Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

The Kremlin is scouring the Internet for any content related to calling Vladimir Putin a sickly, bald midget. It really hurts his feelings when people say mean things about him. We really need to be more sensitive to the feelings of bald midgets everywhere.

Russian censors scour the internet for claims Putin is a 'bald dwarf' or seriously ill, leaked documents show

Russia's federal media watchdog has a special team tasked with hunting down insults about the president, a report says.

news.yahoo.com

 

[870EVO]

I don't have much bad things to say about Bush Sr, he is responsible for the surplus by the end of the decade because he did the unthinkable and raised taxes, Bill Clinton merely shifted the brackets for a more optimal inflow. The amount of high level stuff going on in 88-92 is pretty crazy and I doubt any of the 21st century Presidents could have come close to handling the USSR dissolution as well as Bush Sr.

Bush Sr was former CIA Director. So he along with Kissinger was pretty much the brains of the administrative state going back to the 70's. So I'd say he's an accurate counterpart to Putin (former KGB)

 

[Meh123]

> doesn't speak English
> never been to America
> makes below average salary by Russian standards
> considers himself an expert on geopolitics and finances
> non-stop sneeding

Did I miss anything?

For some news, Ukrainians are fleeing Bakhmut in a very comedic manner, it's like a clown car full of hohols.
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Looks like my bachelor party without the shelling & shieeet...
But good for them, they passed their 4h life expectancy & getting out of the meat grinder. I wish every holhol would take that option, and realize the only way out of this shit is some lead through Z-man's cranium, and trusting Putin's temperance...

There cannot be WW3 over a rocket lmao.
Turkey shot down a Russia SU w/e plane and it was a nothingburger. A missile that crosses airspace by mistake is irrelevant. Even if it drops and kills a few citizens, and it's obvious it comes from Russia, nothingburger still.
To trigger Art 5 a clear, organized attack should be obvious. Zelensky also knows this very well.
He only says these things to increase the amount of gibs. He knows that he won't be able to drag NATO in an open war with Russia.
Let's try to be reasonable at least around WW3, maybe.

Remember, Russia didn't want war with Turkey. (I know, strange, but Big Bad Russia is still levelheaded..)
The US and NATO seeks prolonged conflict, so all they need is a Casus Beli
Not real reasons, justification. But I seriously hope you're right this time, and the psychos in washington still think a nuclear exchange would be to their disadvantage..

 

[Fait Accompli]

Here are two images with recent casualty figures for both sides-one is purported to be from Israeli intelligence and the other from Mediazona who work closely with the BBC:

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Verifiable figures will have to wait until this is over, but very revealing both show Ukraine doesn't have/take many POWs.



Ukraine is losing, not gaining ground, and they believe the AFU will suddenly traverse all of Donbass, which is now Russia, to retake Crimea? Too early in the AM for comedy.

I mean, people have noticed everything is falling apart before their eyes at home while the US and UK are sending trillions to Ukraine. It's not sustainable, and they know it. That's why these are "talks".

Regarding these recent figures, its a hoax

And with a tiny bit of critical thinking, its incredibly ridicolous. Like come on, documented and geolocated losses for russia can support 2-3x of the number they are showing. And as not all losses are shown, this can be seen as a minimum.

And for some of these categories, as far as im aware there are no documented sources to support even a fifth of these losses for Ukraine. If there is, id love for a link to this documentation
And regarding the casualty numbers, considering the situation the Russians would have to be blessed by a literal Orthodox god to get these numbers.


Believing this is more retarded than believing in " Ghost of Kyiv ", times ten

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

trusting Putin's temperance...

In most of captured towns (Butcha, Izium, Kherson, Maryupol) ruzzkies conducted mass rapes, genocide and force expulsion of people. No one sane will trust ruzzkie monkeys in anything, especialy will not surrender them.

Amerifats: just get that ruzzkie is a natural liar and criminal type. Degenerated "nation" without any culture or moral basis, grown without any faith (and no, ruzzkie orthodox church isn't and never was a real religion - it has ZERO moral teaching).

No deals can be made with ruzzkie, mostly because ruzzkie will never understood what means pacta sunt servanda.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Not real reasons, justification. But I seriously hope you're right this time, and the psychos in washington still think a nuclear exchange would be to their disadvantage..

