ‘fairness’ or objectivity when it comes to Hogwarts Legacy.
I feel a moral imperative to oppose Hogwarts Legacy.
Hogwarts Legacy cannot and should not be judged solely on its own merits, because the end result of supporting this game financially and socially isn’t simply a matter of how much you’ll enjoy it, or how nostalgic it might be to experience the world of Harry Potter.
If you purchase this game – if you praise its qualities and encourage others to ‘support the developers’ or ‘treat yourself to a guilty pleasure’ – you are making a choice that will harm the transgender community, whether you want to admit it or not.
This statement might seem like quite a stretch at first glance, but for the sake of clarity, let’s break it down. If you buy Hogwarts Legacy, you are doing three significant things;
  • You’re directly supporting the royalty checks J. K. Rowling will receive for use of the Harry Potter intellectual property (IP).
  • You’re financially signaling to the wider market that the Harry Potter IP is a profitable space, likely worth investing in with future titles. The more profitable the IP, the more money Rowling makes.
  • You’re socially engaging with the IP and potentially broadening its audience, encouraging others to engage with it as well. This inevitably leads to more people being exposed to Rowling’s hateful beliefs, and potentially adopting it themselves.
GamesHub has already detailed a small sample of the extensive transphobic rhetoric that Rowling spreads to her audience, as well as the comfort and support she draws from the royalties accrued by the use of the Harry Potter IP. It is a fact that she leverages her wealth and platform to support transphobic legislation, and that hate groups use her name to muster support for openly transphobic movements. I don’t need to prove that she’s a ‘trans-exclusionary radical feminist’ – she has openly identified with the label.
Buying Hogwarts Legacy gives Rowling financial support, and risks broadening her audience. These actions are both harmful towards the transgender community. Economic influence is very real, and growing ever more overt in the video game industry. Think of how many microtransactions we’re seeing stuffed into games with no need for them. How many companies attempted to make NFTs, only thwarted by massive outcry and financial refusal from consumers.
The money you spend has an impact. Your actions have consequences. You buy Hogwarts Legacy, you provide support that harms the transgender community.
I did play the review copy of Hogwarts Legacy I received. What I found was a competently-made, semi-open world action RPG with a fairly linear storyline, basic character progression with very limited build expression or variety, and a combat model that was absolutely functional, but ultimately felt one-note and grew swiftly repetitive.
I experienced no major bugs, but nor did I find much to make it stand out in the plethora of action RPGs available. If you choose not to buy Hogwarts Legacy, you won’t be missing out on any huge gameplay innovations, or a new paragon of the action-RPG genre. It’s very clear while playing that the Harry Potter IP is the star of the show, and every gameplay decision has been made to facilitate and showcase the IP to its fullest.
I remember when the Harry Potter fandom was a sanctuary for LGBT+ kids who felt isolated, like outsiders. There was a beautiful idea I read once about the stairs of Hogwarts, specifically the girl’s dormitory stairs that would allow girls to climb up but not boys, and vice versa. A closeted trans girl, lonely and desperately craving validation, would attempt to enter her assigned (dreaded) dorm, only for the stairs to deny her because the stairs knew that her gender wasn’t what the world said it was. Magic, pure and objective without bias or prejudice, knew their identity just as the child did themselves. The gendered staircase concept has a lot of problematic elements that could be unpacked (the binary nature, etc.) but magic as a force of validation? Beautiful.
Of course, that’s not the truth of the Harry Potter IP. Rowling has made it very clear that a trans girl would find no validation in her world. No love or support. The more I played Hogwarts Legacy, and the longer I spent in the classrooms and grounds of Hogwarts, the sadder I felt at how tainted the franchise has become. That sanctuary is gone – it no longer exists for us.
Does buying Hogwarts Legacy make you a transphobe? Is one bad action enough to make you a bad person? After all, one bucket of sand doesn’t make a beach, and one tree doesn’t make a forest.
But if you buy this game, you’re making a choice. You’re choosing to support J. K. Rowling, even if just in a small way. And if you knowingly weigh the costs and decide that your personal enjoyment of a video game is worth supporting a trans-exclusionary radical feminist, that indulging your nostalgia is more valuable than supporting the transgender community?
…well, one tree might not make a forest, but it sure is more than none.
Trans Rights are Human Rights.
The PS5 version of Hogwarts Legacy was provided for the purposes of this article.

Percy Ranson​

Percy Ranson is a non-binary writer based in Melbourne. They have no choice but to critically analyse their favourite media, due to years of gaming, theatre, and Creative Art studies. They can be found on Twitter at @Manarethan
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Puff said:
Mod it out, much like the black people in 1800's England. It is just a masculine voice... Also wouldn't magical trannies actually be able to transition properly? And not have a dude-voice? So many questions.
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If you can't tell he's a tranny then how can he represent? They should have just picked a random female NPC and said "Yeah. She's trans". It would make more sense in a world where magic exists.

Also it's kind of creepy to see two teen boys in a dingy room with a middle aged troon. Nothing untoward could possibly happen if this was irl right?
 
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I find it amusing that even if they put in some representation to appease the troon demographic, they will still try to shut down anything unless you completely kowtow to them.
 
@Crescent Fresh I can't reply to your archive post so sorry for the ping.

I am reading the article and I swear to God, it's like I am reading scenes from Atlas Shrugged where the weak and useless perpetual "victims" screech at the people who can actually produce things in society simply because the perpetual victims are perpetually useless.
 
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Bunny Tracks said:
I can't find a picture of them yet, but I just say people judging whether, or not a Harry Potter character is trans just based on their voice is really funny.
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Trannies always do that, they always try claiming a character they like or is popular is trans over some evidence that only makes sense to them.

"They're trans because... They just are ok!"
 
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Bukke Bruse said:
Only the reviews are out and whining articles are slowly coming out

https://www.gameshub.com/news/opini...serve-to-be-reviewed-on-its-own-merits-40246/

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There are SO many things in this world where you can actually prove that consuming it harms others and nobody of these clowns cares and writes articles about it, but a video game that is based on the IP of someone who you maybe disagree with is SO HARMFUL that nobody should enjoy it. "Here is some mental gymnastics how it's all connected, just trust me bro."

At this point I really do wish that JKR is powerful enough to end all troons.
 
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