2023 Ohio train derailment and aftermath - WE REQUIRE MORE PHOSGENE GAS

Yuh-oh! Looks like the residents of East Palestine are misinterpreting their own opinions!

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ETA: "Don't believe your lying eyes", says Gizmodo.

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Gizmodo is still around? I would have thought they went defunct from the gawker hulk Hogan lawsuit.

Articles like this trying to gaslight people into saying it's no big deal makes me think otherwise. The last few years have trained me to immediately believe the opposite from what I read.
 
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How bad do things have to get before people wake up?
Really fucking bad apparently.
I guess so long as the plebs have their bread and circuses, they’ll ignore it.
Well, most have gotten to the point where folks are complaining of the quality of the bread and circuses. Except I guess that the right will only be happy when the country is nothing but MAGA folks going full McVeigh and Kaczynski.
We’ll all probably be actually starving and broke before any actual change happens.
Probably. Except most are going to look for their next meal and shelter rather than going after the suits.
When they do realize they need to act it will be too late.
You mean after Xi Jingping takes over the world and the USA is basically one of his many puppets?
What racism free world does this guy live in? Dothey have transporters from Star Trek? DBZ Instant Transmission?
 
At this point, I believe the only honorable thing for everyone involved in this disaster, from the railway owners who ignored their employees who said cutting safety measures would lead to this kind of a disaster, to the government officials who forcefully put and end to the impending strike aimed at addressing the way railway workers were being overworked, to the media covering all this up, is to kill themselves. That is the only way they are going to make this up to the people who lost their homes and will likely die horrible deaths as a result of what has happened in East Palestine. They are all complicit and killing themselves is the only apology that is sincere enough to address what they've done.
 
Makes me fucking sick that the Democrats act like they're champions of the Environment, defending the EPA and superfund sites from the "evil" Republican Corporations who want to "destroy the Environment", then an ecological nightmare like this transpires with one of their own in charge, and they completely cover it up and do nothing to help, protect, or prevent. Instead they suppress it out of a vague fear that it might make them look bad.

I have some pretty radical views on eco stuff, but I never bought into the Democrats shitty pandering. Ultimately its always self serving, and even their global warming scaremongering is based on the protection of humanity rather than nature. Because frankly, the amount that we can fuck the earth up can kill a lot of nature, but it will kill all of humanity before it kills all of the natural life, thankfully. Maybe then whatever micro-organism that eventually evolves into sentience Billions of years after our extinction can do a better job than we did.
 
Ok I need to quick say this: the media and non-rail working public has a vastly different idea of derailments than what actually happens.

Derailments happen ALL the time. The thing is, the average derailment is literally one wheel or axle set goes off the track and the train stops. In a few hours, a crane comes over, puts the car back on, and what mostly happens is the train gets back to moving if no serious damage is assessed. The Ohio derailment is the type everyone thinks of as a derailment, and they are in fact quite rare.
I'm saying this because I already can tell that now every time a derailment happens, people are going to freak out over what really isn't much. If an Ohio happens its very, very bad. But for most derailments, it barely causes an issue.
But these things happen a lot, either because of issues with the cars, which I can attest have not seen much repair or rebuffing in at least 20 years, managerial incompetence like making the trains too long and not following regulation because longer trains=less trains to move and more money up front, and frankly, accidents do happen, even if you do everything right.
We nearly had to pay a costumer when a rail cars brakes failed after delivery, causing damage, and had video evidence the brakes were set and we followed all the rules.
 
Ok I need to quick say this: the media and non-rail working public has a vastly different idea of derailments than what actually happens.

Derailments happen ALL the time. The thing is, the average derailment is literally one wheel or axle set goes off the track and the train stops. In a few hours, a crane comes over, puts the car back on, and what mostly happens is the train gets back to moving if no serious damage is assessed. The Ohio derailment is the type everyone thinks of as a derailment, and they are in fact quite rare.
I'm saying this because I already can tell that now every time a derailment happens, people are going to freak out over what really isn't much. If an Ohio happens its very, very bad. But for most derailments, it barely causes an issue.
But these things happen a lot, either because of issues with the cars, which I can attest have not seen much repair or rebuffing in at least 20 years, managerial incompetence like making the trains too long and not following regulation because longer trains=less trains to move and more money up front, and frankly, accidents do happen, even if you do everything right.
We nearly had to pay a costumer when a rail cars brakes failed after delivery, causing damage, and had video evidence the brakes were set and we followed all the rules.
Here's the thing though: This isn't just some axle or wheel. This is cars with chemicals hitting the ground and forcing evacuations, killing fauna on a massive scale, and potentially causing the affected zone to be rendered uninhabitable for decades. And residents to have health issues for years if not generations. And with this government, EVERYTHING is assumed as malice toward their enemies. Benefit of the doubt is gone. You could argue that the infrastructure going to shit is a deliberate move only to keep everyone in cities where they can be more easily monitored and treated like cattle and a lot of folks here would agree with that statement.

We have long reached past the point of debating the cause. We are now at the point where everyone looks at something that happens and says "this happened and is getting worse because the people in power see their enemies dying and suffering and won't do shit unless THEIR interests are directly affected, and those responsible need to hang, and it's only a question of who has the balls to do it."

Also, it's been well established that this derailing happened because safety was chucked away for profit after Biden strongarmed the strikers into it, breaking the strike no scabs needed. So it seems that Fallout nooses need to be made for Biden, Pete, the DOT, Norfolk Southern Executives, and NS lobbyists. That or the guillotines. Or the people exercise the second amendment right won't be infringed by bringing the culprits to the firing squad.

Morbid? Yes. But, I think it'll happen sooner or later if a McViegh or Ted doesn't come onto the scene first.
 
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Seems the usual suspects who were all paid by the Railroad lobby are on suicide watch. Both GOP and DNC shills on real thin ice. Crosspost from A&H American Politics thread, JD Vance shows how the local water around East Palestine is contaminated as fuck and challenges the "official narrative" that all is well.
More Vance hammering home the populist message, and now "true conservatives" have to defend their dominatrix donors. If this kills off the old GOPe quicker then we'll be better off.

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Fuck you Gizmodo. If this were a majority-black town that was impacted, your asses would be blasting it all over the front page and demanding justice. But because the community affected is mostly rural whites, pfffff, who the fuck cares, they'll be fine! And this is all Drumpf's fault anyway, so sowwy, icky right-wing bigots!
 
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