If they wanted war we would have war already. Invading Ukraine would have been more than enough. If they wanted war Ukraine would have long range missiles, like I suggested a lot of times. And planes. If they wanted war they'd have done an no fly zone over Ukraine, with the public aim to protect the civilian population. The moment that Russians started hits on cities and civilians started to die, a no fly zone would've happened.
None of that occurred, because the US are both cowardly, and averse to the risk of nuclear war, or even regular war with Russia. You need to keep in mind that a direct military confrontation between Russia and US inside Ukraine does not mean WW3 or nukes, not at all. Both sides would be very reluctant to launch, and would likely do so only if they would perceive a severe threat to their territories, regime and integrity.
In conclusion, it's quite obvious neither side wants nuclear war, nor to escalate to it.
Russia want Ukraine subdued and made into a puppet state or just fully annexed, and US wants to weaken Russia as much as possible, without sacrificing any NATO soldiers and with the least military help. Which is kind of a stupid strategy, as the slow help is barely allowing Ukraine to resist at an insane human cost, so if the US doesn't change course soon, Ukraine won't last too long. So now US has to make a cynical calculation about the level of support and its duration, and to also estimate if it benefits more from allowing Russia to get what it wants, but making it lose thousands of men and gear, or to continue supplying Ukraine and further destabilize the planet.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

The biggest surprise from the article isn't that the Burgers blew up the pipelines, everyone knew they blew up the pipelines. No the shocker is that the Burgers were planning for and had a team in place BEFORE the Russians invaded Ukraine. We can only conclude that they were going to do this whatever.

This is an act of war by the US and Norway against Russia and Germany. I wonder who leaked it and why now?

Germany is seeing the price tag of this fuckery and say hell no together with sweden and Denmark. Btw for those who are unaware the Swedish economic numbers are coming abysmal . Like Christmas shopping season falls flat level

Swedish Economy Unexpectedly Shrinks in Fourth Quarter

Sweden’s economy unexpectedly contracted in the fourth quarter as weaker purchasing power erodes consumer spending in the biggest Nordic economy.

www.bloomberg.com

Swedish economy unexpectedly shrinks.

Just to say it's not unexpected the electricity prices has been insane for Sweden for a while . I am fully expecting if this keeps up no matter how much the winter was mild ( as in you don't need wollen underwear) it is still fucking cold in Stockholm and most of Scandinavia Sweden to lose most of it eastern European population who actually runs the real economy as in production of goods and services that people want plus whatever has been leftover from their game developers/ code monkeys in there. Btw after covid nonsense and trying to force literal poison to the immigrant population i expect their economies to bleed cash as immigrant families who have saved up cash plus build up a house in their homeland to come back and never return after seeing they don't need loicence to take a shit .

Its so bad that German political party : German call for English to be second official language amid labour shortage
Politician from governing FDP says skilled foreign workers are being put off by unwieldy bureaucratic German.

German call for English to be second official language amid labour shortage

Politician from governing FDP says skilled foreign workers are being put off by unwieldy bureaucratic German

www.theguardian.com

One of the ways the elites in Europe getting richer is basically renting out and owning property you can't demand 1500 euros per month for 50 years old three bedroom apartment if you don't have workers to rent to . Retirees can fuck off in the Southern part of Europe. Workers can't.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Looks like my bachelor party without the shelling & shieeet...
But good for them, they passed their 4h life expectancy & getting out of the meat grinder. I wish every holhol would take that option, and realize the only way out of this shit is some lead through Z-man's cranium, and trusting Putin's temperance...



Remember, Russia didn't want war with Turkey. (I know, strange, but Big Bad Russia is still levelheaded..)
The US and NATO seeks prolonged conflict, so all they need is a Casus Beli
Not real reasons, justification. But I seriously hope you're right this time, and the psychos in washington still think a nuclear exchange would be to their disadvantage..

OK, so then which of the conflicting vatnigger claims going around the Internet is correct: NATO wants a prolonged war, or the United States offered Russia 20% of Ukraine to end the conflict?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Except I’m Willi g to bet there’s going to be support FOR the draft. And the right wing will be protesting like a bizarro version of the 1960s.

I expect every lib and Nato lover to sign up then. I may go down but they're coming with me.

Regarding these recent figures, its a hoax

Well the BBC disagrees, so you're saying they perpetuate hoaxes now? Good to know.

If you actually bothered to read my post you can see I said true casualty numbers won't be known until after this conflict is over, but both sides self report their POW numbers, so you either believe them, or you don't, but it's not a "hoax".

You also seem to cherry pick OSINT info, selectively touting that which conforms your bias and dismissing that which does not as a hoax. Don't be disingenuous.

None of that occurred, because the US are both cowardly, and averse to the risk of nuclear war, or even regular war with Russia. You need to keep in mind that a direct military confrontation between Russia and US inside Ukraine does not mean WW3 or nukes, not at all.

But actually it does Romani bro. Russia and the US would be able to deal but not yuros, which makes me wonder how much of that Chernobyl radiation irradiated and shrunk y'all niggers brains.

 

[Fait Accompli]

If you actually bothered to read my post you can see I said true casualty numbers won't be known until after this conflict is over, but both sides self report their POW numbers, so you either believe them, or you don't, but it's not a "hoax".

You also seem to cherry pick OSINT info, selectively touting that which conforms your bias and dismissing that which does not as a hoax. Don't be disingenuous.

Not cherry picking, just refering to the best ( or least worst ) documented source of material losses. If u could provide me of a similar source with geolocated, open source documented losses that shows the absolute opposite, i could change my mind.

Yes, of course. But even posting it and relativizing it is stupid, its obviously 100% fake. I mean, you're good at debating and picking out info. You're partial to pro-russian sources, just as i am pro-Ukrainian. But refering to a source this extreme, exaggerated and biased is just incredibly stupid.

" Dont be disingenuous "
Jesus christ, do u have any self perspective? You if anyone cherry picks OSINT info, dont pretend that you arent.

Btw, could u provide a link to the BBC source on this? I bet its just them reporting on a rumour or russian source claiming this stuff. Just as they do with extraordinary pro-Ukrainian claims, just because it comes from the BBC doesnt mean its 100% true and legitimate, they could just as well be reporting on UFOs invading earth citing an " anonymous source from within the military "

 

[Wood]

Not cherry picking, just refering to the best ( or least worst ) documented source of material losses. If u could provide me of a similar source with geolocated, open source documented losses that shows the absolute opposite, i could change my mind.

Yes, of course. But even posting it and relativizing it is stupid, its obviously 100% fake. I mean, you're good at debating and picking out info. You're partial to pro-russian sources, just as i am pro-Ukrainian. But refering to a source this extreme, exaggerated and biased is just incredibly stupid.

" Dont be disingenuous "
Jesus christ, do u have any self perspective? You if anyone cherry picks OSINT info, dont pretend that you arent.

Btw, could u provide a link to the BBC source on this? I bet its just them reporting on a rumour or russian source claiming this stuff. Just as they do with extraordinary pro-Ukrainian claims, just because it comes from the BBC doesnt mean its 100% true and legitimate, they could just as well be reporting on UFOs invading earth citing an " anonymous source from within the military "

There is no OSINT, retard, it's all glowniggers, all the way down.

 

[Fait Accompli]

There is no OSINT, retard, it's all glowniggers, all the way down.

Go program your ancient OS and call people niggers on the phone instead, ghost Terry

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Not cherry picking, just refering to the best ( or least worst ) documented source of material losses. If u could provide me of a similar source with geolocated, open source documented losses that shows the absolute opposite, i could change my mind.

Yes, of course. But even posting it and relativizing it is stupid, its obviously 100% fake. I mean, you're good at debating and picking out info. You're partial to pro-russian sources, just as i am pro-Ukrainian. But refering to a source this extreme, exaggerated and biased is just incredibly stupid.

" Dont be disingenuous "
Jesus christ, do u have any self perspective? You if anyone cherry picks OSINT info, dont pretend that you arent.

Mediazona publishes their sources and methods on their site and the BBC cites their sources. They aren't "pro-Russian", not by a long shot. If you don't like their numbers, fine, but it's Western propaganda, if anything.

Btw, could u provide a link to the BBC source on this? I bet its just them reporting on a rumour or russian source claiming this stuff. Just as they do with extraordinary pro-Ukrainian claims, just because it comes from the BBC doesnt mean its 100% true and legitimate, they could just as well be reporting on UFOs invading earth citing an " anonymous source from within the military "

Here you go.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Mediazona publishes their sources and methods on their site and the BBC cites their sources. They aren't "pro-Russian", not by a long shot. If you don't like their numbers, fine, but it's Western propaganda, if anything.



Here you go.

Alright, you couldnt give good open source documentation for losses other than Oryx, got it

Interesting point, western propaganda to prop up more support for Ukraine due to enormous losses, but the losses are way too skewed to be convincing. Either its just neutral retardation, but i've seen alot of pro-russians using it as a reference


Moving on to another topic, any credible estimates on active forces on either side at the front line? Due to Ukrainian total mobilization from the beggining of the war ive seen the number 700k be thrown around alot. A piece of this number consists of forces against the inactive Belarus border, TDF and MP forces in oblasts not subjected to fighting. My guess is 300-400k along the active front for Ukraine, probably the same for Russia due to mobilizaton and Wagner.

I dont think that Ukraine has suffered such losses that they have to arrest people on the streets, they already issued a total mobilization last year. Ukraine doesnt have the equipment nor the training areas to quickly put in mobilized into the army, thats why their mobilized are getting trained for months in European countries.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

couldnt give good open source documentation for losses other than Oryx

lmao, I bet you think Bellingcat is a good source too

Moving on to another topic, any credible estimates

@Wood explained it to you in the most succinct manner possible; why can't you search and read the information out there and come to your own conclusion? Makes me think the Founders were right to mandate a limits on voters.

 

[Fait Accompli]

lmao, I bet you think Bellingcat is a good source too

@Wood explained it to you in the most succinct manner possible; why can't you search and read the information out there and come to your own conclusion? Makes me think the Founders were right to mandate a limits on voters.

As its an active large scale war in a digital age with tons of misinformation and propaganda, i dont think there are any good sources. But you can still look for the most credible source amongst the bullshit
Geolocated and photographed sources with an open source function is the least worst source in this era, thats why i prefer it. And if anyone could provide me with a better alternative, im all ears

I have my own conclusion? But as its a chaotic era of information, i prefer to get other peoples opinion and maybe get information that i havent seen before. Thats how you can be as well informed as possible

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Moving on to another topic, any credible estimates on active forces on either side at the front line? Due to Ukrainian total mobilization from the beggining of the war ive seen the number 700k be thrown around alot. A piece of this number consists of forces against the inactive Belarus border, TDF and MP forces in oblasts not subjected to fighting. My guess is 300-400k along the active front for Ukraine, probably the same for Russia due to mobilizaton and Wagner.

Common figures I see bandied around is nearing on 1 million for Ukraine, most of which are militia or national guardsman type that are static defense groupings, greybeard militias near Sumy are not fighting in Bakhmut, likely 100-200k active duty / conscripts in the fray. Russia on the other hand invaded with something on the order of 175k-250k, this is equal to Ukraine's active force but Russia's active force has militias along the entire front they have to contend with or the Ukrainians will just march into their rear, this has left Russia stretched remarkably thin and unable to bring a large force together in any front to press any offensive. One of the first things Surovikin told Putin was that he was directly responsible for losing the war because the Russian government has erected too much bureaucracy around it and the rules of engagement were obscenely strict, almost immediately we saw him cut off unproductive front lines like Kherson so he could consolidate forces, Kharkov likely collapsed before he could cut that front off as well. Since Surovikin reorganized the lines, properly entrenched and set up logistic lines we've seen Russia have enough men and material to do offensives, BEFORE the conscripts they called up get into combat. We're seeing Ukraine spazzing out about an imminent Russian winter offensive so we'll have to count units and get a range, getting definitive counts is hard because a lot of units send off detachments or aren't at full strength to begin with.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Prigozhin predicts it'll require 1½-2yrs to take the Donbass, 3yrs to reach the Dnieper; but could still make it to the English channel, while giving France, Italy, & Bulgaria to Ukraine.

 

[Fait Accompli]

Prigozhin predicts it'll require 1½-2yrs to take the Donbass, 3yrs to reach the Dnieper; but could still make it to the English channel, while giving France, Italy, & Bulgaria to Ukraine.
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From when is this clip from? If it recent, i'll give it some credibility as the man has been responsible for the largest gains the russians have made in months. But also i read that his force has been decimated and he is having trouble recruting new prisoners and that the regular russian army has now mostly replaced his units in the Donbass. Is he just assmad?

 

[Bartolomeow Kittensberger]

President Putin to Britain: "I am wicked and scary, with claws and teeth."

Can Putin win?

A Russian assault is expected in Donbas, but all will depend on whether Russia has fixed major flaws in logistics and coordination.

www.politico.eu